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shadowprophet
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17 years, 2 months ago
Here is an interesting bit of news, If you hadn't heard. Nintendo is planning a wii ware service for its downloadable shop channel. Wii ware seems to be a branch of the service that will allow first and third party developers to create brand spanking new content never before seen.

What's the biggest news for wii ware right now?

Square enix Is burning the midnight oil. On a new final fantasy crystal chronicles.



Heres some news I dug up. Enjoy
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For those of us who had our curiosities piqued by Square Enix's announced downloadable Final Fantasy Chronicles title on the Nintendo Wii, Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Young King and the Promised Land, here's something that should get you stocking up on Wii Points. The video game's going to set you back a cool 1500 Wii Points. That's almost US$ 15 for a full-fledged Final Fantasy title. Not that bad of a price tag, eh?

This little bit of news comes directly from this week's edition of that magazine filled with gaming goodness, Famitsu, along with a couple of details concerning FF Crystal Chronicles: The Young King and the Promised Land's time frame in the storyline and characters. It seems that the WiiWare downloadable title takes place after the events of the original Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles game on the Nintendo GameCube - with the player stepping into the shoes of the Young King named Leo.

As the head honcho in Square Enix' newest Final Fantasy game, the player has to rebuild his own country from the ground up, using a power called "The Architect" granted unto him by the crystals.

Of course, using The Architect takes up precious resources, namely elemental skills, and these can be found in monster-infested dungeons. Of course, being a young king and all, Leo can't storm into a dungeon and expect to survive - he'll have to send in warriors and mages to retrieve the elemental skill before him, and it's safe to say that this forms the combat aspect of the game.

Different classes will be featured heavily into the video game, and unlocking them merely requires building the necessary facility to do so (i.e. a magic school for mages).

All in all, Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Young King and the Promised Land sounds like a very solid title to kick off the WiiWare channel. Here's hoping the game's North American version gets here quick, as Japan will be getting their chance to download the game on March of next year.


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    17 years, 2 months ago
    This looks awesome, I'll definitely download it when it comes out. I do have to say, this is a pretty good standard to set for wiiware releases. it definitely brings promise to great possibilities for that feature
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      17 years, 2 months ago
      Nintendo has to do something already which will offer some decent games for the Wii. This certainly is a step in the right direction but still, more needs to be done.

      Wii owners are not getting many quality titles as it stands now although Nintendo obviously thinks quantity over quality is what matters.
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        JCU
        Nintendo has to do something already which will offer some decent games for the Wii. This certainly is a step in the right direction but still, more needs to be done.

        Wii owners are not getting many quality titles as it stands now although Nintendo obviously thinks quantity over quality is what matters.


        Nintendo does have a few quality titles. Metroid prime 3, Zelda TP and super papar mario come to mind.
        I suspect Mario galaxy will be very high quality too.
        But most of my wii collection are sega,capcom and altus titles. The few first party offerings are really good.

        But think about it like this. In the cube days, possibly the N64 days. Nity lost most of their third party support due to poor console sales. If I where nintendo at this moment, I would be more concerned about getting as much third party support as possible too.
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          17 years, 2 months ago
          shadowprophet
          Nintendo does have a few quality titles. Metroid prime 3, Zelda TP and super papar mario come to mind.
          I suspect Mario galaxy will be very high quality too.
          But most of my wii collection are sega,capcom and altus titles. The few first party offerings are really good.

          But think about it like this. In the cube days, possibly the N64 days. Nity lost most of their third party support due to poor console sales. If I where nintendo at this moment, I would be more concerned about getting as much third party support as possible too.


          I agree Nintendo's biggest strength is also it's biggest weakness. That being to make excellent games that are so popular that it takes away sales from the 3rd party games (even though they could just suck it up and make better games). I think that after Brawl that their might not be an explosion of 1st party games like right now. Maybe then more 3rd party titles will come out in droves.
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            17 years, 2 months ago
            I've heard of that Wii Ware, and that its possible to create downloadble type games, seems like indie companies/games are starting to get common on consoles now, i just saw 'echochrome' and that games looks amazing and it barely has any detail or graphics and I just heard of this one guy who created 'everyday shooter' and that game looks amazing as well
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              17 years, 2 months ago
              JCU
              Nintendo has to do something already which will offer some decent games for the Wii. This certainly is a step in the right direction but still, more needs to be done.

              Wii owners are not getting many quality titles as it stands now although Nintendo obviously thinks quantity over quality is what matters.


              360 is the only console that has gotten a real consistent flow of solid titles over the last year, but I chalk that up to Wii and PS3 still being relatively new by comparison.
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                17 years, 2 months ago
                shadowprophet
                But think about it like this. In the cube days, possibly the N64 days. Nity lost most of their third party support due to poor console sales. If I where nintendo at this moment, I would be more concerned about getting as much third party support as possible too.


                The debacle known as the GameCube proved that the big three alone could not sustain the system. The lack of any substantial third party support didn't help either but Nintendo doesn't seem to have learned from past mistakes.

                The few first party titles currently available for the Wii are good but they are in short supply. The vast majority of third party titles are of lower quality yet that doesn't seem to be a concern as long as titles are available. Nintendo better do something to rectify the problem or last months 360 outselling the Wii will start to become much more common.
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                  17 years, 2 months ago
                  JCU
                  The debacle known as the GameCube proved that the big three alone could not sustain the system. The lack of any substantial third party support didn't help either but Nintendo doesn't seem to have learned from past mistakes.

                  The few first party titles currently available for the Wii are good but they are in short supply. The vast majority of third party titles are of lower quality yet that doesn't seem to be a concern as long as titles are available. Nintendo better do something to rectify the problem or last months 360 outselling the Wii will start to become much more common.

                  Halo 3 had a lot to do with that :p
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                    17 years, 2 months ago
                    Halo had alot to do with that but if memory serves me correctly, so many nintendo and sony fans argued that it wouldn't help sales. Guess they were wrong. Besides Halo 3, other factors might have contributed to this surge in sales. One would be that the past 2 months have been great for games on the 360 (Bioshock in Aug, Halo 3 in Sept and The Orange Box in Oct). I think another, less acknowledged, factor is that Wii owners and gamers in general might be getting fed up with the lackluster library for the Wii. The system is out for nearly one year (still no excuse) but even so, it is a substantially less complicated system than the other two so games should be here. Carnival Games will not nourish gamers nor will the developmental games for babies that is now out.
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                      17 years, 2 months ago
                      JCU
                      Halo had alot to do with that but if memory serves me correctly, so many nintendo and sony fans argued that it wouldn't help sales. Guess they were wrong. Besides Halo 3, other factors might have contributed to this surge in sales. One would be that the past 2 months have been great for games on the 360 (Bioshock in Aug, Halo 3 in Sept and The Orange Box in Oct). I think another, less acknowledged, factor is that Wii owners and gamers in general might be getting fed up with the lackluster library for the Wii. The system is out for nearly one year (still no excuse) but even so, it is a substantially less complicated system than the other two so games should be here. Carnival Games will not nourish gamers nor will the developmental games for babies that is now out.


                      Yes its true, A lot of Nintendo's games are geared toward casual gamers. you will tend to see a lot of "party" type games for the wii. as they are aiming toward a demographic that will appeal to everyone not only the hard core gamer, But everyone. Still there are a lot of great titles coming out for the wii that will please a true hard core gamer.


                      Forever Blue (Nintendo)
                      Mario Strikers Charged (Nintendo)
                      ExciteTruck (Nintendo)
                      Dragon Quest Swords (Square Enix)
                      Samurai Warriors Wave (Koei)
                      Fire Emblem (Nintendo)
                      Super Mario Galaxy (Nintendo)
                      Necro-Nesia (Spike)
                      Trauma Center: Second Opinion (Atlus)
                      Wing Island (Hudson)
                      Bleach Wii (SEGA)
                      One Piece Unlimited Adventure (Bandai Namco)
                      Dragon Ball Z Sparking NEO (Bandai Namco)
                      SD Gundam Revolution (Bandai Namco)
                      Crayon Shin-Chan: Saikyou Kazoku Scavenging Ui (Banpresto)
                      Tamagotchi no Pika Pika Daitouryou (Bandai Namco)
                      Elebits (Konami)
                      Rayman Raving Rabbids (Ubisoft)
                      Super Monkey Ball (SEGA)
                      Tsuri Master [Fishing] Hudson
                      Ennichi no Tatsujin (Bandai Namco)
                      Furi Furi (Taito)
                      Harvest Moon Wii (Marvelous)
                      Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Nintendo)
                      Kororinpa (Hudson)
                      Metroid Prime 3: Corruption (Nintendo)
                      Wario Ware: Smooth Moves (Nintendo)
                      Battalion Wars II (Nintendo)
                      Bomberman Land (Hudson)
                      The Dog Island (Yukes)
                      Takoron (Compile)
                      Cooking Mama: Minna to Isshou Oryouri Taikai (Taito)
                      Project H.A.M.M.E.R. (Nintendo)
                      Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles (Capcom)

                      While some of these are already out, A lot or yet to come, And I did cut out all the casual type games, This is a hard core list. I could go on :)
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                        17 years, 2 months ago
                        shadowprophet
                        Yes its true, A lot of Nintendo's games are geared toward casual gamers. you will tend to see a lot of "party" type games for the wii. as they are aiming toward a demographic that will appeal to everyone not only the hard core gamer, But everyone. Still there are a lot of great titles coming out for the wii that will please a true hard core gamer.


                        Forever Blue (Nintendo)
                        Mario Strikers Charged (Nintendo)
                        ExciteTruck (Nintendo)

                        Dragon Quest Swords (Square Enix)
                        Samurai Warriors Wave (Koei)
                        Fire Emblem (Nintendo)
                        Super Mario Galaxy (Nintendo)

                        Necro-Nesia (Spike)
                        Trauma Center: Second Opinion (Atlus)
                        Wing Island (Hudson)
                        Bleach Wii (SEGA)
                        One Piece Unlimited Adventure (Bandai Namco)
                        Dragon Ball Z Sparking NEO (Bandai Namco)
                        SD Gundam Revolution (Bandai Namco)
                        Crayon Shin-Chan: Saikyou Kazoku Scavenging Ui (Banpresto)
                        Tamagotchi no Pika Pika Daitouryou (Bandai Namco)
                        Elebits (Konami)
                        Rayman Raving Rabbids (Ubisoft)
                        Super Monkey Ball (SEGA)
                        Tsuri Master [Fishing] Hudson
                        Ennichi no Tatsujin (Bandai Namco)
                        Furi Furi (Taito)
                        Harvest Moon Wii (Marvelous)
                        Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Nintendo)
                        Kororinpa (Hudson)
                        Metroid Prime 3: Corruption (Nintendo)
                        Wario Ware: Smooth Moves (Nintendo)
                        Battalion Wars II (Nintendo)
                        Bomberman Land (Hudson)
                        The Dog Island (Yukes)
                        Takoron (Compile)
                        Cooking Mama: Minna to Isshou Oryouri Taikai (Taito)
                        Project H.A.M.M.E.R. (Nintendo)
                        Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles (Capcom)

                        While some of these are already out, A lot or yet to come, And I did cut out all the casual type games, This is a hard core list. I could go on :)


                        I high-lighted the ones I think are worth playing. The Wii does have a fair amount of good games imo but JCU is right in that most third party stuff is pure garbage as this list can atest to.

                        Not that it matters to me though. I own all three consoles and all have lots of games I want.
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                          17 years, 2 months ago
                          Oldschoolgamer83
                          I high-lighted the ones I think are worth playing. The Wii does have a fair amount of good games imo but JCU is right in that most third party stuff is pure garbage as this list can atest to.

                          Not that it matters to me though. I own all three consoles and all have lots of games I want.


                          Those are some good games you mentioned. I cant believe you didn't highlight Dragon quest. To each is his own though.

                          Anyway, Yes nintendo is suffering a little. As far as most folks can tell. "In the library department"
                          The best is yet to come though. Check out this more complete list of future releases from Ign

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                            JCU
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                            17 years, 2 months ago
                            The list of future/current Wii games shows me optomism and well, a Wii owner needs to be highly optomistic. As far as I can see, a small portion of the games listed will be large hits or must have games. I'll be very curious to see if Nintendo can stop the 360 now that MS has gained some momentum with its latest releases along with the fact that a few big time titles have already been out for the Wii (TP, MP3, RE4, etc..,) In otherwords, will Galaxy have enough oomph to counter the 360?
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                              17 years, 2 months ago
                              The 360 sales just bumped back up this month after Halo 3 came out. Just like it had a spike after last year when Gears came out then dipped right back down to 200,000 per month and was being consistently outsold by Wii until Halo 3 came out so it'll be interesting to see if this is just a spike of if MS can sustain these sales. More interesting is with Sony releasing a $400 PS3 soon can MS and Nintendo can stay ahead of them? We'll see, I think in 08 Sony is primed to take back the top spot.
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                                17 years, 2 months ago
                                Oldschoolgamer83
                                The 360 sales just bumped back up this month after Halo 3 came out. Just like it had a spike after last year when Gears came out then dipped right back down to 200,000 per month and was being consistently outsold by Wii until Halo 3 came out so it'll be interesting to see if this is just a spike of if MS can sustain these sales. More interesting is with Sony releasing a $400 PS3 soon can MS and Nintendo can stay ahead of them? We'll see, I think in 08 Sony is primed to take back the top spot.


                                There are some things to logically take into account about the 360 and also the ps3.

                                For beginners. Sony suffers as it does. and is struggling with the ps3. I don't suppose anyone could debate that at the moment.
                                But lets chat about the 360. While two of the three largest markets for home consoles really dig the 360. The us and europe. Microsoft Is performing miserably in all other regions. In japan the 360 is almost non existent. In france. They are wii fans. In germany, The wii is on top while the 360 trails far far behind. Ultimately only europe and america have accepted the 360 as a true competitor.

                                Logicly, europe and America are two of the three largest markets for video consoles.But Much like it was with the original. Without world wide acceptance. The 360 will have a hard time securing the top spot world wide. And in honesty. simply will not have the top spot in japan or world wide. As japan views the 360 as in inferior product. as most of the world does outside of america and its brother europe.
                                Even though america and europe are indeed a good 40 % of the entire worlds pull for video games sales. The rest of the world makes up that other 60 %

                                The ps3 is moving slowly, And its not just the games here. Sony has ruined it's image and alienated it's fan base, they have been caught buying anonymous respected bloggers world wide, to spoof their products. "as so great Sony fans" They have been caught lying about units sold. and several analysts have been sued by there respective employers for tampering with sales figures to make sony's products look more desirable to the publics eye.

                                "which is a federal crime. As sales figures directly effect stock quotes"
                                Sony has been caught with his hand in the preverbal cookie jar. And has completely destroyed the trust of its fan base, Can Sony recover from the PR nightmare Its caused upon itself? No one knows for sure. But Sega couldn't manage to recover.

                                In truth., when weighing the true pros and cons of this gens console wars. The wii has won and will stay on top. If for no other reason then Microsoft's lack of popularity over seas. and sony's less the reputable tactics. Its fair to say nintendo may have won own its own merits entirely. As microsoft isn't popular over seas and Sony basically self destructed itself.

                                Still yet nintendo has reaped the benefits of being on top. And has recovered in such a way, they have has such fantastic sales figures since the NES. No not even the super nintendo it's self sold like the wii has been seling. The fact is. Nintendo right now. Is hotter then it was when the Snes ruled the roost. Nintendo is back in prime time. like they Haven't been since their original console.

                                yes I will admit that The wii doesn't have the graphics of the 360. or the raw power of the ps3. But it does have an affordable price point "and lets be fair. I can afford 600 dollars and so can you, But a lot of the general public feel 600 dollars for a console is neo geo money, thats a taboo price tag"" , The wii has an attractive list of features. and content that for as much as people like to diss what nintendo does. No one will deny. There is no other developer on the planet that has as much talent and quality under one roof as nintendo. Can you put a price on quality?

                                360s world wide are breaking down with the red ring of death. Deny it if you want, it would do you no good. this is a world wide disaster for microsoft that did effect their image and cost them over a billion dollars, and the problem still isn't corrected. Check here for proof

                                Sony has damaged their selves with underhanded market tactics, alienating their fan base and flat out federal crimes. To be honest. I'm not trying to convince anyone what system is better then the other. The world itself has spoken. And the wii is what it wants.
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                                  17 years, 2 months ago
                                  shadowprophet
                                  In truth., when weighing the true pros and cons of this gens console wars. The wii has won and will stay on top. If for no other reason then Microsoft's lack of popularity over seas. and sony's less the reputable tactics. Its fair to say nintendo may have won own its own merits entirely. As microsoft isn't popular over seas and Sony basically self destructed itself.


                                  Being roughly one year into this current "war", your assumption is a bit premature. Right now is a crucial tme for the Wii to show if it is just a fad or something to be reckoned with for the next few years. It's not new anymore and this X-mas will be its second holiday season on the market. You see this product more and more frequrntly than once was the case. Lets see how people respond to the Wii now that the 360 has offered some price cuts, offered different bundles, has recently put up big time titles, etc..,

                                  Ultimately, Nintendo needs to start moving software if it is to win this mythical console war. MP3 was one of the first true big name titles to hit the Wii and its sales have been somewhat poor. Nintendo should be a bit concerned and we'll see what SMG has to say.
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                                    17 years, 2 months ago
                                    JCU
                                    Being roughly one year into this current "war", your assumption is a bit premature. Right now is a crucial tme for the Wii to show if it is just a fad or something to be reckoned with for the next few years. It's not new anymore and this X-mas will be its second holiday season on the market. You see this product more and more frequrntly than once was the case. Lets see how people respond to the Wii now that the 360 has offered some price cuts, offered different bundles, has recently put up big time titles, etc..,

                                    Ultimately, Nintendo needs to start moving software if it is to win this mythical console war. MP3 was one of the first true big name titles to hit the Wii and its sales have been somewhat poor. Nintendo should be a bit concerned and we'll see what SMG has to say.


                                    I'll be honest with you, At the time I posted that article, I didn't know about the 360 arcade pack, I've been all over the net reading up about it.

                                    family arcade pack

                                    I've learned a lot about what microsoft has done to counter the red ring threat. It seems the older original 360s used a zepher chipset with 90-nm chips.
                                    While the newer 360's "the ones that are less likely to break down" use the falcon chipsets. with 65-nm chipsets, they are smaller and less likely to overheat.
                                    I have an old zepher unit. But with the promised reliability of the falcon models. plus the attractive 280.00 price tag. I'm acutely thinking of getting another.
                                    As the arcade packs are confirmed to be equipped with he falcon chipsets and boards.

                                    A more reliable 360 at an affordable price. yeah, I'm getting a backup. The arcade pack is basically a core unit that comes with one wireless controller, 256 meg mem. and five games " all xbox live downloads" but still.

                                    The 360 truly is looking good for this holiday season.

                                    Read up about the zepher/falcon chipset thing.
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                                      17 years, 2 months ago
                                      gee i wonder what this will cost
                                      wii would like to play
                                      shinestar is back!
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                                        17 years, 2 months ago
                                        shinestar
                                        gee i wonder what this will cost



                                        lol I did manage to get off topic a bit didn't I.
                                        recent news articles suggest it will be 1500 wii points :)
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