Thread: Do We Just Get Too Old to Connect With New Cartoons?

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    • 9 years 4 months ago
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    Too many of us, it seems that networks like Nickelodeon have gone downhill over the years. But, sometimes I wonder if these networks simply have to re-brand themselves every so often to keep up with the next generation of kids. And when this happens, the previous generation loses there connection with the networks. There are people who are 80s kids here and dont really like the 90s shows as much, then theres 90s kids, like me, that dont care much for the 2000's shows.

    I saw this news story a while ago, showing how Nickelodeon has dominated in ratings for 2009. So, if its so bad why are they doing so good? And I agree with most people here that Nick is nothing like it was.
    http://www.redorbit.com/news/entertainment/1802666/nickelodeon_is_2009s_topranked_cable_network/index.html

    Some of you will argue, theres nothing else on. They're just the best of whats available. But I have seen some of my younger family who is still the cartoon watching age. They seem to be liking what is on TV today. Will the 2000's kids soon start complaining about how crappy shows are in the 2010s?
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    • 9 years 4 months ago
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    cartoons went downhill after my show went off the air TV just is not worth watching now.
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    Nope.

    It's cause we were smarterer than kids these days. We liked smart cartoons like Transformers and My Little Pony. Now these stupid kids today watch dumb lazy cartoons like Avatar: The Last Airbender and South Park.

    We're better cuz we're older

    [/end obnoxious sarcasm]

    Basically you're right. Shows get canceled, new shows get a little different from decade to decade (though honestly not by much), life goes on in the cycles its accustomed to.
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    Quote by DMoney89
    Nope.

    It's cause we were smarterer than kids these days. We liked smart cartoons like Transformers and My Little Pony. Now these stupid kids today watch dumb lazy cartoons like Avatar: The Last Airbender and South Park.

    We're better cuz we're older

    [/end obnoxious sarcasm]

    Basically you're right. Shows get canceled, new shows get a little different from decade to decade (though honestly not by much), life goes on in the cycles its accustomed to.


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    Quote by DMoney89
    Nope.

    It's cause we were smarterer than kids these days. We liked smart cartoons like Transformers and My Little Pony. Now these stupid kids today watch dumb lazy cartoons like Avatar: The Last Airbender and South Park.

    We're better cuz we're older

    [/end obnoxious sarcasm]

    Basically you're right. Shows get canceled, new shows get a little different from decade to decade (though honestly not by much), life goes on in the cycles its accustomed to.


    I bet you liked Waynehead and C-Bear and Jamal


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    I watch new episodes of South Park and still think they're great. I don't tend to watch most new cartoons geared towards kids. Sometimes I watch Word Girl on PBS cause a comedian I like Maria Bamford does voicework on that show.
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    • 9 years 4 months ago
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    I think that todays cartoons pretty much suck but that's just my opinion. I miss 80's AND 90'S cartoons and old Nickelodeon when it had Doug, Rugrats, Real Monsters, Roco's Modern Life and Hey Arnold. God I'm getting old, lol.
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    • 9 years 4 months ago
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    Great topic and yeah, it's very different now. I began watching cartoons from very little, in the 70's. My very first cartoon, I THINK, was Astro Boy, the original, and it was in Spanish, believe it or not! From then, so many came and I am currently working up the courage to write a great article about it, but I digress. I think what has happened is what a lot of people have said already. Let's face it, gang, we've grown up and a lot of these new toons just don't do it for us anymore. They don't make us think, they're just....THERE. Take Chowder, the animation is great and all but it's mostly just sight gags and cornball humor. I'm starting to come around Chowder a little...but I still think it's nowhere near as awesome as any of the 80's Saturday Morning toons.
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    • 9 years 4 months ago
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    Kids today love "their" cartoons because that's all they have and they can't realy compare it to anything else. I'm and 80's kid, but during that time...we had our new cartoons like He'Man, Transformers, G.I. Joe, Heathcliff, etc.. but also we had USA cartoon express, showing toons from the 80's back to the 60's, the Disney Channel, airing their old toons going back to the 1940's, old skool Looney Toons, etc.

    These kids nowadays can't relate to anything out of their own decade, because networks refuse to show the old stuff..i guess because it's not politically correct or they think that kids are too dumb to enjoy something that references technology pre 2000. I mean i enjoyed Looney Tunes and such although they were dated, even in the 80's, with references to WW2, jazz bands, etc.
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    I think that's rubbish, my mother really enjoyed the show Rocko's Modern Life when it was on.

    I've been keeping an eye on Nick and I actually really liked the show Ned's Declassified. (I know it's not a cartoon, but it appeals to the same demographic.)

    The problem with NIck is that it used to be a local channel that had people who cared about what they showed.

    Since Nick has become this giant franchise, during the mid 90s, it has become a self important money obsessed company.

    Nick once had a purpose, to show entertaining and educational shows for kids, that purpose changed when they became successful and new managers came along.
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    • 9 years 3 months ago
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    Quote by Pinwheel
    These kids nowadays can't relate to anything out of their own decade, because networks refuse to show the old stuff..i guess because it's not politically correct or they think that kids are too dumb to enjoy something that references technology pre 2000. I mean i enjoyed Looney Tunes and such although they were dated, even in the 80's, with references to WW2, jazz bands, etc.


    I used to watch a lot of the old Looney Tunes, etc when I was younger. Cartoon Network ran them a lot in the 90s. These shows had a lot of child humor that wasnt really generation specific, such as Wiley Coyote's plans always backfiring and usually involving him getting hurt.

    Nick used to always have this general sort of feeling that it was run by kids, sort of like rebelling against adults at times. I cant really explain it, but thats how it felt.

    My point in posting was, Nick's ratings are still great so they have no reason to worry. Thats basically all the tv business is, especially nowadays with big companies who own many channels.
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    • 9 years 3 months ago
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    I think we get a bit more picky. We still like them but to some extent.

    Many cartoons that I'm fond off were made around my teen years and afterwards.
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    Quote by tyrusspunk
    Too many of us, it seems that networks like Nickelodeon have gone downhill over the years. But, sometimes I wonder if these networks simply have to re-brand themselves every so often to keep up with the next generation of kids. And when this happens, the previous generation loses there connection with the networks. There are people who are 80s kids here and dont really like the 90s shows as much, then theres 90s kids, like me, that dont care much for the 2000's shows.

    I saw this news story a while ago, showing how Nickelodeon has dominated in ratings for 2009. So, if its so bad why are they doing so good? And I agree with most people here that Nick is nothing like it was.
    http://www.redorbit.com/news/entertainment/1802666/nickelodeon_is_2009s_topranked_cable_network/index.html

    Some of you will argue, theres nothing else on. They're just the best of whats available. But I have seen some of my younger family who is still the cartoon watching age. They seem to be liking what is on TV today. Will the 2000's kids soon start complaining about how crappy shows are in the 2010s?


    The thing is we aren't the market for Nickelodeon anymore the current generation of kids is. Nickelodeon has always been a kids network. Sure they might have threw in a little Parental Bonus in their cartoons but kids pretty much rule the roost on `Nick. And well the stuff we may have found hip and funny back in the day isn't the same as what today's kids find hip or funny.

    Like with TinyToons would somebody born long after the fact find gags about George Bush Sr. and Dan Quayle funny with no real frame of reference to them outside of a history book? It's like trying to read political cartoons from the 1800s. They'd also think Who's Sinead O'Connor and Why is she worthy of being parodied outside of being bald? or What's up with that muscular dog and his goofy accent? Cartoons of the `80s and `90s were a product of the culture of the time. Sure some of the basic elements such as dude gets wanged in the head are still funny but the pop culture stuff would go over the heads of younger viewers just finding it today.

    As for today's cartoons being merchandise driven, Cartoons have been that way for years. Complaining about it now is like closing the barndoor after the horse has already busted out of the pasture and is on it's way to the glue factory.
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    • 9 years 3 months ago
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    This last decade also produced Spongebob, Jimmy Neutron, Fairly Odd Parents and many others from Nick. My point is I have been watching cartoons on nick with my children since the early 90's. What nick has produced over the last 20 years is better than most of what I grew up with in the 70's. However, the early cartoons like Tom and Jerry and all the early Disney and Warner Brothers stuff is still the best. Hanna Barbera ruled the 70's and except for a couple of shows it SUCKED. Though I do miss the Saturday morning format.
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    • 9 years 3 months ago
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    Damn i hated that stupid road runner! I wished Wiley Coyote would just catch and roast that fcker.
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    Dmoney's right, we think differently as kids- some shows don't age well
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    Quote by Felixthecat34213
    Damn i hated that stupid road runner! I wished Wiley Coyote would just catch and roast that fcker.


    Same thing with Tom and Jerry!
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    • 9 years 3 months ago
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    The writing in the new cartoon is just bad. The characters seem to have 3 or 4 lines and then nothing but slapstick animation filler for 5 minutes.
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    • 9 years 3 months ago
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    If you try not to grow out of being able to connect to new cartoons (like I do), you won't.
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