knuclear200x
5908 Posts
15 years, 5 months ago
When I think about all that content shown in Adventures of the Little Koala, Maya the Bee and David the Gnome compared to what I've seen with Dora the Explorer, Blue's Clues and various other animated things i cant remember...I begin to wonder this sort of thing.
I mean Koala featured one of the characters being pushed away in the rapids and nearly into a waterfall for like 5 minutes, then one character flies through a closed window. Maya the Bee used the word "idiot" once and may have featured insect death and probably that one scene where a kid tries to rip off a dragonfly's wings. David the Gnome had blood, and that sad last episode.
Im probably making a Nick Jr. sucks now thread but seeing as i havent seen Jr in years I cant say a thing about it. so sorry if thats what it is. What do u guys think thougj?
I mean Koala featured one of the characters being pushed away in the rapids and nearly into a waterfall for like 5 minutes, then one character flies through a closed window. Maya the Bee used the word "idiot" once and may have featured insect death and probably that one scene where a kid tries to rip off a dragonfly's wings. David the Gnome had blood, and that sad last episode.
Im probably making a Nick Jr. sucks now thread but seeing as i havent seen Jr in years I cant say a thing about it. so sorry if thats what it is. What do u guys think thougj?
I'm going to have to agree with you there. The old Nick Jr. showed things that would never fly today because it would be either too old fashioned or too much action for the kids of today. I think it's because there's more focus on education and less on imagination. I don't really understand why that it because I've never seen a study that says the newer shows actually make kids smarter. I guess the parents today just like to think that it does.They're going to be very disappointed in the long run.
Well I do have to say that the majority of the programming on Nick Jr does suck now with the exception of one program and that being Yo Gabba Gabba me , my fiance and the kids all love it.
Yeah I do there shows made adults enjoy it too David the Gnome is a guilty pleasure of mine
What's wrong with saying idiot ? Sometimes people, especially little kids, are idiots.
I don't remember Maple Town but my fiance liked it alot.
knuclear200x
5908 Posts
15 years, 5 months ago
Sunni
I'm going to have to agree with you there. The old Nick Jr. showed things that would never fly today because it would be either too old fashioned or too much action for the kids of today. I think it's because there's more focus on education and less on imagination. I don't really understand why that it because I've never seen a study that says the newer shows actually make kids smarter. I guess the parents today just like to think that it does.They're going to be very disappointed in the long run.
Ive heard a news report that was actually confirmed, and the guys behind Baby Einstein stopped associating the word "education" into their subtitles and changed it to something else. I do not know much about it though.
Spottedfeather
What's wrong with saying idiot ? Sometimes people, especially little kids, are idiots.
Yeah, but Dora, Blue, and those Yo gabba gabba guys dont say it...I think...which led me to believe that such a word was too harsh.
I can agree, yet they do occasionally seem to show content that may interest kids over 5.
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AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGG! I came across this thread after seeing that disturbing Diego look-a-like in the American Dad! episode 1600 candles (the bouncy castle at the kid's birthday party) !
Some of the stuff that eventually ended up on Nick Jr. , wasn't originally apart of Nick Jr.'s block. In the 80s, up to a point, Nick Jr. ended at 12:00. Nickelodeon ended at 8:00.
Shows like the Noozles, David the Gnome, Maya the Bee, Grimms Fairytale Classics, etc., were apart of Nickelodeon's afternoon block before they ended up on Nick Jr. later on, where the block was extended. That may have something to do with it.
The only shows I can think of that were always apart of the Nick Jr. block, are:
Pinwheel
Sharon, Lois, and Bram's Elephant Show
Adventures of the Little Koala
Mapletown
Fred Penner's Place (might not count, since iirc, this came on in the early 90s)
Eureka's Castle
Shows like the Noozles, David the Gnome, Maya the Bee, Grimms Fairytale Classics, etc., were apart of Nickelodeon's afternoon block before they ended up on Nick Jr. later on, where the block was extended. That may have something to do with it.
The only shows I can think of that were always apart of the Nick Jr. block, are:
Pinwheel
Sharon, Lois, and Bram's Elephant Show
Adventures of the Little Koala
Mapletown
Fred Penner's Place (might not count, since iirc, this came on in the early 90s)
Eureka's Castle
knuclear200x
5908 Posts
15 years, 5 months ago
SSJ_Jup81
Some of the stuff that eventually ended up on Nick Jr. , wasn't originally apart of Nick Jr.'s block. In the 80s, up to a point, Nick Jr. ended at 12:00. Nickelodeon ended at 8:00.
Shows like the Noozles, David the Gnome, Maya the Bee, Grimms Fairytale Classics, etc., were apart of Nickelodeon's afternoon block before they ended up on Nick Jr. later on, where the block was extended. That may have something to do with it.
The only shows I can think of that were always apart of the Nick Jr. block, are:
Pinwheel
Sharon, Lois, and Bram's Elephant Show
Adventures of the Little Koala
Mapletown
Fred Penner's Place (might not count, since iirc, this came on in the early 90s)
Eureka's Castle
Which begs the question, was that show REALLY for kids 5 and under? It was mostly kiddy but there were situations that would scare a child.
I can't think of anything in those old shows that "scared me", then again, I was an odd child. The things that usually scared me, were things involving live-action things since I knew from a young age how cartoons weren't real. Seeing The Making of Thriller at a young age helped that along too.
For the most part, the shows were probably aimed at probably an older audience (maybe 7, 8 years and up).
For the most part, the shows were probably aimed at probably an older audience (maybe 7, 8 years and up).
I'm not going to hate on the new cartoons and movies aimed at our kids but I WILL say that I think the reason they are so different from what we watched is that I think it's just one of those things where because everyone wanted everything to be so PC and for no one to offend anyone in fear of someone getting sue happy, they dummed down the entertainment. It really does suck. Our kids cartoons are reduced to burp and fart jokes which I guess obviously still get laughs haha. I guess we can't have it both ways. I for sure don't like offending people but when it's gotten to the point where they start taking things they think are offensive off of SESAME STREET, things have gone downhill LOL. Everyone always says kids are wussies these days and they couldn't handle seeing things. I don't think that's true. I think it's that people just won't show it in fear of being sued or losing viewership from those that are extremely PC. It's kind of weird if you think about it. It was supposed to be progress to be less racist and more PC but instead it's gotten over the top and out of control. In fact it seems like sometimes you go to the movies and you have a choice of one that is either pulling out all the stops and making fun of EVERYONE and everything ala scary movie type movies or that is pure fluff. (Secret agent reduced to babysitting, has to deal with dog that burps and farts, kids pull pranks on him, he falls downstairs, etc).
knuclear200x
I mean Koala featured one of the characters being pushed away in the rapids and nearly into a waterfall for like 5 minutes, then one character flies through a closed window.
Edit: Never mind.
Is this the one you were talking about?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS_VlHABImA
I remembered the ep vaguely. lol
I actually completely disagree, I think the opposite.
Is Dora the Explorer really a proper show for kids 5 and under? I think it greatly talks down to kids.
Dora: "Can you see the square?? Can you see the SQUARE!!"
*Square is right in front of their face...
Um are they trying to dumb down kids? What the hell do they learn from this show? Except rudimentary spanish. It's just a show that entertains your kids on the most basic level.
Shows like The Busy World of RIchard Scary taught kids new and interesting words without being goddamn obvious about it. Kids 5 and under are still developing their motor, speech, and basic communication skills. If they watch shows with full dialogue and situations, that's only going to be beneficial to their development. When I was a small child I read and was read The Busy World of Richard Scary, The Berenstain Bears, etc...from ages 3 and up.
Is Dora the Explorer really a proper show for kids 5 and under? I think it greatly talks down to kids.
Dora: "Can you see the square?? Can you see the SQUARE!!"
*Square is right in front of their face...
Um are they trying to dumb down kids? What the hell do they learn from this show? Except rudimentary spanish. It's just a show that entertains your kids on the most basic level.
Shows like The Busy World of RIchard Scary taught kids new and interesting words without being goddamn obvious about it. Kids 5 and under are still developing their motor, speech, and basic communication skills. If they watch shows with full dialogue and situations, that's only going to be beneficial to their development. When I was a small child I read and was read The Busy World of Richard Scary, The Berenstain Bears, etc...from ages 3 and up.
knuclear200x
5908 Posts
15 years, 5 months ago
SSJ_Jup81
Are you sure that's from Adventure of the Lil' Koala? Just doesn't sound like something that would've been on that show. I'd expect that on Noozles before Adventure of the Lil Koala.knuclear200xI mean Koala featured one of the characters being pushed away in the rapids and nearly into a waterfall for like 5 minutes, then one character flies through a closed window.
Edit: Never mind.
Is this the one you were talking about?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS_VlHABImA
I remembered the ep vaguely. lol
No...this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVTPH53d2nI
I remember some of the eps, but this one I didn't at all until they tried to save Mimi. Also, Floppy, up to a point, sounded different.
The main episode that stood out that I remember that did have kind of an "older audience" feel to it, was the one dealing with anorexia. Didn't know the "term", as it wasn't used, but Pammie's character was starving herself because she felt she was "round like a balloon", because of Walter's teasing.
I guess, back then, children weren't as shielded from stuff or something. That's all I can come up with since it was on Nick Jr. It does seem that some of the programming for younger, Nick Jr. aged children now are focused more on education as opposed to a balance of things which may show shows that are purely fun and adventurous and have some morals tossed in.
The main episode that stood out that I remember that did have kind of an "older audience" feel to it, was the one dealing with anorexia. Didn't know the "term", as it wasn't used, but Pammie's character was starving herself because she felt she was "round like a balloon", because of Walter's teasing.
I guess, back then, children weren't as shielded from stuff or something. That's all I can come up with since it was on Nick Jr. It does seem that some of the programming for younger, Nick Jr. aged children now are focused more on education as opposed to a balance of things which may show shows that are purely fun and adventurous and have some morals tossed in.
knuclear200x
5908 Posts
15 years, 5 months ago
SSJ_Jup81
I remember some of the eps, but this one I didn't at all until they tried to save Mimi. Also, Floppy, up to a point, sounded different.
The main episode that stood out that I remember that did have kind of an "older audience" feel to it, was the one dealing with anorexia. Didn't know the "term", as it wasn't used, but Pammie's character was starving herself because she felt she was "round like a balloon", because of Walter's teasing.
I guess, back then, children weren't as shielded from stuff or something. That's all I can come up with since it was on Nick Jr. It does seem that some of the programming for younger, Nick Jr. aged children now are focused more on education as opposed to a balance of things which may show shows that are purely fun and adventurous and have some morals tossed in.
that guy has that too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KMMZlq80nI
which seems like a good reason they dont show that one. If she wanted to lose weight they shouldve mentioned healthy alternatives or limits. Oh well.
System
79987 Posts
15 years, 5 months ago
i agree that david the gnome was a little over the rating for little children. even in the first episode david cuts a hole in an animal to take out a needle. though there was no blood in the episode, it did show david putting his hands inside of the wound where he cut the hole. but even with that in the way, if it hadn't been for nick jr. airing that show, i would have never become a fan
I usually think Nick Jr. was just an educational block for kids, just like PBS Kids. Until they mention this was for preschoolers. But, I always grew up watching these shows in the late 80s and the early to mid '90s.
Felixthecat34213
I actually completely disagree, I think the opposite.
Is Dora the Explorer really a proper show for kids 5 and under? I think it greatly talks down to kids.
Dora: "Can you see the square?? Can you see the SQUARE!!"
*Square is right in front of their face...
Um are they trying to dumb down kids? What the hell do they learn from this show? Except rudimentary spanish. It's just a show that entertains your kids on the most basic level.
Shows like The Busy World of RIchard Scary taught kids new and interesting words without being goddamn obvious about it. Kids 5 and under are still developing their motor, speech, and basic communication skills. If they watch shows with full dialogue and situations, that's only going to be beneficial to their development. When I was a small child I read and was read The Busy World of Richard Scary, The Berenstain Bears, etc...from ages 3 and up.
I have to totally agree with you.
Shows like Dora and Mickey Mouse Clubhouse have no good story plots, I can't stand the "Do you see the...." Yeah, how can we not! I greatly do miss the old nickjr days. Shows like David the Gnome, Papa Beaver's Story Time, Rupert, Busy World of Richard Scary, and the others. All had interesting and good storylines and morals. The new Busytown Mysteries, is pretty good though.