Thread: California school district bans flavored milk.

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    http://yourlife.usatoday.com/fitness-food/diet-nutrition/story/2011/06/LA-school-district-bans-chocolate-milk/48458176/1?csp=34news

    Thanks in part to Jamie Oliver Food Revolutions. I think a better solution would be to reduce the amount of sugar. The problem with this is many kids will just not drink the plain milk. BTW I never drank milk in school because I saw so many kids vomit off it. I drank orange juice instead.

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    They can make "light" chocolate milk. Banning chocolate milk isn't going to make kids who were spoon fed McDonalds since birth not be fat asses. If they want to fight childhood obesity, they need to dig a lot deeper than this. Sounds like more of a PR move than anything.
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    By 12th grade I was usually bringing my own drinks. Caffeine-Free Diet Pepsi was what I was drinking...I didn't get into drinking regular soda until I started my job at Wal-Mart. I feel sorry for the kids...They have very little say in what goes on at school. The cafeteria menu seems like the only thing that can afford them the freedom to decide what they want, but now those options are being taken away. I'm glad I got out of the system when I did.
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    Chocolate Milk? They need to ban sloppy joes.
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    Jamie Oliver is not a man. It's a whining British twat, sent by England to punish us.
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    Jamie Oliver is Australian.

    Anyway, as a kid as far as elementary school went, seems the only choices we had were whole milk, skim milk, and chocolate milk. That came with lunch. If you wanted stuff like orange juice, you had to pay extra for it. For me, I always drank the skim milk since that was all my mother had at home and I was just used to it.

    That aside, I don't see too much of a problem with it. Low-sugar stuff doesn't taste all that great anyway and if you want people to not have/drink certain things, might as well get rid of the temptation, and if the kids want certain drinks that badly, then let them bring it from home. Schools can't be responsible for it, I suppose, in that way.
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    Quote by SSJ_Jup81
    Jamie Oliver is Australian.

    Anyway, as a kid as far as elementary school went, seems the only choices we had were whole milk, skim milk, and chocolate milk. That came with lunch. If you wanted stuff like orange juice, you had to pay extra for it. For me, I always drank the skim milk since that was all my mother had at home and I was just used to it.

    That aside, I don't see too much of a problem with it. Low-sugar stuff doesn't taste all that great anyway and if you want people to not have/drink certain things, might as well get rid of the temptation, and if the kids want certain drinks that badly, then let them bring it from home. Schools can't be responsible for it, I suppose, in that way.


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    I think Jamie Oliver has some good an valid points! I don't see him as whining at all. If you got so many obese kids and someone's trying to step in and give them healthier menu items...then why are you complaining? Americans are so dumb. We sit back and complain and want to blame everyone else on what's going on in American and when someone comes in with a solution, we still complain! I mean get a frickin grip!

    Cafeteria food is mostly low grade garbage and the suppliers are the same companies that supply PRISONS with food...so this is what your kids are eating every day. And yeah you may have a few schools here in there that actually cook their ingredients besides bringing in trays and throwing them in a *microwave* oven. The food I had in public grade school 20+ years ago was like that. Bland, no seasoned, dried out..half frozen tv dinners...that were probably loaded with hidden fat and salt because that's how you preserve food that is not fresh.

    So I'm all up for someone who wants to step in and do the job these tyrants over the school board should be doing themselves. If you can come and and revamp menus, make them healthy and still taste good and be around the same price... who's against that? Only the people who are making the money by giving you cheaply processed garbage and who have contracts with these companies. So if you want your kids to have diabetes, high blood pressure, obesity and whatever other health problems for the sake of politics than go ahead and let the schools continue what they are doing.
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    Is there some law preventing parents from making lunches for their kids like they used to do? My elementary school didn't have a cafeteria, we all carried lunchboxes to school.
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    Quote by Pinwheel
    I think Jamie Oliver has some good an valid points! I don't see him as whining at all. If you got so many obese kids and someone's trying to step in and give them healthier menu items...then why are you complaining? Americans are so dumb. We sit back and complain and want to blame everyone else on what's going on in American and when someone comes in with a solution, we still complain! I mean get a frickin grip!

    Cafeteria food is mostly low grade garbage and the suppliers are the same companies that supply PRISONS with food...so this is what your kids are eating every day. And yeah you may have a few schools here in there that actually cook their ingredients besides bringing in trays and throwing them in a *microwave* oven. The food I had in public grade school 20+ years ago was like that. Bland, no seasoned, dried out..half frozen tv dinners...that were probably loaded with hidden fat and salt because that's how you preserve food that is not fresh.

    So I'm all up for someone who wants to step in and do the job these tyrants over the school board should be doing themselves. If you can come and and revamp menus, make them healthy and still taste good and be around the same price... who's against that? Only the people who are making the money by giving you cheaply processed garbage and who have contracts with these companies. So if you want your kids to have diabetes, high blood pressure, obesity and whatever other health problems for the sake of politics than go ahead and let the schools continue what they are doing.


    No, this Jamie guy sounds like an idiot. It should be the parent's responsibility to ensure their child has a healthy diet, not the government or some school board.
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    i'm glade it's not at every school, i feel sorry for them-my advice , move the heck out at shoot that dumbass or starting that crap
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    Very coherent.
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    Fyi Its not the school lunches that are making kids obese. Its the sweets, sodas, and pizzas that they scarf down at the house. Rather than COOK, parents buy things high in carbs, fat and sugar that you can heat in the microwave or throw in an oven for 15 minutes or they just skip that and go to taco bell or Mc D's. I like Jamie as a chef and have enjoyed his cooking shows, but he's off base with this.
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    Quote by bassman21
    http://yourlife.usatoday.com/fitness-food/diet-nutrition/story/2011/06/LA-school-district-bans-chocolate-milk/48458176/1?csp=34news

    Thanks in part to Jamie Oliver Food Revolutions. I think a better solution would be to reduce the amount of sugar. The problem with this is many kids will just not drink the plain milk. BTW I never drank milk in school because I saw so many kids vomit off it. I drank orange juice instead.

    Thoughts?

    There's nothing wrong with (low fat) chocolate milk (in moderation). My guess is that a lot of kids won't drink the plain milk, and this just means they'll get less calcium. I say let the kids decide! Sounds like a dumb plan to me... but then it is California. Bean sprouts and tofu for everyone!
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    Quote by Pinwheel
    I think Jamie Oliver has some good an valid points! I don't see him as whining at all. If you got so many obese kids and someone's trying to step in and give them healthier menu items...then why are you complaining? Americans are so dumb. We sit back and complain and want to blame everyone else on what's going on in American and when someone comes in with a solution, we still complain! I mean get a frickin grip!

    Cafeteria food is mostly low grade garbage and the suppliers are the same companies that supply PRISONS with food...so this is what your kids are eating every day. And yeah you may have a few schools here in there that actually cook their ingredients besides bringing in trays and throwing them in a *microwave* oven. The food I had in public grade school 20+ years ago was like that. Bland, no seasoned, dried out..half frozen tv dinners...that were probably loaded with hidden fat and salt because that's how you preserve food that is not fresh.

    So I'm all up for someone who wants to step in and do the job these tyrants over the school board should be doing themselves. If you can come and and revamp menus, make them healthy and still taste good and be around the same price... who's against that? Only the people who are making the money by giving you cheaply processed garbage and who have contracts with these companies. So if you want your kids to have diabetes, high blood pressure, obesity and whatever other health problems for the sake of politics than go ahead and let the schools continue what they are doing.


    No, this Jamie guy sounds like an idiot. It should be the parent's responsibility to ensure their child has a healthy diet, not the government or some school board.
    Exactly. Get rid of the mess in schools, and let the parents decide what they want their kids drinking. What's wrong with that?
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    Yeah, so they can choose those sugary concentrate juices over low fat chocolate milk. Great idea Jamie Oliver! Seriously, why not just offer water if you're going to make an idiot suggestion like that.

    Edit: Read the article after my comment and I'm glad they addressed the same things I said. Milk has protein and fats in it, it helps you process the sugar, unlike pure juice.
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    In private school we had decaffeinated iced tea and it was great, but of course didn't give us vitamin D and calcium. There is calcium enriched orange juice they could provide as an alternative. Or they could offer just plain filtered water for those that like to drink it. It's really best to offer choices and the kids will be less likely to drink the same thing every day. One problem with sugary drinks and whole milk is they take away the child appetite to eat as much foods. Low fat milk would be a better choice both in plain and flavored.

    As for Jamie Oliver, I like what he is doing, but making school lunches into health foods is not the answer. Instead just improve the quality of food and offer more choices. One problem with school lunches; to meet the federal guidelines and keep the cost down they have to buy highly processed low grade foods. There is limited money offered by the states for free or reduced lunches.

    The argument to improve school foods is in part because many kids particularly low income eat 2 of their 3 meals a day at school. Then at night their parents feed them crap if anything at all. A poor diet just isn't about weight, it is about the childs overall health. Students do better in school and at home when they have balanced meal.

    Anyway flavored milk should stay, but more choices should be offered.
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    I haven't watched it since the first season, does he disect the lunches sent in from HOME at all? quite honestly some of the crap our parents sent us when we were younger wasn't exactly healthy either LOL just maybe some of you were more active or ate balanced meals for breakfast and dinner. Little Debbies, ecto cooler, lunchables, not exactly the healthiest.
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    When I graduated back in 2009 I can tell you now that my school in Pennsylvania had milk to drink and that was it unless you wanted to pay extra for a bottle of water. They still have a soda machine and snack machine. But what they got rid of made no sense. They got rid of a machine that offered milk and tea in bottle form. Yeah I understand that the milk had fat and the tea has sugar but I am sure it is a heck of lot better than soda and snacks from the vending machines.
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