Thread: Should foreigners learn basic English to live in America?

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    • 11 years 4 months ago
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    Quote by SSJ_Jup81
    Even though that would be nice, the thing is that the US doesn't have a national language. It's nice when those who move here try to learn the language, but as someone else mentioned they shouldn't be "forced" to learn the language. Now if English was literally our national language, then I'd say yeah...they should. Overall, those who want to learn it, definitely will seek it out anyway.
    The official language is English..look it up.
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    I remember I was waiting in line for something (maybe it was banking business) and the kid was the translator for the mom.He was only 8 and trying to explain this adult situation and it took so long.If the mom knew some basic English there would have been no problem.

    What I am saying is what if they got into an accident and the translator was unconcious and they were in the middle of nowhere.
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    Quote by Wave_Motion_Gun
    Quote by tbondrage99
    So much for the land of the free then...
    You have to earn it and learning basic English is less sacrifice than what others did for this country.


    What have you, in particular, done to ensure our freedom that places you in a position of superiority to someone that speaks another language?
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    Quote by Ilikethepixies
    Quote by Wave_Motion_Gun
    Quote by tbondrage99
    So much for the land of the free then...
    You have to earn it and learning basic English is less sacrifice than what others did for this country.


    What have you, in particular, done to ensure our freedom that places you in a position of superiority to someone that speaks another language?
    He said "did." That's obviously past tense.

    Besides, we all learned English. That's exactly what people should expect of foreigners that intend to live here. If you don't wanna learn English, fine, but you shouldn't just walk into a store and assume there's somebody behind the counter who knows Spanish, or whatever it is you might speak. I can tell you firsthand that one of the most difficult parts of my job is when somebody comes up to me and starts placing an order in some other language, figuring that I know it for some reason.
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    My point was that it wasn't him out there fighting the British.

    He has no right to criticize anyone else.
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    We just need to make a brand spankin new language all together and teach it to EVERYBODY everywhere.

    Problem solved
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    Quote by DMoney89
    We just need to make a brand spankin new language all together and teach it to EVERYBODY everywhere.

    Problem solved


    It's been tried with Esperanto. It failed.
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    Really, if we did that with any language, I think it should be English... not to sound biased or anything, but I think that's the most universally known language as it is.

    My second choice would be Latin, because even though it's not a lot of people's first language, it's where just about all of the European languages came from...
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    Quote by Wave_Motion_Gun
    Quote by SSJ_Jup81
    Even though that would be nice, the thing is that the US doesn't have a national language. It's nice when those who move here try to learn the language, but as someone else mentioned they shouldn't be "forced" to learn the language. Now if English was literally our national language, then I'd say yeah...they should. Overall, those who want to learn it, definitely will seek it out anyway.
    The official language is English..look it up.
    It may be common knowledge that it's the one spoken here officially, but to my knowledge, it's not considered our national language anyplace legally or something, and that's probably due to the fact that this is an immigrant country.
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    Spanish is most commonly spoken in the US these days, not English. Media sources outside the US have reported this, like the BBC. So perhaps you should all learn Spanish -)

    My father immigrated to Australia knowing no English at all. He could speak Polish, Croatian, Serbian, Russian, Italian and German so one more language was going to be easy- wrong! He said English was the hardest language to learn out of any of them. He taught himself English by learning one word a day, reciting it even when sitting in the bathroom! He taught himself to read it too, so he could read the building specs for contracts he entered into with the state government.

    Some of his friends who immigrated later didn't bother trying to learn the language and always came over with documents for him to translate until he finally told them to sign up for frickin English classes. See, it's the official language here and to get by, you should learn it.

    If you immigrated to France you would have to learn French. If you immigrated to the Tiwi Islands you'd learn the local Aboriginal dialect. So why not the US? I do recall being told English is the official language, having narrowly beaten German for the prize.
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    Illegals immigrants don't count.
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    Quote by madcatter
    Spanish is most commonly spoken in the US these days, not English. Media sources outside the US have reported this, like the BBC. So perhaps you should all learn Spanish -)

    My father immigrated to Australia knowing no English at all. He could speak Polish, Croatian, Serbian, Russian, Italian and German so one more language was going to be easy- wrong! He said English was the hardest language to learn out of any of them. He taught himself English by learning one word a day, reciting it even when sitting in the bathroom! He taught himself to read it too, so he could read the building specs for contracts he entered into with the state government.

    Some of his friends who immigrated later didn't bother trying to learn the language and always came over with documents for him to translate until he finally told them to sign up for frickin English classes. See, it's the official language here and to get by, you should learn it.

    If you immigrated to France you would have to learn French. If you immigrated to the Tiwi Islands you'd learn the local Aboriginal dialect. So why not the US? I do recall being told English is the official language, having narrowly beaten German for the prize.


    In Texas they are now requiring two years of foreign language for most high school students. They are also requiring more fine arts classes and less health and PE too. This wasn't required when I was in school. I think it's a good idea (except taking health away), but shouldn't stand in the way if a student is struggling in other subjects. So I agree we should teach our youth a foreign language, but to require it to be Spanish would be unfair.
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    Quote by bassman21
    Quote by madcatter
    Spanish is most commonly spoken in the US these days, not English. Media sources outside the US have reported this, like the BBC. So perhaps you should all learn Spanish -)

    My father immigrated to Australia knowing no English at all. He could speak Polish, Croatian, Serbian, Russian, Italian and German so one more language was going to be easy- wrong! He said English was the hardest language to learn out of any of them. He taught himself English by learning one word a day, reciting it even when sitting in the bathroom! He taught himself to read it too, so he could read the building specs for contracts he entered into with the state government.

    Some of his friends who immigrated later didn't bother trying to learn the language and always came over with documents for him to translate until he finally told them to sign up for frickin English classes. See, it's the official language here and to get by, you should learn it.

    If you immigrated to France you would have to learn French. If you immigrated to the Tiwi Islands you'd learn the local Aboriginal dialect. So why not the US? I do recall being told English is the official language, having narrowly beaten German for the prize.


    In Texas they are now requiring two years of foreign language for most high school students. They are also requiring more fine arts classes and less health and PE too. This wasn't required when I was in school. I think it's a good idea (except taking health away), but shouldn't stand in the way if a student is struggling in other subjects. So I agree we should teach our youth a foreign language, but to require it to be Spanish would be unfair.


    Well this is the problem, Spanish and French are normally the only options and most of the politically correct teachers and schools are trying to enforce Spanish. I took 2 years of Spanish and I didn't have any interests in the subject (let alone I don't like supporting the idea of easing on illegal immigrants) and there fore I didn't keep any of the information in my brain. I felt it forced upon me in school and I didn't have any options (I could go on about our school systems but I think John Stossel covered that).

    One day I would like to go Japan and try to learn Japanese to get around the country because I want to try and not only respect the Japanese culture but also it would help me out at the end of the day to get around and communicate. This should be the common sense of any legal or illegal immigrant coming to the US.

    And again I had a problem at work today due to a customer lacking any English. I know it's like beating a dead horse but it's pretty irritating problem.
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    Quote by bassman21
    Quote by madcatter
    Spanish is most commonly spoken in the US these days, not English. Media sources outside the US have reported this, like the BBC. So perhaps you should all learn Spanish -)

    My father immigrated to Australia knowing no English at all. He could speak Polish, Croatian, Serbian, Russian, Italian and German so one more language was going to be easy- wrong! He said English was the hardest language to learn out of any of them. He taught himself English by learning one word a day, reciting it even when sitting in the bathroom! He taught himself to read it too, so he could read the building specs for contracts he entered into with the state government.

    Some of his friends who immigrated later didn't bother trying to learn the language and always came over with documents for him to translate until he finally told them to sign up for frickin English classes. See, it's the official language here and to get by, you should learn it.

    If you immigrated to France you would have to learn French. If you immigrated to the Tiwi Islands you'd learn the local Aboriginal dialect. So why not the US? I do recall being told English is the official language, having narrowly beaten German for the prize.


    In Texas they are now requiring two years of foreign language for most high school students. They are also requiring more fine arts classes and less health and PE too. This wasn't required when I was in school. I think it's a good idea (except taking health away), but shouldn't stand in the way if a student is struggling in other subjects. So I agree we should teach our youth a foreign language, but to require it to be Spanish would be unfair.
    When I was in school, depending on the type of diploma one wanted, he/she could take either two years (minimum) or three years (maximum) of a foreign language. I guess it just differs depending on where you went to school. I started taking foreign language classes in middle school, then again, I was always interested in it too...
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    Quote by madcatter
    Spanish is most commonly spoken in the US these days, not English. Media sources outside the US have reported this, like the BBC. So perhaps you should all learn Spanish -)
    Wouldn't bother me. I've always wanted to be fluent in Spanish, and since I'm actually doing volunteer work at the community center, which consists of Spanish immigrants trying to improve their Spanish, some of it is coming back to me. Spanish and Japanese are two languages I always wanted to master at some point in my life. I've always been interested in stuff like that. Of course, my ideal dream is to learn every language known to man. lol
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    If we ever followed the logic that this land belongs to the people that were here first don't you think Americans should now native American dialect?
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    Quote by dosp5
    If we ever followed the logic that this land belongs to the people that were here first don't you think Americans should now native American dialect?
    So, what would that be? There was no set language used among all the Indians.

    And yes I called them Indians, I don't care what the "correct" term is.
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    I don't think they should have to learn our language, only if they want to succeed or get anywhere in our society.
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    Quote by MattNash
    I don't think they should have to learn our language, only if they want to succeed or get anywhere in our society.
    Bingo.
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    I don't get why Spanish is so "popular",why isn't Japanese?
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