Thread: School bans boy's makeup; he cries sexism

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    Quote by Mezase_Master
    I think his black lipstick obviously qualifies as distracting.


    And black lipstick on girls isn't?
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    In my school, no girls wear black lipstick in the first place... I definitely know some who would if they could too.
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    NickRules, people have just as much of a right to say the word 'fag' without hearing a reply like'Wow you suck,' or 'Wow. I'm glad your life sucks now.'
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    Sometimes you have to decide what's more important, getting an education or "sporting your image". Back in my day, boys weren't allowed to wear earrings or have hair exceeding the collar. It's just the school rules, and the purpose of school is to get an education, not to show every one how unique you think your image is. Should boys be allowed to wear dresses to school? Besides, nobody's saying he can't wear make-up and look "goth", they're just saying he can't do that at school. It's a valuable life lesson; in the real world, you're not always going to be able to be yourself.
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    Quote by ImAllTheRage
    I don't believe in public education, anyway, so I kind of HAVE to take this position. Home schooling and/or private schools are the way to go. The public education system telling you how to dress is a little too much like the government telling you how to dress.


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    I applaud this school for trying to make boys act like boys.
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    Hm, you know there have been some really good points. I agree anyone should be allowed to dress as they please, BUT, at the same time, someone made the great point that in the real world, most places of work will not allow you to wear a miilion earrings in one ear or crazy makeup or band t-shirts or trenchcoats or any old thing that you want. Most places have a dress code. So I guess in the sense that you can't always wear/get what you want in the real world, school is a good time to learn that if your not learning it at home.

    I mean while I DO beleive we should be able to dress as we want, it also means that if you let a guy wear black lipstick, black eyeliner, etc, because he takes the stand that it's his freedom of expression, than that means you have to allow girls to wear really, really short shorts and lowcut tops because dressing like sluts would be THEIR form of expression. Kids could come to school in costume daily, there has to be SOME form or rule on the dress code. Unfortunatly, life isn't always fair, because to be fair to everyone would also mean complete chaos. You could argue that if everyone dressed how they wanted, everyone would be completly happy, but that would not be the case. Certain parents would get involved, there would be protests from churches, etc.

    I don't know if any of that made sense..LOL all I am trying to get acrossed is that while I agree we should all be ourselves, the line has to be drawn SOMEWHERE or everything would get chaotic. If you go leniant on one thing, someone else would complain THEY are not getting fair treatment.
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    If anything he should just have to remove the lipstick, its a bit much, but its not distracting in the least. He wore less eye liner than I saw girls at my school wear! It wasn't that bad.

    This isn't even about what the school says anymore, im just shocked at all the people in this thread who are so close minded about this, I thought people were more accepting.
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    Quote by PirateNinja6
    NickRules, people have just as much of a right to say the word 'fag' without hearing a reply like'Wow you suck,' or 'Wow. I'm glad your life sucks now.'


    Yeah thats immaturity on my part. I agree. I just don't think its okay to go around calling guys fags just because they want to wear makeup or be more feminine, it bothers me.
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    Quote by NickRules
    Quote by PirateNinja6
    NickRules, people have just as much of a right to say the word 'fag' without hearing a reply like'Wow you suck,' or 'Wow. I'm glad your life sucks now.'


    Yeah thats immaturity on my part. I agree. I just don't think its okay to go around calling guys fags just because they want to wear makeup or be more feminine, it bothers me.


    I agree with you. That is why freedom of speech is a double edged sword. You can voice an opinion but it also means people can abuse it to be mean and voice theirs.
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    i cant watch the video damn cnn

    don't you people know how to use hypercam?
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    Quote by NickRules
    This isn't even about what the school says anymore, im just shocked at all the people in this thread who are so close minded about this, I thought people were more accepting.
    People aren't close-minded (not to mention it's a really rude thing to say for someone so offended by calling fags fags), you just have to accept the fact that a lot of people don't like this emo/goth/whatever you wanna call it generation, some people are more easily distracted than yourself, and there are rules in school and work that you have to live with. I don't see how this makes us "close-minded."

    Also, how come whenever people talk about boys acting feminine, you're all like "WHY DO PEOPLE THINK MEN HAVE TO BE BEER-CHUGGING PIGS WATCHING FOOTBALL???" I don't care how feminine a boy is, I don't even like football, drink beer, or try to act masculine. There's a difference between being a feminine male and an outright pussy (not to mention when you dress like this kid you're basically screaming that to the world). You seem to be clouded by this belief that the only two sides of a male are Chris Crocker and Arnold Schwarzenegger. There's a lot in-between, you know, and that's about where I fall.
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    Quote by pepsiru1es92
    i cant watch the video damn cnn

    don't you people know how to use hypercam?


    Here you go.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSPXbX13T2s

    Yeah I know that particular kid is kind of a tool, but im upset at how everyones discouraging men being feminine in this thread
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    Quote by Mezase_Master
    Quote by NickRules
    This isn't even about what the school says anymore, im just shocked at all the people in this thread who are so close minded about this, I thought people were more accepting.
    People aren't close-minded (not to mention it's a really rude thing to say for someone so offended by calling fags fags), you just have to accept the fact that a lot of people don't like this emo/goth/whatever you wanna call it generation, some people are more easily distracted than yourself, and there are rules in school and work that you have to live with. I don't see how this makes us "close-minded."

    Also, how come whenever people talk about boys acting feminine, you're all like "WHY DO PEOPLE THINK MEN HAVE TO BE BEER-CHUGGING PIGS WATCHING FOOTBALL???" I don't care how feminine a boy is, I don't even like football, drink beer, or try to act masculine. There's a difference between being a feminine male and an outright pussy (not to mention when you dress like this kid you're basically screaming that to the world). You seem to be clouded by this belief that the only two sides of a male are Chris Crocker and Arnold Schwarzenegger. There's a lot in-between, you know, and that's about where I fall.


    I don't get it though. What makes him a pussy, or any male who wears makeup?
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    thanks for finding it on youtube nickrules.

    ok my opinion: get rid of that goth/emo/whateverthehellyoucallit look. if boys want to wear make up to cover up like a pimple or somthing thats fine. the school admin was right and i would've done the same thing. its ugly, and it is pretty much sticking an antenna in your head and broadcasting to everyone "i hate the world" "im differant" and "hot topic is the best store ever"
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    There's a crapload of insecurity in this thread.......

    Who cares if he wears makeup anywhere, it's not you. Why are people so affected by what other people look like.
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    Quote by codeblue78
    There's a crapload of insecurity in this thread.......

    Who cares if he wears makeup anywhere, it's not you. Why are people so affected by what other people look like.


    Thank you!

    Exactly what I was saying.
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    The guy is a fucking freak.
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    Well, first off... ugh, I really didn't want to have to say this in the open, because I know in this politically correct society of ours we're so up in our asses to accuse of racism or sexism... look, boys just shouldn't wear make-up, okay? Yes, I believe in freedom of expression, I believe in equality, and all of those American values, but make-up was made for women. Through one way or another, our society has grown to accept that women wear make-up and it's only something for them, to make them better-looking or more attractive. The problem is, when a man suddenly starts doing it, well, it's certainly not attractive, and can be a little disgusting judging by what you're accustomed to. I know everybody loves the idea of changing our society, making things equal between men and women. I totally support the idea of women in the workplace or men doing housework if that's what a couple desires, I understand sexual harassment is wrong, and I believe gay people should be treated equally. As great as all of this is, though, there is no reason boys should be wearing make-up. It's good we're breaking the worse of our traditions, but do we really have to adjust to anything being acceptable in society? I believe in change and all of that, I can't stress that enough, but some stuff should just stay the same. If boys start wearing make-up and girls start wearing football jerseys all the time, eventually there will be a day where we can't even distinguish the two. We should respect each other all the same, but can't we take some pride in our own gender? Can't we each have things that say "I'm proud to be a girl" or "I am a man?" If it were up to me, everybody could do what they wanted, like what they wanted to, and do whatever they want in their personal life. But we should leave girl's pride to girls and boy's pride to boys. It's not "sexism," it's just your appearance. Wearing make-up as a boy doesn't say anything about yourself, nor does it make you attractive, so what's the point? I'm sorry if you now think that I'm Hitler just because I think some incredibly minor things between a boy and a girl should stay the same, but if it really does bug you, that just proves how up-in-our-ass our society has become. I respect your opinion, but I don't respect mine being called "close-minded."

    That's not even the main point here. The main topic is whether the kid should've gotten in trouble for wearing it or not, because I'm sure he could go out anywhere else in the country like that without trouble. I know I'd be distracted if I saw that in-person, which is the whole reason the kid was told not to wear it, so I don't see what more there is to say. Children's learning is more important than one kid's perception of being "cool and different."
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    I bet some of the same people that call him "fag" would think he was the shit if he was in a band.
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