Thread: Should foreigners learn basic English to live in America?

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    Quote by liukangx
    I don't get why Spanish is so "popular",why isn't Japanese?

    Mexicans, obviously.
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    There is no official US language. Every legislation regarding a national language (mostly German and Spanish) has been shot down (sometimes by a small margin.) For good reason. I think it goes against what this country stands for. This country would become a cesspool of language trends and bigoted natives. I've been the victim of countries who have national languages, it's horrible. No matter how fluent you are, if they even hear you speaking another language in public, they gang up on you. Or, in the case of countries that have multiple official languages, they waste so much communication time trying to agree on one.

    A lot of Americans do not speak English as their first language, but you'd be surprised how many of them learn. Only 12% of the population can't speak any English, which is less than the number of immigrants. When you live in a foreign country, you find out quickly that you can't survive without learning at least one other language, whether it be the national language or a popular language in that country. The people that choose to be bastards suffer the consequences.
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    Quote by liukangx
    I don't get why Spanish is so "popular",why isn't Japanese?

    Mexicans, obviously.


    But seriously I would rather speak a language of more successful people.
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    Quote by liukangx
    I don't get why Spanish is so "popular",why isn't Japanese?

    Because there are so many immigrants from Spanish-speaking countries, the main ones probably being Cuba, Mexico, and Puerto Rico.
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    Quote by Sunriser
    There is no official US language. Every legislation regarding a national language (mostly German and Spanish) has been shot down (sometimes by a small margin.) For good reason. I think it goes against what this country stands for. This country would become a cesspool of language trends and bigoted natives. I've been the victim of countries who have national languages, it's horrible. No matter how fluent you are, if they even hear you speaking another language in public, they gang up on you. Or, in the case of countries that have multiple official languages, they waste so much communication time trying to agree on one.
    Thanks for this. This is what I was trying to say earlier.
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    Quote by liukangx
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    Quote by liukangx
    I don't get why Spanish is so "popular",why isn't Japanese?

    Mexicans, obviously.


    But seriously I would rather speak a language of more successful people.


    What?
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    Quote by Ilikethepixies
    Why is it that the dumber the person, the more patriotic they are?

    I'm looking in your general direction jango.

    Speak whatever the hell you want to speak.


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    Quote by liukangx
    I don't get why Spanish is so "popular",why isn't Japanese?



    Because Japan is so far away and Spanish is spoken right here in North America.

    The fascination with Japan and Japanese culture kinda makes me laugh because it's almost always just the anime fans who wanna learn the language.
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    Here, where i live, we have a massive population of immigrants from India. There are a LOT of them who can't even speak passable English. Why? Because they don't need to, many store signs are in punjabi or hindi, they have a couple of hindi radio and TV stations and you can take citizenship and driver's license tests in a myriad of different languages. The problem that arises is segregation. What has happened is that when new Indian people come here, they automatically move into the predominantly Indian neighborhoods and bring their old-world values (honor killings, wife beating, racism, etc.) with them and they never feel the need to integrate into our society the way you would think immigrants would want to.
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    I don't have a problem with it. Many institutions, firms, community colleges, and technical schools require people to take a basic skills test (basic math, reading, and writing).
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    Seeing a lot of the stuff Japan, You are going to want to be in business with some of their companies.
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    Any country you go to live you need to know the language period. Go to Mexico and see how far you get speaking english besides at the resorts.
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    Quote by liukangx
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    Mexicans, obviously.


    But seriously I would rather speak a language of more successful people.


    What?

    My thoughts exactly.. Being Mexican.. LoL
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    Why is that its the one language that is taught the most?
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    Here in Australia the official language is English but because there are so many immigrants here, you'll find a lot of migrant services and pamphlets printed in multiple languages. At school, children learn at least one language other than English. I learnt French, my sister did German, my husband did Indonesian, my friends took Italian classes. But if you want to get anywhere in business or a career, you'd best learn English. My cousins in Europe learnt it as a 'universal language' to get good jobs.
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    Quote by tbondrage99
    So much for the land of the free then...
    I'm British but 'land of the free' refers to the fact they are not slaves or oppressed I think. Some person coming and screwing the culture up by not intergrating is not included in that.
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    Quote by liukangx
    I don't get why Spanish is so "popular",why isn't Japanese?



    Because Japan is so far away and Spanish is spoken right here in North America.

    The fascination with Japan and Japanese culture kinda makes me laugh because it's almost always just the anime fans who wanna learn the language.
    I dunno...seems they're the ones who don't want to properly learn it and I'm only referring to the, "Ooo, I can say sugoi" types or the ones who try to learn all of their Japanese through anime.
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    Quote by Ilikethepixies
    My point was that it wasn't him out there fighting the British.

    He has no right to criticize anyone else.
    No I wasn't fighting the British but there have been other sacrifices over time besides the Revolutionary War how about the Civil War,Civil Rights Movement, etc.

    I have NOT critized anyone...I just feel its in the best interest for foreigners to learn English.To make their lives even better while they are here.

    Sometimes you have to conform to America (by learning English) instead of waiting for it to conform to you.

    I'll admit I don't like the people who come here who take advantage of America's freedoms and oppurtunities but still live in their own communities like they did in their old country.I consider them leeches.
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    How are they leeches? Are they working here legally and earning their money legally? The ones you get on for that are illegal immigrants.

    As I pointed out, we do not have a national language officially. Why else would it not be a requirement for people to learn English before coming here?

    I still feel it's due to the fact that this is, indeed, an immigrant country filled with people with many different backgrounds.
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    they dont have to learn because our "p.c." government caters to them.....for example "for English please press one" uugghhh?!?!?!?!
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