Thread: A four-letter word for decency police: Lame

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    • 13 years 11 months ago
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    By Richard Huff

    The Parents Television Council needs to stop it with the lamebrain TV-content surveys.

    The group recently came out with a report denouncing bad language and sexual content on kids' TV and claiming that children's programming was too violent. In fact, the PTC said, there's more violence in children's shows than there is in prime time.

    But the PTC proved the silliness of its work, and offended me in the process, by printing - oh, gosh - some curse words in the media release announcing this news.

    I am still reeling - like journalists all over the planet, no doubt - from that unprovoked, unexpected bad-word press-release sneak attack, the same way parents are blindsided by foul programs.

    Content is always a hot-button topic. What parents don't want their kids exposed to good, safe, smart programming?

    But in virtually every case, these content surveys fall apart upon a closer look.

    To make its point about bad language,the PTC's latest screed deals with "SpongeBob SquarePants" and is, by coincidence, full of holes.

    Why?

    Simply, the group goofed by citing an episode of the cartoon series called "Sailor Mouth" as a touch-point for bad language.

    Here's the funny thing: The episode is all about the perils of using bad language. It follows along as SpongeBob begins innocently tossing bad words into his sentences. Those words are never heard, ever, and are replaced with more dolphin sounds than you'll get in a day at Sea World. By the end of the show, SpongeBob and his friend Patrick learn why bad words are, well, bad, and they vow not to use them again.

    The PTC, of course, saw fit to use this positive episode as a negative. The group's media release claimed the dolphin sounds represent the F-bomb and a word for buttocks. Those words do not exist in the episode - and are only created in the minds of adults or young folks exposed to such language in the schoolyard or, dare I say, at home.

    The "findings" would be laudable if those words were really in the show and were only now being uncovered by researchers. However, this isn't the case, and using "SpongeBob" was a bad move.

    Most people would be hard-pressed not to take away something good from this episode of "SpongeBob."

    Not those at the PTC, though. Surprisingly, they didn't find a way to label Patrick and SpongeBob washing their tongues off to clean out the bad words as a violent sexual act, too.

    At one point early in the episode, after SpongeBob uses his newfound words, Patrick, equally befuddled by them, tells SpongeBob they're "sentence enhancers you use when you want to talk fancy."

    For the PTC, dropping in some bad words not found in the episode served as pressrelease enhancers to make the study sound fancy. And once again, the group proved how very difficult it is to quantify what's bad and good on television.
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    • 13 years 11 months ago
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    I freakin' love that episode!
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    Also there was an episode of Rugrats similar to Sailor Mouth... "The Word of the Day", iirc.

    If we're gonna fine that ep. of spongebob, you might as well fine that one too you assholes
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    • 13 years 11 months ago
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    Quote by adventure_of_link
    Also there was an episode of Rugrats similar to Sailor Mouth... "The Word of the Day", iirc.

    If we're gonna fine that ep. of spongebob, you might as well fine that one too you assholes


    Any one else wondering if they just draw pieces of paper out of a hat and thats how they decided what to sue?

    I think thats what Jerry Fallwell (or whatever his name is) does
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    • 13 years 11 months ago
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    Hey!

    Without Jerry Falwell, I never would've known what Teletubbie was gay or why the events of 9/11 really occured.
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    • 12 years 8 months ago
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    Man, I absolutely HATE the PTC. I think it was last year when they released a report on children's television named "Wolves in Sheep's Clothing". They pointed out everything they percieved as wrong with children's TV now (such as butt jokes, name calling, the aforementioned "Sailor Mouth" episode of SpongeBob and stuff like that). I think that pointing out the "bad" stuff there is ridiculous because kids TV is, well, juvenile, and so is the content.

    Not to mention they're trying to get FX to cancel Nip/Tuck because they find it offensive.

    I am still envious of their enormous archive of TV shows.
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    • 12 years 8 months ago
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    hey dude, you got a link or something?
    *sigh*
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    • 12 years 8 months ago
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    Quote by Shadow#206;253080
    hey dude, you got a link or something?


    Yes:

    [url]http://www.parentstv.org/PTC/publications/insider/2002/IAarchive.asp[/url]

    ^That's their archive.

    [url]http://www.parentstv.org/PTC/publications/reports/childrensstudy/main.asp[/url]

    ^That's Wolves in Sheep's Clothing.

    I still don't like the PTC.
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    • 12 years 8 months ago
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    I saw an Arthur episode that was similar to "Sailor Mouth" called "Bleep". You can never really tell what the word IS, because it's used in so many ways.

    Here's a link to part of the episode. It's sort of low quality, but...you get the idea.

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    • 12 years 8 months ago
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    I get a kick out of reading PTC's reviews!
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    • 12 years 8 months ago
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    I remember reading that the PTC got all up in arms when tv stations re-broadcast Live 8 footage and the chorus in the Who's Who Are You ("Who the fuck are you?") was aired uncensored. Buncha pansies. It's not like it aired at two in the afternoon.
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    • 12 years 8 months ago
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    Quote by mr3urious
    I get a kick out of reading PTC's reviews!


    So do I. I find it hilarious that on their archive page, it says their reviewers have "stomachs of steel". I guess they have to take some Pepto from viewing all that Desperate Housewives!
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    • 12 years 8 months ago
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    I remember hearing not too long ago that many local "concerned parents" groups copy and paste each other's banned books' lists for their websites. As such, you'll look at a bunch of these kinds of websites, and you'll notice that they're all banning the same books listed in the same order with the same spelling errors. Makes you wonder just how much thought these kinds of groups put into their knee-jerk campaigns.
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    • 12 years 1 month ago
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    And they also judge how good or bad a show is based on its content alone!

    Also, there was an explicit scene shown on the TV show Las Vegas that took place in a strip club, and PTC is bitching about it, even though it aired during watershed! They say that hundreds and thousands of children saw this scene, even though most of them were probably in bed by now!

    [url]http://www.parentstv.org/PTC/publications/release/2007/1214.asp[/url]
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    • 12 years 1 month ago
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    Quote by adventure_of_link
    Also there was an episode of Rugrats similar to Sailor Mouth... "The Word of the Day", iirc.


    Oh, yeah. I remember that!

    "What does Miss Sally think of her kids?"

    "SHE THINKS THEY'RE ALL LITTLE...-Insert random sound here-"

    Man I laughed my ass off at that episode.

    I think she was saying, "She thinks they're all little cunts".
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    • 12 years 1 month ago
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    What kills me is that the PTC act as if they're relevant.
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    • 12 years 1 month ago
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    Quote by Shaunbadia
    I think she was saying, "She thinks they're all little cunts".


    Really, I thought it was the f-bomb*

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    • 12 years 1 month ago
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    Quote by adventure_of_link
    Quote by Shaunbadia
    I think she was saying, "She thinks they're all little cunts".


    Really, I thought it was the f-bomb*

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    Mabey it was. I just find that "She thinks they're all little cunts" makes more sense than "She thinks they're all little fucks".
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    • 12 years 1 month ago
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    What ever happened to freedom of speech? These soccer-mom busybody-funded clowns need to quit messing with OUR entertainment and stop trying to ban everything! What ever happened to parents being allowed to block certain shows? Isn't THAT good enough? Besides, that episode was about NOT swearing, and didn't even use actual swears! I'm sorry, but crap like THIS just infuriates me. It's like the people who were trying to blame Power Rangers and DOOM for murders back in the '90s!
    • 11 years 3 months ago
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    Bumpity bumpity bump.
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