The trial of the death of Michael Jackson is underway, and the defense team is saying that Jackson caused his own death.
Yep. That is true.
System
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13 years, 8 months ago
The child molestor did cause his own death. No one forced him on the drugs.
I still don't see how anyone could seriously call him a child molester. Until there's actual proof of it, I refuse to believe it.
That aside, I don't think the doctor is going to get a fair trial. I heard today that quite a few of the jurors are Michael Jackson fans. How is that fair and impartial?
That aside, I don't think the doctor is going to get a fair trial. I heard today that quite a few of the jurors are Michael Jackson fans. How is that fair and impartial?
System
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13 years, 8 months ago
Jackson was never found innocent of molesting the boys. That makes him a pedophile and criminal.
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13 years, 8 months ago
How come it took this long for an actual trial to take place? it's been around 2 years since that doctor was charged right? Unless all trials involving celebrities take this long to start?
DebrisStorm
The child molestor did cause his own death. No one forced him on the drugs.
I don't know how far he went with it, but there is no doubt in my mind he got off on little kids.
Sometimes kids need tough love........in their butt.
In almost any case, I completely agree that drug addicts are responsible for themselves (at least in a legal sense), but when it comes to regulated drugs, the doctors that prescribed them to him and even brought them straight to his house should be held accountable. He was taking drugs that should not be legally administered outside of a medical facility, by doctor or addict. They're also alleging that the doctor did not call 911 when he found him. That alone violates emergency protocol- even an off duty EMT would be put on trial for that. I don't see him getting less than his license revoked for this.
It's just sad that the trial itself is as much of a circus as the media covering it.
Imagine how long it took to build a case and select jurors with how popular he and his death was. They didn't even do the best job, either. There's obvious bias. I see this dragging out quite a bit with deadlocks.
It's just sad that the trial itself is as much of a circus as the media covering it.
New_Age_Reto_Hippie
How come it took this long for an actual trial to take place? it's been around 2 years since that doctor was charged right? Unless all trials involving celebrities take this long to start?
Imagine how long it took to build a case and select jurors with how popular he and his death was. They didn't even do the best job, either. There's obvious bias. I see this dragging out quite a bit with deadlocks.
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Sunriser
In almost any case, I completely agree that drug addicts are responsible for themselves (at least in a legal sense), but when it comes to regulated drugs, the doctors that prescribed them to him and even brought them straight to his house should be held accountable. He was taking drugs that should not be legally administered outside of a medical facility, by doctor or addict. They're also alleging that the doctor did not call 911 when he found him. That alone violates emergency protocol- even an off duty EMT would be put on trial for that. I don't see him getting less than his license revoked for this.
It's just sad that the trial itself is as much of a circus as the media covering it.New_Age_Reto_HippieHow come it took this long for an actual trial to take place? it's been around 2 years since that doctor was charged right? Unless all trials involving celebrities take this long to start?
Imagine how long it took to build a case and select jurors with how popular he and his death was. They didn't even do the best job, either. There's obvious bias. I see this dragging out quite a bit with deadlocks.
I agree, the jury in particular is quite bias, chances are that doctor is going to jail
I don't think Michael molested ANY children, but that man shouldn't spend a day behind bars. If Casey Anthony can get away with killing her daughter, than Conrad sure as hell can get away with supplying Michael drugs that, I might add, he took voluntarily. Nobody put a gun to his head and made him take those drugs. Furthermore, if it weren't Michael Jackson that died, Conrad wouldn't even be on trial.
SSJ_Jup81
I still don't see how anyone could seriously call him a child molester. Until there's actual proof of it, I refuse to believe it.
Not many people want to believe someone like this man could be a molester. Charity was this guy's unofficial middle name. He wasn't a big threatening bully. Rather, he was a boy in a man's body. In the early 1990's he paid something along the lines of $30,000,000 to a family who claimed he molested their child. An innocent man doesn't pay someone off in a situation like this.
Why the hell do people bring up Anthony as of late? You can't compare what happened to her with other people's situations. Unless the prosecution, defense, judge and jury are all the same, the comparison is moot.
PostalDude96
I don't think Michael molested ANY children, but that man shouldn't spend a day behind bars. If Casey Anthony can get away with killing her daughter, than Conrad sure as hell can get away with supplying Michael drugs that, I might add, he took voluntarily. Nobody put a gun to his head and made him take those drugs. Furthermore, if it weren't Michael Jackson that died, Conrad wouldn't even be on trial.
There is no comparison here- there was no proof that she killed her daughter. There is definite proof in this case that the doctor knowingly prescribed him dangerous amounts of drugs. The trial is to determine whether or not he should be held responsible for his death. It will probably determine the laws about prescriptions and reprimanding doctors going forward. It's very important.
JCU
Not many people want to believe someone like this man could be a molester. Charity was this guy's unofficial middle name. He wasn't a big threatening bully. Rather, he was a boy in a man's body. In the early 1990's he paid something along the lines of $30,000,000 to a family who claimed he molested their child. An innocent man doesn't pay someone off in a situation like this.
Of course not. Innocent people have never paid someone to keep something out of court and out of the public eye, no matter how crazy their allegations are. :roll:
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Sunriser
PostalDude96I don't think Michael molested ANY children, but that man shouldn't spend a day behind bars. If Casey Anthony can get away with killing her daughter, than Conrad sure as hell can get away with supplying Michael drugs that, I might add, he took voluntarily. Nobody put a gun to his head and made him take those drugs. Furthermore, if it weren't Michael Jackson that died, Conrad wouldn't even be on trial.
There is no comparison here- there was no proof that she killed her daughter. There is definite proof in this case that the doctor knowingly prescribed him dangerous amounts of drugs. The trial is to determine whether or not he should be held responsible for his death. It will probably determine the laws about prescriptions and reprimanding doctors going forward. It's very important.
Everyone when they're prescribed drugs, its in dangerous amounts. Its supposed to be taken over time in limited amounts. If the patient takes more than what is prescribed, then its the patient's fault. Not the doctors. And if the patient is an addict, like Jackson was, then its still the patient's fault.
Face facts, Michael Jackson was a drug addict child molester.
DebrisStorm
Everyone when they're prescribed drugs, its in dangerous amounts. Its supposed to be taken over time in limited amounts. If the patient takes more than what is prescribed, then its the patient's fault. Not the doctors. And if the patient is an addict, like Jackson was, then its still the patient's fault.
But if your patient uses it before they're supposed to get a refill, you should not prescribe them more. Bartenders in many states are legally obligated to deny service to an intoxicated person for this very reason. Many of Michael's doctors were doing this before he found one that would cave for the right amount of money. Doctors skirting the regulations should be punished.
Sunriser
Of course not. Innocent people have never paid someone to keep something out of court and out of the public eye, no matter how crazy their allegations are. :roll:
If you are innocent of all charges, why not fight them and proclaim your innocence? You don't just pay someone $30mil if you've got nothing to hide. This was Michael Jackson for Christ sake. He was a guy who could proclaim his story through virtually every media outlet and could afford the best counsel on the planet. Be realistic.
JCU
SunriserOf course not. Innocent people have never paid someone to keep something out of court and out of the public eye, no matter how crazy their allegations are. :roll:
If you are innocent of all charges, why not fight them and proclaim your innocence? You don't just pay someone $30mil if you've got nothing to hide. This was Michael Jackson for Christ sake. He was a guy who could proclaim his story through virtually every media outlet and could afford the best counsel on the planet. Be realistic.
I still don't believe the allegations, personally. Like I said, I don't recall much evidence put out there to back up the allegations.
The jury didn't need proof. Anybody with eyes could see that she's guilty. And the bottom line is, Dr. Conrad Murray did not take Michael's life. Michael did.
PostalDude96
The jury didn't need proof. Anybody with eyes could see that she's guilty. And the bottom line is, Dr. Conrad Murray did not take Michael's life. Michael did.
As for the doctor, yes, Michael took the meds, but who prescribed them? For normal people who take prescription medication, you aren't allowed to get more within a certain time frame. Let's say I run out of my 30-day supply of Metformin in 15-days. I wouldn't be allowed more unless my physician okays it and even then, I'm sure my doctor would be suspicious as would the pharamacist and wonder if I'm abusing it (I know bad example, but I do take Metformin). If this is, indeed, what the doctor did, then he should be punished in some way or form. I do not believe he "killed" Michael. I do believe Michael did it himself, but it was irresponsible of the doctor to keep writing out prescriptions or whatever for him to keep getting the medication just because Michael wanted it and didn't want to follow proper procedure.
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SSJ_Jup81
There wasn't enough evidence to prove that Casey Anthony killed her daughter, but imo, she should've been charged with at least child abuse/neglect/endangerment due to how long it took her to even report her daughter was missing.PostalDude96The jury didn't need proof. Anybody with eyes could see that she's guilty. And the bottom line is, Dr. Conrad Murray did not take Michael's life. Michael did.
As for the doctor, yes, Michael took the meds, but who prescribed them? For normal people who take prescription medication, you aren't allowed to get more within a certain time frame. Let's say I run out of my 30-day supply of Metformin in 15-days. I wouldn't be allowed more unless my physician okays it and even then, I'm sure my doctor would be suspicious as would the pharamacist and wonder if I'm abusing it (I know bad example, but I do take Metformin). If this is, indeed, what the doctor did, then he should be punished in some way or form. I do not believe he "killed" Michael. I do believe Michael did it himself, but it was irresponsible of the doctor to keep writing out prescriptions or whatever for him to keep getting the medication just because Michael wanted it and didn't want to follow proper procedure.
By this logic, why isn't the pharmacist(s) also on trial? The doctor prescribes the medication, but its the pharmacist who hands it out.