Thread: School bans boy's makeup; he cries sexism

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    Well, first off... ugh, I really didn't want to have to say this in the open, because I know in this politically correct society of ours we're so up in our asses to accuse of racism or sexism... look, boys just shouldn't wear make-up, okay? Yes, I believe in freedom of expression, I believe in equality, and all of those American values, but make-up was made for women. Through one way or another, our society has grown to accept that women wear make-up and it's only something for them, to make them better-looking or more attractive. The problem is, when a man suddenly starts doing it, well, it's certainly not attractive, and can be a little disgusting judging by what you're accustomed to. I know everybody loves the idea of changing our society, making things equal between men and women. I totally support the idea of women in the workplace or men doing housework if that's what a couple desires, I understand sexual harassment is wrong, and I believe gay people should be treated equally. As great as all of this is, though, there is no reason boys should be wearing make-up. It's good we're breaking the worse of our traditions, but do we really have to adjust to anything being acceptable in society? I believe in change and all of that, I can't stress that enough, but some stuff should just stay the same. If boys start wearing make-up and girls start wearing football jerseys all the time, eventually there will be a day where we can't even distinguish the two. We should respect each other all the same, but can't we take some pride in our own gender? Can't we each have things that say "I'm proud to be a girl" or "I am a man?" If it were up to me, everybody could do what they wanted, like what they wanted to, and do whatever they want in their personal life. But we should leave girl's things to girls and boy's things to boys. It's not "sexism," it's just your appearance. Wearing make-up as a boy doesn't say anything about yourself, nor does it make you attractive, so what's the point? I'm sorry if you now think that I'm Hitler just because I think some incredibly minor things between a boy and a girl should stay the same, but if it really does bug you, that just proves how up-in-our-ass our society has become. I respect your opinion, but I don't respect mine being called "close-minded."

    That's not even the main point here. The main topic is whether the kid should've gotten in trouble for wearing it or not, because I'm sure he could go out anywhere else in the country like that without trouble. I know I'd be distracted if I saw that in-person, which is the whole reason the kid was told not to wear it, so I don't see what more there is to say. Children's learning is more important than one kid's perception of being "cool and different."


    Where did these rules come from? I hate these "rules", makeup is for women, not for men. I don't even own 1 piece of makeup, and I know some pretty weird girls who actually get upset and angry when they see a girl NOT wearing makeup.....they think they NEED to wear it, like its the law or something "Like, why wouldn't a girl want to look her best? EVERYONE looks better with makeup" Ugh. I don't think there should be any set rules on how a person must be. We all live on this rock you know, we shouldn't all have to be zombies and do what were told. Something as insignificant as makeup shouldn't bother anyone. Why is everyone so afraid of men being feminine? Thats like thinking that every man is going to be homosexual and wear makeup if suddenly everyone accepted it, thats completely wrong, same goes for women.

    Why would it bother you? Im sure you don't even hang out with the type of people who are into that type of thing, and im sure if you were with your friends and saw people like that you'd laugh at them and call them fags, most people would. I think its ridiculous. When I see an obviously gay person or someone who "breaks the rules", I get SO happy, its so refreshing to see that and I just want to go up to them and say "THANK YOU!".

    But im not even talking about the boy in the video anymore. I understand that hes trying to be different with his goth look, its a phase he will probably grow out of, he isn't doing it to seem feminine or anything. But yeah like I said, if anything he should just remove the makeup....the eyeliner isn't distracting because girls wear that all the time, it wasn't even heavily applied.
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    I don't think girls need to wear make-up (to be honest I don't even like it), I just don't think boys should be. The creation of make-up was intended only for women from the start (unless you count those weird tribal people or Indians or whatnot, but those were supposed to mean something other than just to make them look good), it's one of the few things that's really restricted to race or gender these days.

    The problem is, he's not really breaking the rules because he thinks he looks good in wearing make-up, he's only breaking the rules because he wants to break the rules (and to match his look I guess). Seriously, if they suddenly passed a law saying that all men could wear as much make-up as they wanted anywhere, do you think that many people would do it? And if they did, do you really think there's any advantage to it? Even if I don't really like make-up, it's one of those things that makes girls girls. It's just a feminine thing, and before this generation no boy would voluntarily put it on. Every era has some kind of rebellious group, and this generation happens to be the kind that tries to challenge things we're accustomed to... but is there even a reason why they do? It's like they just want to prove something, and I don't even know what it is... that they can get away with it? I'm sure there are tons of people who get away with what this boy tried to, then one kid makes the news and now we're led to believe that we can't express ourselves or whatnot.

    See, now people are giving a lot of attention to these kids instead of just laughing at them, and that's exactly why kids are becoming emo and such today; they want the attention. You said yourself you want to thank people who "break the rules," and that's exactly why they do this. They don't think they look good (at least I hope not), all they want is people to notice them. They're like a real life version of the spammers we constantly get here on RJ.
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    I don't think girls need to wear make-up (to be honest I don't even like it), I just don't think boys should be. The creation of make-up was intended only for women from the start (unless you count those weird tribal people or Indians or whatnot, but those were supposed to mean something other than just to make them look good), it's one of the few things that's really restricted to race or gender these days.

    The problem is, he's not really breaking the rules because he thinks he looks good in wearing make-up, he's only breaking the rules because he wants to break the rules (and to match his look I guess). Seriously, if they suddenly passed a law saying that all men could wear as much make-up as they wanted anywhere, do you think that many people would do it? And if they did, do you really think there's any advantage to it? Even if I don't really like make-up, it's one of those things that makes girls girls. It's just a feminine thing, and before this generation no boy would voluntarily put it on. Every era has some kind of rebellious group, and this generation happens to be the kind that tries to challenge things we're accustomed to... but is there even a reason why they do? It's like they just want to prove something, and I don't even know what it is... that they can get away with it? I'm sure there are tons of people who get away with what this boy tried to, then one kid makes the news and now we're led to believe that we can't express ourselves or whatnot.

    See, now people are giving a lot of attention to these kids instead of just laughing at them, and that's exactly why kids are becoming emo and such today; they want the attention. You said yourself you want to thank people who "break the rules," and that's exactly why they do this. They don't think they look good (at least I hope not), all they want is people to notice them. They're like a real life version of the spammers we constantly get here on RJ.


    You act like its a crime to wear makeup. Its just colored powder, dood. It doesn't hurt anyone.....and if they want to wear it, even if we think it looks stupid, they should be allowed to wear it. Nobody's going to die or get injured if people suddenly accepted men being more feminine......like I said, not EVERY MAN IN THE WORLD would suddenly wear makeup all the sudden, only a small percentage, and woohoo for them! If it makes them happy, then whatever.
    You're looking way too far into this, practically thinking the worlds going to end and male/female gender roles are going to disappear, it wouldn't happen. Im simply saying that people should be more accepting and tolerant, and not feel the need to call a dude a fag because he decides to do something different.
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    I know not every man would wear make-up, my point was even if it were suddenly accepted, they wouldn't do it anyway. I don't think the world's going to end, I guess I'm getting a little worked up, but I think even equality needs to have limits (if something this inane even counts as "equality") when it comes to products made for enhancing a woman's appearance.
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    I know not every man would wear make-up, my point was even if it were suddenly accepted, they wouldn't do it anyway. I don't think the world's going to end, I guess I'm getting a little worked up, but I think even equality needs to have limits (very minor ones at that).


    ITS COLORED POWDER! LOL. JEEBUS! Limit the use of colored powder? >_< Absurd! Damn, you people REALLY do what your told, don't you?

    Sigh, I don't think I have much else to say about this, ive pretty much spoken my mind.
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    Quote by Mezase_Master
    I don't think girls need to wear make-up (to be honest I don't even like it), I just don't think boys should be. The creation of make-up was intended only for women from the start (unless you count those weird tribal people or Indians or whatnot, but those were supposed to mean something other than just to make them look good), it's one of the few things that's really restricted to race or gender these days.

    The problem is, he's not really breaking the rules because he thinks he looks good in wearing make-up, he's only breaking the rules because he wants to break the rules (and to match his look I guess). Seriously, if they suddenly passed a law saying that all men could wear as much make-up as they wanted anywhere, do you think that many people would do it? And if they did, do you really think there's any advantage to it? Even if I don't really like make-up, it's one of those things that makes girls girls. It's just a feminine thing, and before this generation no boy would voluntarily put it on. Every era has some kind of rebellious group, and this generation happens to be the kind that tries to challenge things we're accustomed to... but is there even a reason why they do? It's like they just want to prove something, and I don't even know what it is... that they can get away with it? I'm sure there are tons of people who get away with what this boy tried to, then one kid makes the news and now we're led to believe that we can't express ourselves or whatnot.

    See, now people are giving a lot of attention to these kids instead of just laughing at them, and that's exactly why kids are becoming emo and such today; they want the attention. You said yourself you want to thank people who "break the rules," and that's exactly why they do this. They don't think they look good (at least I hope not), all they want is people to notice them. They're like a real life version of the spammers we constantly get here on RJ.


    Eh? if you don't like the way they look, don't look at them. There is nothing wrong with guys wearing make-up. Why persecute someone because of how they look? Are these types of men a threat to you, no they are not.
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    I haven't been told that, it's just a personal belief. Don't see why upbringing's always blamed for what people think.

    And I didn't say it should be illegal for boys to wear make-up. They just shouldn't do it. You know, like always.
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    I haven't been told that, it's just a personal belief. Don't see why upbringing's always blamed for what people think.

    And I didn't say it should be illegal for boys to wear make-up. They just shouldn't do it. You know, like always.


    Shouldn't do it because it makes you uncomfortable? Awwww, poor you
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    I haven't been told that, it's just a personal belief. Don't see why upbringing's always blamed for what people think.


    Because parents always put their fears into children unknowingly.
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    2 hotties with makeup!




    Oh noes, they are boys! They shouldn't do such horrid things, naughty naughty! That isn't how boys should act!
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    Obviously you didn't even read what I said to make that assumption, so I won't even degrade myself by responding to it.
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    Oh no, its Chris Crocker! Sound the alarms
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    Another effect current day society has on people, assuming disagreements are linked to closet phobias.
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    Another effect current day society has on people, assuming disagreements are linked to closet phobias.


    Well, it makes the most sense. There really shouldn't be any valid reason to think poorly of men in makeup.
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    Well can't we just agree to disagree? Or are you gonna continue laughing it up while turning this into a thread about posting pictures of boys in make-up?
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    Well can't we just agree to disagree? Or are you gonna continue laughing it up while turning this into a thread about posting pictures of boys in make-up?


    Well, I posted those for my own enjoyment.

    But yes, we can agree to disagree, only if you agree to let me give you a MAKEOVER!!!!!!!! OH YEAH!

    Just kidding
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    I'm feeling prettier already!


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    I'm feeling prettier already!


    Im sure you are!



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    ImAllTheRage is hotter than Gerard Way.
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    ImAllTheRage is hotter than Gerard Way.


    Perhaps. But not hotter than Bill Kaulitz. No way no how.
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