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shadowprophet
235 Posts
17 years, 4 months ago
usually I try to be professional and detached. But I'm pissed off tonight. So this isn't one of those robotic news posts with all the media links and buttons. No this is a horse of another color. Leave while you can. Cause your about to get to know the real SP.

I don't know if my writing this is a waste of time or not.
Why should someone come into a public place put their soul on display just to have it judged by others. Can I be myself? Can anyone Be themselves.

People come to me all the time and ask for advice. I don't know why. It's always been that way, I have a friend Who his whole life has had problems finding someone. He is now in his mid 30's, He's been my friend since I was just a little kid. I've known him forever. And its fair to say he's one of my truest friends.

He gets in relationships. And when things start going bad, He never knows when to give up. He's still chasing women that dumped him years ago.

He cry's, "which is disturbing to me", He asks me what he is doing wrong. Then I have to listen to him for hours on his more depressed nights, About how everything sucks and his life sucks and nothing will ever change for him.

But I listen to him anyway. Because He's my closest friend.
It's always been like that. He Dumps all his problems on me. and I listen to him. Because no one else will
anymore.

Recently I was having a great day. Me and some friends went to his house "drank a few smoked a few"*for all those "analy politically correct" peeps out there, Assume I'm talking about cool aid and cigarettes,:rolleyes: *, I was having a great time. So where the girls and my friend, Then he gets some confidence and makes a move on one of the two girls I brought over.

This was not well received. He acts like a damned child and kicks her and the one I was interested in out of his home. *at this moment I don't know what you will be thinking about this situation, But this is nothing abnormal for his behavior*

I'm angered at him, So I tell him plainly, "Look bro, So the chick didn't want to party man, don't get all bent out of shape about it. there are lots and lots of women in the world." He says to me, "Yeah man, But she just got on my nerves and I needed to talk to you in private about something"

*I was still angry about being completely **** blocked by my friend here. " which was the true reason he kicked those girls out" "come on think about it. why would he kick both of them out unless he wanted to ****block someone"

Anyway..
I get really upset and just lay it completely on the lines, I tell him look man, Nobody else comes to you and brings you women but me...they aren't slaves! or a guarantee! dude, you still have to treat them like ladies and show a genuine interest..

I continue, With my anger about what happened. I tell him look. You have No idea how many falls I've taken for you! Just to get you the hook up, And you just mess all my plans up because things didn't go your own little way. I tell him to grow up and then I left.

I will admit, I was upset at my friend. I think he acted childishly and to such a degree it completely ruined my plans as well.

This is no huge deal. There are plenty of other women and plenty of other plans,
But this time. I'm pissed at my friend. I've went above and beyond the call of duty just to help him out, But He's so damned self centered.

I just need to know. After reading this story. Who is in the wrong here?
What would you have done?

Am I officially a Jerk now?

I felt That even though He is my life long friend that those ladies hadn't done anything deserving of being treated that way.. And I felt a need to defend that point.

Oh well later days, SP.
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    outfit
    899 Posts
    17 years, 4 months ago
    Um, sorry, but "Brings you women"??? hUH, WHAT??? Like, I'll bring a case of beer??? Sorry, just sounded BAD!!
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      shadowprophet
      235 Posts
      17 years, 4 months ago
      outfit
      Um, sorry, but "Brings you women"??? hUH, WHAT??? Like, I'll bring a case of beer??? Sorry, just sounded BAD!!


      You will have to forgive me..im out of sorts at the moment, I don't think of women as objects. I respect women. In my life. Every time I've needed support of any kind its always been women that come to my aid. They are more then objects. They are our counterparts.
      But tonight I'm just a little upset at my friend. Sorry if my post makes me sound chauvinist, I assure you that's not the case ;)
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        Ilikethepixies
        5870 Posts
        17 years, 4 months ago
        I think you acted perfectly fine. You are trying to help your friend out, but he clearly acted out of line.

        I think anyone would be lucky to have a friend like you, both in the bringing women part and in the telling him that he's acting like an ass part.

        If he is smart, he will listen. Otherwise, you've done all that you can do.
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          17 years, 4 months ago
          shadowprophet
          usually I try to be professional and detached.


          1) so what, you don't try to be home edition, media center edition, or tablet PC edition?

          2) professional: 2000 or XP?

          3) why would you wanna be professional? you don't make $50,000-$70,000/year, you don't get salary pay, you don't have a office job, you aren't the boss of anyone, etc*

          *: I really have no idea if you do any of these things :p
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            Timown
            1575 Posts
            17 years, 4 months ago
            i feel for you dude. i've got a few friends that i do my utmost to help as far as i can, but when it comes to the crunch, they don't help themselves.

            I back you 100%
            Shadowprophet
            He says to me, "Yeah man, But she just got on my nerves and I needed to talk to you in private about something"

            Did he actually talk to you about something personal?

            I now someone who is on some quite hard drugs, and me and a friend are jsut fed up of digging them out of holes, and have actually said we can't help her anymore, we've told her what we think of her habits, and don't want to stay frineds with her. that sounds quite childish, but we just don't that stress when we all have our own problems
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              Edymnion
              2304 Posts
              17 years, 4 months ago
              I have a hard time feeling sympathy for potheads that were just looking to score for the night.

                MattNash
                4135 Posts
                17 years, 4 months ago
                You did the right thing, Shadow. Friends or not, you have to know when to draw the line and not let them walk all over you, and if it doesn't get any better, you're going to have to know when to move on.
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                  shadowprophet
                  235 Posts
                  17 years, 4 months ago
                  Thanks Guys, That was really solid of all of you to come offer your help on this. So I'm going to reply to each of you in this post. , Cause that was pretty damned cool of you guys :)

                  Ilikethepixies
                  I think you acted perfectly fine. You are trying to help your friend out, but he clearly acted out of line.

                  I think anyone would be lucky to have a friend like you, both in the bringing women part and in the telling him that he's acting like an ass part.

                  If he is smart, he will listen. Otherwise, you've done all that you can do.


                  Thanks Bro, That's the way I view it too, But don't worry, he's been my friend most of my life. No mistake he ever makes will change that. I'll always be there, trying to help him as much as im able too. because there are only very few mistakes one can make that contrast the value of a true friend.

                  Timown
                  i feel for you dude. i've got a few friends that i do my utmost to help as far as i can, but when it comes to the crunch, they don't help themselves.

                  I back you 100%

                  Did he actually talk to you about something personal?

                  I now someone who is on some quite hard drugs, and me and a friend are just fed up of digging them out of holes, and have actually said we can't help her anymore, we've told her what we think of her habits, and don't want to stay friends with her. that sounds quite childish, but we just don't that stress when we all have our own problems


                  Well he never really talked to me about anything personal. That was his way of getting my undivided attention. But its all cool, I understand him. Sometimes he freaks out and doesn't know the best way to handle situations. So I forgive him.

                  As for your friend, Never give up her if your really her friend. I tell you from my own experience, I had a friend. she was really cool, But she was on very hard drugs. Myself I'm just an herb and alcohol man, So even though she was still my friend I distanced myself from her. That was a mistake. She needed the support. She tried to hang herself bro and she almost died, she was in intensive care for two weeks. I'm there for her now as much as I can be. Always be there for the friends that need you brother. Because sometimes we don't really know how much they truly depend on us.

                  adventure_of_link
                  1) so what, you don't try to be home edition, media center edition, or tablet PC edition?

                  2) professional: 2000 or XP?

                  3) why would you wanna be professional? you don't make $50,000-$70,000/year, you don't get salary pay, you don't have a office job, you aren't the boss of anyone, etc*

                  *: I really have no idea if you do any of these things :p


                  Lol of all the mods here, your the suavest, hands down brother. If they ever run a suavest Mod @ Rj contest, You totally have have my vote

                  *bows to your suavatude :cool:

                  Edymnion
                  I have a hard time feeling sympathy for potheads that were just looking to score for the night.


                  Edy your cool too, Not as cool as link, But still cool in your own way, I value that you read my situation and gave me your true honest opinion about this. The support I got from everyone here meant a lot, But I didn't just need support. I needed real opinions, And you gave that. And thats hard core cool brother.

                  MattNash
                  You did the right thing, Shadow. Friends or not, you have to know when to draw the line and not let them walk all over you, and if it doesn't get any better, you're going to have to know when to move on.


                  Amen to that, bro. But It will always get better with me and he. We've been friends Most of our lives, weve fought like cats and dogs. We've been there for each other in times of hardship. Like when I lost my uncle, and when he lost his father. We will always have our down times. But when we both cool off it will be like this whole thing never happened :)
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                    Video_Jukebox
                    1068 Posts
                    17 years, 4 months ago
                    shadowprophet
                    He gets in relationships. And when things start going bad, He never knows when to give up. He's still chasing women that dumped him years ago.

                    He cry's, "which is disturbing to me", He asks me what he is doing wrong. Then I have to listen to him for hours on his more depressed nights, About how everything sucks and his life sucks and nothing will ever change for him.

                    But I listen to him anyway. Because He's my closest friend.
                    It's always been like that. He Dumps all his problems on me. and I listen to him. Because no one else will
                    anymore.


                    I've KNOOOOOWN fellers like that. There's only so much of his kind of nonsense anyone can take. I wouldn't say you were a jerk here at all. You told him what he needed to hear rather than what he wanted to hear-- something only a real friend would do, I think-- and, if he's smart, he'll get a clue and figure out some way to improve on his behavior, otherwise you may have to let him go.
                    "Preserving the old ways from being abused,
                    Protecting the new ways for me and for you.
                    What more can we do?"
                    --The Kinks, "Village Green Preservation Society"
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                      17 years, 4 months ago
                      shadowprophet
                      Lol of all the mods here, your the suavest, hands down brother. If they ever run a suavest Mod @ Rj contest, You totally have have my vote

                      *bows to your suavatude :cool:


                      so what, I'm not the pert plusest, white rainest, or patenest mod here? :p
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                        Timown
                        1575 Posts
                        17 years, 4 months ago
                        shadowprophet
                        Well he never really talked to me about anything personal. That was his way of getting my undivided attention. But its all cool, I understand him. Sometimes he freaks out and doesn't know the best way to handle situations. So I forgive him.

                        As for your friend, Never give up her if your really her friend. I tell you from my own experience, I had a friend. she was really cool, But she was on very hard drugs. Myself I'm just an herb and alcohol man, So even though she was still my friend I distanced myself from her. That was a mistake. She needed the support. She tried to hang herself bro and she almost died, she was in intensive care for two weeks. I'm there for her now as much as I can be. Always be there for the friends that need you brother. Because sometimes we don't really know how much they truly depend on us.





                        don't get me wrong, i'm still here for her, but i'm not going to chase her around chastising her all the time, i don't like it, and i know she doesn't. i've not turned around and said, 'that's it, i don;t want any more to do with you' i've just stopped contacting her as much, whether or not that's the right thing to do, i don't know, but i have a lot of personal shit on that i'd rather not post on a public space, that kind of takes precedence over somebody who can't see that we're trying to help.

                        Thanks dude ;)
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