Thread: BEST/ WORST TV DADS

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    BEST
    Mike Evans---Good Times
    Julius--Everybody Hates Chris

    WORST
    Fred Sanford
    Archie Bunker
    Herman Munster
    George Jefferson
    Carl Winslow--Family Matters
    Clevland Brown
    Joe Swanson
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    TO VHSer:

    Hank Hill is an idiot and embodies all the worst characteristics of the middle class male. Right wing, god-fearing, close minded, reactionary, culturally blind. Yes, these indeed qualities of a good father. It seems as if Mike Judge is making fun of these types of people. In my opinion it is these types to people who are terrorified of change or progreess. They are the propogaters of all that the mediocrity in the world.
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    Best:

    Dan Conner
    Cliff Huxtable
    Homer Simpson
    Danny Tanner
    Mike Brady
    Tony Micelli
    "Uncle" Phillip Banks
    Professor Utonium
    Scrooge McDuck

    Borderline:

    Al Bundy
    Carl Winslow
    The fathers on Rugrats minus one (you'll see who)

    Worst:

    Peter Griffin
    Francis Griffin
    Abraham Simpson
    Drew Pickles
    Dan Scott
    Cow and Chicken's Dad
    Jesse Katsopolis (confused? Don't be. He placed Michelle on a high pedestal than anyone else, including his wife, children and other nieces.)
    Dad from Dexter's Lab
    Timmy Turner's Dad
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    Quote by slappywag
    TO VHSer:

    Hank Hill is an idiot and embodies all the worst characteristics of the middle class male. Right wing, god-fearing, close minded, reactionary, culturally blind. Yes, these indeed qualities of a good father. It seems as if Mike Judge is making fun of these types of people. In my opinion it is these types to people who are terrorified of change or progreess. They are the propogaters of all that the mediocrity in the world.


    No.
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    Best:

    Danny Tanner
    Micheal Taylor & Joey Harris (My 2 Dads)
    Howard Cunningham
    Coach Hayden Fox
    Mike Brady

    Worst:

    Ray Barone
    Frank Costanza
    Al Bundy
    Archie Bunker
    Derek Morris (Saved by the Bell
    meh
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    P.S.

    Hank Hill is white trash. All his pricples about "patriotism" are primitive and moronic. He reminds of the character Boxer in Animal Farm who never once questions the principles of the prevailing power even as he has sold to the local glue factory. I think there are a lot of Hank Hills in this country who in another era believed fierecely that the world as flat and the earth was the center of the universe because their leaders told them so.
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    Quote by slappywag
    P.S.

    Hank Hill is white trash. All his pricples about "patriotism" are primitive and moronic. He reminds of the character Boxer in Animal Farm who never once questions the principles of the prevailing power even as he has sold to the local glue factory. I think there are a lot of Hank Hills in this country who in another era believed fierecely that the world as flat and the earth was the center of the universe because their leaders told them so.


    Please shut up before you make yourself sound like an even bigger douche.
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    Quote by slappywag
    P.S.

    Hank Hill is white trash. All his pricples about "patriotism" are primitive and moronic. He reminds of the character Boxer in Animal Farm who never once questions the principles of the prevailing power even as he has sold to the local glue factory. I think there are a lot of Hank Hills in this country who in another era believed fierecely that the world as flat and the earth was the center of the universe because their leaders told them so.
    You are a fucking idiot. First off, there are tons of episodes where Hank has problems with the government, and he never just lets them slide. I can think of at least five episodes right of the top of my head when he's arguing against some stupid new rule or system. Second, just because somebody's patriotic, that doesn't mean they're blindly patriotic - there is a big difference between the two that some people like you don't realize. Here's a mind-blowing fact: you can actually like your country and still be a free thinker! Wow, amazing, isn't it!?! If you actually watched King of the Hill, you might understand that even though Hank is one of those old type conservative Americans, the only old-fashioned practices he follows are, you know, the ones that make sense. The few episodes I've ever seen where I haven't agreed with him are the ones where he's wrong, and realizes that in the end, and I assure you I am not some stereotypical stupid southern white trash hick (and neither is Hank).

    I was actually going to say Hank Hill if I had posted in this thread, I think somebody called him the "wisest person on television" and I agree with that. He really understands the world more than a lot of other characters, and isn't afraid to speak out against the bullshit.
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    Quote by slappywag
    P.S.

    Hank Hill is white trash. All his pricples about "patriotism" are primitive and moronic. He reminds of the character Boxer in Animal Farm who never once questions the principles of the prevailing power even as he has sold to the local glue factory. I think there are a lot of Hank Hills in this country who in another era believed fierecely that the world as flat and the earth was the center of the universe because their leaders told them so.
    You are a fucking idiot. First off, there are tons of episodes where Hank has problems with the government, and he never just lets them slide. I can think of at least five episodes right of the top of my head when he's arguing against some stupid new rule or system. Second, just because somebody's patriotic, that doesn't mean they're blindly patriotic - there is a big difference between the two that some people like you don't realize. Here's a mind-blowing fact: you can actually like your country and still be a free thinker! Wow, amazing, isn't it!?! If you actually watched King of the Hill, you might understand that even though Hank is one of those old type conservative Americans, the only old-fashioned practices he follows are, you know, the ones that make sense. The few episodes I've ever seen where I haven't agreed with him are the ones where he's wrong, and realizes that in the end, and I assure you I am not some stereotypical stupid southern white trash hick (and neither is Hank).

    I was actually going to say Hank Hill if I had posted in this thread, I think somebody called him the "wisest person on television" and I agree with that. He really understands the world more than a lot of other characters, and isn't afraid to speak out against the bullshit.


    Oh my brother TESTIFY.

    For real I 100% agree.
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    Good-
    Carl Winslow


    Bad-
    Father Urkel-Steves dad
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    Quote by 1983bowtiebeater

    Bad-
    Father Urkel-Steves dad


    Hmmm that's a pretty good one. Though we never see him judging from a lot of what Steve Urkel has said, he does seem pretty crappy.

    I got one more to add to the worst list, that I can't believe I forgot to mention in the first place and not just the father, I mean BOTH parents.

    Butter's parents from South Park.

    They have to be the ones to be considered without question the worst of all the TV parents we've mentioned here. They ground poor Butters for things that aren't his fault like for example "making a face" on his school picture (which he didn't) or being voted "the ugliest kid in class" (Butters was number 11, so his parents didn't have to ground him). Plus not to mention it's been shown that they have in some cases actually beaten their son.

    Oh yeah and let's not forget they also tried to MURDER poor Butters in "Butter's own episode."

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    Quote by Old_school_JJ
    Quote by 1983bowtiebeater

    Bad-
    Father Urkel-Steves dad


    Hmmm that's a pretty good one. Though we never see him judging from a lot of what Steve Urkel has said, he does seem pretty crappy.

    I got one more to add to the worst list, that I can't believe I forgot to mention in the first place and not just the father, I mean BOTH parents.

    Butter's parents from South Park.

    They have to be the ones to be considered without question the worst of all the TV parents we've mentioned here. They ground poor Butters for things that aren't his fault like for example "making a face" on his school picture (which he didn't) or being voted "the ugliest kid in class" (Butters was number 11, so his parents didn't have to ground him). Plus not to mention it's been shown that they have in some cases actually beaten their son.

    Oh yeah and let's not forget they also tried to MURDER poor Butters in "Butter's own episode."



    Good point I feel bad for him.

    My friends last name is butterworth and we call him Butters because his first name is the same as my brothers. He is grounded too but never beaten. I hope

    I think Butters parents are almost as funny as Randy and Sharon. Butters dad also was caught at that gay sex club too if I recall
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    altime fave dad is danny tanner gotta luv him
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    Oh, my yes to Butter's parents. I want to punch his dad over and over again for being a douche (much like Randy Marsh, except without the humor and allure) and then slap his mom for putting up with his b.s.
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    I won't bother mentioning people from series I didn't watch or care for. There are a lot of characters that should be on the lists (like Tony Soprano), but, meh...

    Best:

    Danny Tanner (best ever, perhaps?)
    Uncle Jesse was pretty good, too
    Red Forman
    Howard Cunningham
    Dan Connor

    Worst:

    Archie Bunker
    Homer Simpson
    Peter Griffin
    Hank Hill (and his equally tight-assed father, Cotton)
    Al Bundy


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    I can understand how people would think Archie Bunker was a bad dad, but what's wrong with Hank Hill ? He's one of the best dads on tv. And why is Al Bundy on the bad list ? Anything that's wrong with him is Peggy's fault.
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    Most of the parents that have been mentioned for worst really aren't that bad overall. I'm guessing you guys must of had some kind of almost perfect dad like a Cliff Huxtable or something, which (not bashing on my own father here) but I certainly didn't. Here's why...

    Al Bundy-The dude gets annoyed by his family, but if you actually watch the show, he sometimes goes out of his way to get his wife and kids stuff they need and want. Sadly though, they prove to be very ungratful, like in the christmas episodes.

    Archie Bunker-There's no doubt he loves his daughter, Gloria, and his grandson, Joey. He even started to devolp a love for his "son in law" Mike aka Meathead. Sure he's a bigoit, but he's still an overall caring father.

    Hank Hill-Loves Bobby, but just has a hard time connecting with him.

    Homer Simpson- Does dumb things, but still cares deeply for his kids.
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    Quote by Old_school_JJ

    Archie Bunker-There's no doubt he loves his daughter, Gloria, and his grandson, Joey. He even started to devolp a love for his "son in law" Mike aka Meathead. Sure he's a bigoit, but he's still an overall caring father.

    Hank Hill-Loves Bobby, but just has a hard time connecting with him.



    The thing to understand about Hank and Archie is they're a product of their time and their environment. In Hank's case he grew up in the Deep South with a very He-Man mentality father and the same attitudes are very common in his friends. The whole touchy feel in touch with your feminine side thing doesn't really fly in his world.

    Archie Bunker was born in a time when segregation and racist attitudes were very much a fact of life and were always presented as right. Even in the North while Jim Crow Laws may not have been officially on the books things like "redlining" where bank managers would mark out "poor" neighborhoods with a red marker and refuse to invest in businesses or mortgage loans for people living there, and "sundowning", suburbs where people of color were prevented (sometimes officially) from entering after sundown and even then they were usually only allowed during the day if they were working as gardeners, cleaning ladies, or delivery men. It wasn't until the 60s and 70s when this status quo was being challenged.
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    ^^Excatly and that doesn't make them "bad fathers" either. Their both VERY loving and caring of their kids, they just don't agree with their kids say and do. But again that DOESN'T make them "bad fathers."

    I can somewhat understand Homer Simpson, cause he says and does things that are fairly "insenstive" but at the end of the day (especially during the first six or seven seasons) he would try REALLY hard and show a loving and tenderness to his kids, making him an overally pretty darn good dad.

    Like I said the only ones I would honestly say are "bad TV dads" are Peter Griffen from Family Guy (actually you can also add Brian Griffen and Glen Quagmire to that list as well) and Mr. Scoth: Butter's dad on South Park. That's the only ones I can think of that are truly bad fathers.

    I honestly believe Hank Hill is actually a pretty damn good father. I don't see why people keep mentioning him as among the "worst" no one here has given a good example as to why either, not one.
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    The best dads are Corey Mathew's Dad from Boy Meets World and Clark Kent's dad from Smallville.
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