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Is it just me or has the parents of the new generation become useless piles of crap? I mean Im a parent of two children and it makes me sick when I see a kid smack their parent and instead of beating their ass they put them in time out or put them in their room to play with their toys or to play there 360's? Who knows maybe its just me that thinks parents have let the media pussify them.
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    Is it just me or has the parents of the new generation become useless piles of crap? I mean Im a parent of two children and it makes me sick when I see a kid smack their parent and instead of beating their ass they put them in time out or put them in their room to play with their toys or to play there 360's? Who knows maybe its just me that thinks parents have let the media pussify them.


    o_O I believe very strongly that a parent should never hit their child. If the child is raised right, he wont be smacking his parents. But I also dont agree with sending them too their room with their 360's, id rather take away their tv and internet access..or ground them.
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      What i do is make them kneel down in the corner and put there hands on there ass
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        Hitting a kid only makes them scared of you, and your telling them that its okay to hit. I think spanking sends the wrong message to kids.

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        What i do is make them kneel down in the corner and put there hands on there ass


        Yeah, I feel really bad for your kids.
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          I kind of have to do that becuase I only have him two days a week and his mother still gives him sippy cups and carries him around like an infant. He slaps her mom in the face and she laughs about it. He bit his uncle in his private region and they all laughed about it instead of correcting him. In no way am I saying beat kids until there bruised but a swat on the ass is fine by me.
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            o_O I believe very strongly that a parent should never hit their child. If the child is raised right, he wont be smacking his parents. But I also dont agree with sending them too their room with their 360's, id rather take away their tv and internet access..or ground them.


            I like you do believe in spanking. I mean spanking only(not hitting anywhere eles) some kids just don't listen when you try other punishments and what do you do if they get up when you make them sit as punishment. My parents were very abusive and were eventually charged with child abuse and I went to go live with my grandparents. My grandparents spanked me and I never felt abused by them. I personally think it is the way you use physical punishment and when that determines if it is right or not. I rarely do spank though =it has been weeks for my kids and I try warning , talking, explaining, and grounding first but when all eles fails... What I find even more disturbing than spanking a child is the verbal abuse I see in place of it. From experiance: spankings fade away alot faster than the words that people use to hit with. Spanking a child who continually runs into the road is alot better than degrading a kid to the point that their forming personality changes for the worst because of your words in anger (and it doesn't take much)
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              I kind of have to do that becuase I only have him two days a week and his mother still gives him sippy cups and carries him around like an infant. He slaps her mom in the face and she laughs about it. He bit his uncle in his private region and they all laughed about it instead of correcting him. In no way am I saying beat kids until there bruised but a swat on the ass is fine by me.


              Even in other threads I have seen you make comments about how parents should practically beat their kids. No offense but how old are you? You sound really young. Hitting and beating a child wont "correct" him, thats for damn sure. You say you hit your kids yet they still act as they do, so obviously its not doing jack.
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                Thank God parents still have the right to spank their kids. Spanking has been an effective parenting tool for eons. There is absolutely a difference between spanking and abuse.

                I've found that most people that are against spanking either don't have kids or are a fruit-loop. Nearly every successful and happy adult I know can recall their parents telling them "Go pick yourself out a switch." Now THAT is effective parenting.

                Seems like spanking is best when it is done quick and without emotion. This sets up a system in the child's mind that's basically "If I do ____ then I will get spanked". Kind of like how scientists train rats by negitive feedback. For example, if two pieces of cheese are placed, one which will send a quick shock to the rat and one that won't, the rat will eventually pick the side that won't shock them, and will continue that habit until it dies. Same concept in child rearing.
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                  Not beating smack on the butt. Never have smacked my child anywhere else. There is a difference between a smack and abuse.
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                    It doesnt seem like what your doing is just a "light smack on the bottom". Especially when you say your training to become a pro wrestler o_o

                    "it makes me sick when I see a kid smack their parent and instead of beating their ass............ect"
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                      Thank God parents still have the right to spank their kids. Spanking has been an effective parenting tool for eons. There is absolutely a difference between spanking and abuse.

                      I've found that most people that are against spanking either don't have kids or are a fruit-loop. Nearly every successful and happy adult I know can recall their parents telling them "Go pick yourself out a switch." Now THAT is effective parenting.


                      I was beat with the belt but I wont use them on my children. And its alot easier to " correct " a child if the parents are still together instead of two people trying different approaches.
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                        I kind of have to do that becuase I only have him two days a week and his mother still gives him sippy cups and carries him around like an infant. He slaps her mom in the face and she laughs about it. He bit his uncle in his private region and they all laughed about it instead of correcting him. In no way am I saying beat kids until there bruised but a swat on the ass is fine by me.


                        how old is the child on the sippy cup if you don't mind me asking? and my oldest is the type who has always been very sensitive (cries if you raise your voice and she is a teen now) but my youngest......she doesnt care if anyone likes her, she is my beautifull wild child: opinionated and fiercly strong. I love that about her but, she bites too. We tried everything and eventually she just stopped on her own. The only time she ever got spanked for it was when she bit a newborn baby, I think it was jealousy that she didn't know how to express. ---she did get publicly spanked for that one.

                        plus it is hard to deal with sometimes when you dont agree on parenting rules with the ex. be carefull not to overcompinsate for your ex's lack of discipline when you have your child or there will be resentment. Plus its not the kids fault your ex doesnt correct him.it will make your job even more difficult.:(
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                          It doesnt seem like what your doing is just a "light smack on the bottom". Especially when you say your training to become a pro wrestler o_o

                          "it makes me sick when I see a kid smack their parent and instead of beating their ass"


                          Yeah ass not mouth or head. But wrestling is staged its all a performance. You asked how old I am Im 27 but let me ask you a question too. How many kids do you have?
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                            It doesnt seem like what your doing is just a "light smack on the bottom". Especially when you say your training to become a pro wrestler o_o


                            Wow, way to stereotype people, Nick.
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                              how old is the child on the sippy cup if you don't mind me asking? and my oldest is the type who has always been very sensitive (cries if you raise your voice and she is a teen now) but my youngest......she doesnt care if anyone likes her, she is my beautifull wild child: opinionated and fiercly strong. I love that about her but, she bites too. We tried everything and eventually she just stopped on her own. The only time she ever got spanked for it was when she bit a newborn baby, I think it was jealousy that she didn't know how to express. ---she did get publicly spanked for that one.

                              plus it is hard to deal with sometimes when you dont agree on parenting rules with the ex. be carefull not to overcompinsate for your ex's lack of discipline when you have your child or there will be resentment. Plus its not the kids fault your ex doesnt correct him.it will make your job even more difficult.:(

                              That is true it does make it more difficult. Hes gonna be 4 in a month. Its more the fact that he bites and no one does nething about it. He hasnt bit me but he has bit my ex.
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                                Im sorry if you think Im a child abuser thats not what I meant by starting this thread all I wanted to point out is the fact that parents today are way to lenient on their children. If I wouldve tried a fourth of the stuff I seen kids pulling nowadays. I wouldve gotten the belt.
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                                  I was beat with the belt but I wont use them on my children. And its alot easier to " correct " a child if the parents are still together instead of two people trying different approaches.


                                  I know what you mean about the 2 approaches. My ex when he does come around(hasnt since jan. and before that not for 2 yrs.) he just ignores her bad behavior. Well, that puts me in the position of the bad guy for one. and of course him the good stranger who shows up every now and then baring gifts he bought with money he should be paying child support with (nine thousand in rearage)---she then thinks I am the jerk when he hasnt even called in months. the truth is I am the one who cares because I am here and show her I do care by punishing her so that she becomes a decent person someday. (this she will figure out someday on her own, I dont believe in telling kids things about the other parent they dont need to know)for now I wait for her to figure it out for herself. I have tried to talk to him about it but he is still mad at me for leaving(even though he remarried 2 x already lol)he is totally irrational.

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                                  Im sorry if you think Im a child abuser thats not what I meant by starting this thread all I wanted to point out is the fact that parents today are way to lenient on their children. If I wouldve tried a fourth of the stuff I seen kids pulling nowadays. I wouldve gotten the belt.


                                  they are too lenient. In 10-20 years we will see the true effects of it too.
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                                    I never once called anyone a child abuser. But I HAVE said I dont agree with spanking. I cant imagine inflicting pain on something you have created......it seems so cruel and unneeded. My parents never laid a hand on me, and im very well rounded and behaved.
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                                      I know what you mean about the 2 approaches. My ex when he does come around(hasnt since jan. and before that not for 2 yrs.) he just ignores her bad behavior. Well, that puts me in the position of the bad guy for one. and of course him the good stranger who shows up every now and then baring gifts he bought with money he should be paying child support with (nine thousand in rearage)---she then thinks I am the jerk when he hasnt even called in months. the truth is I am the one who cares because I am here and show her I do care by punishing her so that she becomes a decent person someday. (this she will figure out someday on her own, I dont believe in telling kids things about the other parent they dont need to know)for now I wait for her to figure it out for herself. I have tried to talk to him about it but he is still mad at me for leaving(even though he remarried 2 x already lol)he is totally irrational.

                                      Yeah thats what its like with my fiance. Im more of a parent to her 5 year old than her ex. He does get her every other weekend but I pay about 300 in child support and I make i guess about 10 bucks an hour her ex is a mechanic and makes like 20 bucks an hour yet only pays her 200. Its really her fault tho cause she stopped the court order for support. And what rally upset me is when he paid her the last time he told the daughter that it was her money to buy stuff with. I was like no that for your mom to buy you food and keep a roof over your head. So yeah I know how hard it is to be the bad parent cause its easier to be the friend than the parent.

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                                      I never once called anyone a child abuser. But I HAVE said I dont agree with spanking. I cant imagine inflicting pain on something you have created......it seems so cruel and unneeded. My parents never laid a hand on me, and im very well rounded and behaved.


                                      And Im glad you are well rounded. Its commendable. And no Im not being sarcastic there.
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                                        It just seems like spanking is the easy way out......inflicting pain on a child so it doesnt want to perform a certain action anymore. "ARE YOU BACK TALKING TO ME?! *SPANK!*" instead of auctually sitting down the child and telling him/her how it effects you and why they shouldnt do it.
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