What do you think is the worst influence? Why?
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I feel that bad parents don't get in anywhere near as much trouble as the shows that the children watch. (Some) Parents are the worst influence because:
1. They tend to take the easy way and blame the movies, video games, etc. when the kids get violent, yet they want to turn around and threaten to beat them or find stupid excuses to beat them
2. They curse them out but wish that someone would cancel anything that they feel has inappropriate language and/or innuedos
3. They're willing to take all the credit for any good things that the kids do, but they play dumb when the kids do something negative
4. Some purposely have children in messed up neighborhoods and whole families full of bad influences (drug dealers, etc.)
5. They'll go to great lengths to cover up the truth about where babies come from but if their teenage daughter gets pregnant, they'll throw them on the street.
6. They lie about the stupidest things (Santa Clause, cartoon characters are real etc.) but if a kid tells one lie, he/she gets whipped
My parents and the parents of my childhood friends were just like this. They all had at least three of these personalities.
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I feel that bad parents don't get in anywhere near as much trouble as the shows that the children watch. (Some) Parents are the worst influence because:
1. They tend to take the easy way and blame the movies, video games, etc. when the kids get violent, yet they want to turn around and threaten to beat them or find stupid excuses to beat them
2. They curse them out but wish that someone would cancel anything that they feel has inappropriate language and/or innuedos
3. They're willing to take all the credit for any good things that the kids do, but they play dumb when the kids do something negative
4. Some purposely have children in messed up neighborhoods and whole families full of bad influences (drug dealers, etc.)
5. They'll go to great lengths to cover up the truth about where babies come from but if their teenage daughter gets pregnant, they'll throw them on the street.
6. They lie about the stupidest things (Santa Clause, cartoon characters are real etc.) but if a kid tells one lie, he/she gets whipped
My parents and the parents of my childhood friends were just like this. They all had at least three of these personalities.
yes, I agree with you.. TV influences a lot or should I say most of the televiewers especially the kids..
1. My parents let me ride my bike (on training wheels) in the hallways of the apartment building unsupervised when I was like 4 or 5 and the hallway had four different stairways.
2. My father wouldn't let me play with water guns or video games (He told my friends' parents not to let me play their games) or eat beef, ice cream, or candy (except on Halloween).
3. My parents never played with me sometime after I turned six years old. Even before that, they rarely paid attention to me unless they were mad.
4. They never threw me a birthday party.
5. My mother is so materialistic, that she doesn't like to have company in the house. Once, she beat me with a frying pan at age 8 when I let a friend in.
6. Once, the abusive mother of my friend threatened to beat me for no reason in front of my mother and my mother didn't say or do anything.
7. She let that same mother babysit me a few times.
2. My father wouldn't let me play with water guns or video games (He told my friends' parents not to let me play their games) or eat beef, ice cream, or candy (except on Halloween).
3. My parents never played with me sometime after I turned six years old. Even before that, they rarely paid attention to me unless they were mad.
4. They never threw me a birthday party.
5. My mother is so materialistic, that she doesn't like to have company in the house. Once, she beat me with a frying pan at age 8 when I let a friend in.
6. Once, the abusive mother of my friend threatened to beat me for no reason in front of my mother and my mother didn't say or do anything.
7. She let that same mother babysit me a few times.
JerseyJ
2. My father wouldn't let me play with water guns or video games (He told my friends' parents not to let me play their games) or eat beef, ice cream, or candy (except on Halloween).
5. My mother is so materialistic, that she doesn't like to have company in the house. Once, she beat me with a frying pan at age 8 when I let a friend in.
2. What? Why? My parents never let me play with water guns, either, because they thought they were "too violent" or some crap like that, but...No beef, ice cream, or candy? Jeez...
5. That's pretty brutal, man....
You've got to be kidding me. Can you say why you think TV is a worse influence?
All I know is that when my father died, I was free to play games. A little while after he died, I met a boy who had a Genesis. I would always go to his apartment and play his games while he and my other friends were outside playing. In other words, I was using him and rarely hung outside with him. Video games were new to me at that time (I was 7 years old and never played even one video game before).
When my father was alive, I was literally praying for the day I could play. Thanks to him, I neglected my friends to play video games all day when I got my systems. I eventually got over the gamer craze, but all my childhood friends live in different cities now and we're out of touch. Now that I look back on that, I feel bad for taking advantage of them. If I have kids one day, I'll never put them through what my parents put me through.
This issue is kinda big, so can you post reasons why you believe that TV is worse than the people raising the kids?
brown_eyed1
2. What? Why? My parents never let me play with water guns, either, because they thought they were "too violent" or some crap like that
All I know is that when my father died, I was free to play games. A little while after he died, I met a boy who had a Genesis. I would always go to his apartment and play his games while he and my other friends were outside playing. In other words, I was using him and rarely hung outside with him. Video games were new to me at that time (I was 7 years old and never played even one video game before).
When my father was alive, I was literally praying for the day I could play. Thanks to him, I neglected my friends to play video games all day when I got my systems. I eventually got over the gamer craze, but all my childhood friends live in different cities now and we're out of touch. Now that I look back on that, I feel bad for taking advantage of them. If I have kids one day, I'll never put them through what my parents put me through.
This issue is kinda big, so can you post reasons why you believe that TV is worse than the people raising the kids?
DMoney89
2503 Posts
17 years, 6 months ago
You can't have a bad kid without a bad parent. Period.
If kids get access to violent crap on TV, it's the parents fault. Period. End of story. It's not even a debate.
There's no way in hell I'd be caught dead watching an R rated movie, or even PG-13 for that matter, without getting an ass-whooping with a two-by-four. They set the rules and the punishment so I would never think about breaking them, so that's why I didn't watch anything that wasn't appropriate for my age.
It all comes down to parenting. TV is for everyone. From little kids to full grown adults, there's something on TV for everyone. And there are certain programs and channels meant for kids and certain programs and channel meant for adults.
If a kid gets access to an adult program, it's the parents fault for not setting up guidelines and rules for their kid. Not having the responsibility of monitoring what your kid watches. When I have kids on my own, I'm gonna block so much crap...
It's not TV's responsibility for taking care of kids. It's the parents.
If kids get access to violent crap on TV, it's the parents fault. Period. End of story. It's not even a debate.
There's no way in hell I'd be caught dead watching an R rated movie, or even PG-13 for that matter, without getting an ass-whooping with a two-by-four. They set the rules and the punishment so I would never think about breaking them, so that's why I didn't watch anything that wasn't appropriate for my age.
It all comes down to parenting. TV is for everyone. From little kids to full grown adults, there's something on TV for everyone. And there are certain programs and channels meant for kids and certain programs and channel meant for adults.
If a kid gets access to an adult program, it's the parents fault for not setting up guidelines and rules for their kid. Not having the responsibility of monitoring what your kid watches. When I have kids on my own, I'm gonna block so much crap...
It's not TV's responsibility for taking care of kids. It's the parents.
DMoney89
You can't have a bad kid without a bad parent. Period.
If kids get access to violent crap on TV, it's the parents fault. Period. End of story. It's not even a debate.
There's no way in hell I'd be caught dead watching an R rated movie, or even PG-13 for that matter, without getting an ass-whooping with a two-by-four. They set the rules and the punishment so I would never think about breaking them, so that's why I didn't watch anything that wasn't appropriate for my age.
It all comes down to parenting. TV is for everyone. From little kids to full grown adults, there's something on TV for everyone. And there are certain programs and channels meant for kids and certain programs and channel meant for adults.
If a kid gets access to an adult program, it's the parents fault for not setting up guidelines and rules for their kid. Not having the responsibility of monitoring what your kid watches. When I have kids on my own, I'm gonna block so much crap...
It's not TV's responsibility for taking care of kids. It's the parents.
What you said. Blaming TV is just a scapegoat for poor parenting. It's like blaming Rock N' Roll or.....I dunno, the devil or something.
kayvee
so what was the deal with Beef?
I don't know
For the record, I disagree with the child blocks, too. It's ignorant to beat your kids, period, let alone block TV shows because of violence.
DMoney89
2503 Posts
17 years, 6 months ago
JerseyJ
What do you think is the worst influence? Why?
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I feel that bad parents don't get in anywhere near as much trouble as the shows that the children watch. (Some) Parents are the worst influence because:
1. They tend to take the easy way and blame the movies, video games, etc. when the kids get violent, yet they want to turn around and threaten to beat them or find stupid excuses to beat them
2. They curse them out but wish that someone would cancel anything that they feel has inappropriate language and/or innuedos
3. They're willing to take all the credit for any good things that the kids do, but they play dumb when the kids do something negative
4. Some purposely have children in messed up neighborhoods and whole families full of bad influences (drug dealers, etc.)
5. They'll go to great lengths to cover up the truth about where babies come from but if their teenage daughter gets pregnant, they'll throw them on the street.
6. They lie about the stupidest things (Santa Clause, cartoon characters are real etc.) but if a kid tells one lie, he/she gets whipped
My parents and the parents of my childhood friends were just like this. They all had at least three of these personalities.
Sir, this entire post bonafides my post.
All of those have ZERO to do with TV. The influences surrounding you in the real, outside, non-TV world have an effect on you. There aren't instructional "How To Use a Gun" shows on TV. On a real gun, there is no "X' "O", R1, R2 buttons on it. It's so completely asinine and cowardly to blame video-game makers and TV people for your kid being fucked up. If your kid it fucked up, it's cause YOU fucked up. You shoulda taught him/her better.
And if TV's such a bad influence to your precious, perfect little child, get them the fuck away rom the TV. Let them play outside. Put him in a sport. Read a book. How bout you go to the park and play with your kids? TAKE CARE OF YOUR OWN FUCKING KIDS?! Oh, but wait, your life is waaaaaaaay too busy. You gotta do this and that and that and this. You just don't have the time! So just have the TV babysit your kid so you can live YOUR life and fulfill YOUR needs the way YOU want it. The kid's just there along for the ride...
Parents today make me sick. I'm making sure I won't be anything like the majority of "parents" today.
True and my parents weren't even busy 80% of the time. I used to play board games they bought me by myself. That's how bad it was. We lived in a nice neighborhood (aside from my friend's abusive mother), but they let me play in the halls alone before I was even tall enough to reach the stair rails.
I think parents are a bigger influence in kids' lives. TV doesn't do justice to what a prominent figure in your life can teach you.
However, the V-chip serves primarily as a vehicle so parents can be less of... a parent. Aren't the TV ratings enough?
However, the V-chip serves primarily as a vehicle so parents can be less of... a parent. Aren't the TV ratings enough?
DMoney89
2503 Posts
17 years, 6 months ago
99Centsplease
However, the V-chip serves primarily as a vehicle so parents can be less of... a parent. Aren't the TV ratings enough?
Apparently not. Just like with video-game rating labels. The parents have NO IDEA a game like Resident Evil or BLOODRayne are going to include blood and violence, even though there's a big ol' M slapped on it an M you can see a mile away.
gustogummi
2602 Posts
17 years, 6 months ago
Wow, I'm glad my parents was extremely leninent with me. :)
99Centsplease
I think parents are a bigger influence in kids' lives. TV doesn't do justice to what a prominent figure in your life can teach you.
However, the V-chip serves primarily as a vehicle so parents can be less of... a parent. Aren't the TV ratings enough?
Good post, 99Cents. As far as the v-chip goes, most kids have televisions in their rooms now. It's not fair to think that kids can be watched 24 hrs a day. My daughter is at a daycare facility right now and I have little control. If they have cable I would definitely want some kind of restriction device on certain channels. I don't want her watching those sluts on mtv
gustogummi
2602 Posts
17 years, 6 months ago
But parents today do make me sick too. I'm a parent myself and I don't let my kids play video games or watch TV all day. I raised them the way my parents raised me. I got them to join clubs, signed them up for summer camp and the likes. I also take them to the park quite often and I hardly see any other kids there.
The FCC, MPAA, and its supporters are also ignorant for assuming that all kids are afraid of whatever. Adults have fears, too, that most kids I knew didn't have. I'm an adult, myself, and I never did believe in age restrictions, especially when kids see violence, cigarettes, liquor, etc. nearly everywhere. These so-called "good" parents need to get off their asses and stop trying to hide everything just because they want to assume all the time. They need to explain about bad influences and the consequences because if they just try to hide the truth, it'll be a lot easier for the bad to corrupt them. And I'll be damned if I raise my kids the way my parents raised me.
It's kinda sad to see that so many people who had parents who believed in age restrictions want to all of a sudden restrict their kids. I don't plan on depriving my kids over an age barrier. I'm going to teach my kids about the consequences of cigarettes, liquor, and so on and so forth. And I'm not going to hide anything from them without an explanation.
It's kinda sad to see that so many people who had parents who believed in age restrictions want to all of a sudden restrict their kids. I don't plan on depriving my kids over an age barrier. I'm going to teach my kids about the consequences of cigarettes, liquor, and so on and so forth. And I'm not going to hide anything from them without an explanation.
JerseyJ
It's kinda sad to see that so many people who had parents who believed in age restrictions want to all of a sudden restrict their kids. I don't plan on depriving my kids over an age barrier. I'm going to teach my kids about the consequences of cigarettes, liquor, and so on and so forth. And I'm not going to hide anything from them without an explanation.
JerseyJ
It's kinda sad to see that so many people who had parents who believed in age restrictions want to all of a sudden restrict their kids. I don't plan on depriving my kids over an age barrier. I'm going to teach my kids about the consequences of cigarettes, liquor, and so on and so forth. And I'm not going to hide anything from them without an explanation.
am I getting this right?
JerseyJ
It's kinda sad to see that so many people who had parents who believed in age restrictions want to all of a sudden restrict their kids. I don't plan on depriving my kids over an age barrier. I'm going to teach my kids about the consequences of cigarettes, liquor, and so on and so forth. And I'm not going to hide anything from them without an explanation.
am I getting this right?
No. I don't believe that anyone should drink or smoke, no matter how old they are, for example, so I won't let them do it. I will, however, teach the kids about the consequences instead of just saying, "If you do this, I'll whip you." and never explain. That's what I'm trying to say.