Thread: Agree with me how rock now is horrible?

    • 14 years 2 months ago
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    Right now, it depends on the musicians. Most of the stuff you hear on the radio? Yeah, crap. Bad since the end of the 70s? Hell no. If anything the alternative rock and grunge music movements in the 1990s were an evolution of what bands like Led Zeppelin and CCR were doing.
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    I agree with flamepanther completely. The early/mid 90's were a great time for rock music, probably the greatest it had been since the 70's. If you're looking for good rock music now, its still out out there. You're just not going to find it on the radio or mtv.
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    Music started changing in the early 80's when MTV came on the scene. Don't get me wrong I loved MTV back then and all the new wave and punk stuff as well as rock but in hindsight MTV ruined music, music should be about music not having an image and looking good for a camera. Another factor is the music business itself, all the small record labels were swallowed up by the big guys. Less record companies means much less of a chance for some talented musician out there to get a break. The big corporations don't take chances as much, they follow formulas, don't want to take risks. Go back to the late 60's and 70's, countless record labels and great diveristy in music. Today you got a few huge record corporations and the music all sounds like uninspired crap-o-la. Late 70's / early 80's was a great time for music, great diversity .. you had rock, you had metal, you had punk and new wave, you had pop, R&B, etc. New bands like Talking Heads and Devo made music fun and futuristic. Early MTV was great but music starting getting commerical in the 80's and by the late 80's it was all going downhill .. certainly by the early 90's. Rock made a comeback in the form of grunge in '94 but quickly burned itself out.
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    Your on the money pacman. Do you think someone like Bob Dylan or even the Rolling Stones would be stars if they started their careers today? No way.
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    I agree that rock today is a mere shadow of its former self. Hell, music in general is pretty much in the toilet, currently.

    However, it's not ALL bad. If you guys like stuff like Led Zeppelin or Pink Floyd, and are up for something a little different, try out Coheed and Cambria. The musicianship is amazing and the songs are intricately crafted. You can check them out on Purevolume or Myspace.
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    DON'T GET ME STARTED
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    It's all about metal, post hardcore, and Indie rock m/ m/

    (straight rock and roll was better during the hendrix, cream, zepplin, The Who, years though. I'd go as far as to say real rock and roll doesn't even exist anymore.)
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    Quote by DieYuppieScum
    DON'T GET ME STARTED


    Yup, Those three words pretty much sum it up.
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    I think the majorty of music is dreadful these days but there's still some stuff I enjoy. I agree though that rock is in a very grim state these days. For me, rock had a pretty great 30 years run (except for horrible corperate rock and cheesy hair metal, ugh) from 1965 to 1995 and it's been all downhill from there cause the originality and fire seems to be almost all gone.
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    ...sorry to blatantly copy...

    DON'T GET ME STARTED EITHER
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    It is no contest that the golden days of rock were in the 70s, however the best guitar playing was heard in the 80s, 90s Grunge was cool for what its worth. But the days of legends are long gone and its all about this lame panzy emo stuff where guys cry for no reason and steal all the girls.
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    The 60's and the 70's were before my time, yet I love that stuff. I like it better than the stuff on the radio now, which got me ridiculed in high school because all the girls liked 'NSync and the Backstreet Boys, while I liked the Monkees.
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    I don't even bother listening to music today. I particularly like 60s-70s rock and 80s pop, and nothing in the music industry does anything for me today. It's a shame people like Hulk Hogan's daughter get music deals when my boy Michael Nesmith (from the Monkees) is vitually an unknown.
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    You just have to look hard (well maybe really hard)
    mainstream music as of today, doesn't seem like most peoples thing.
    It's more like, when people are born in a certain generation they quickly adapt to it, the stuff you hear today is mostly for those of this new generation unless your into to it as well, thats cool.

    but for me, I think this generation of music seems kinda repetitive, nothing sounds original to me, I'm not saying that it sucks (well maybe a little) its just not my type of listening
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    I know what you mean, but like everyone said, it came back in the 90s for a while. I think there's just a bit of a lull now before the next big thing. And I agree a lot of stuff on the radio and TV is crap, but it's always been like that. You can occasionally find something inspired.

    The problem now is that underground rock and garage type bands are pretty bad now too. It's really hard to find a good undiscovered/unpopular band. Maybe it's just where I live, but all of the stuff I hear on college radio and myspace is just... blech. All the same stuff. That's why I think some radio bands are underrated and some underground bands are way overrated. They're not popular for a reason!
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    i think much of the music around today is garbage. there are a few newer bands i'm into, but not many. i still listen to music from when i was younger. i guess most people like what they grow up with or are exposed to daily. i grew up in the mid - late 80s, and was at the perfect age when grunge came around. i could identify with the music/lyrics. today's music although sounding decent, doesn't give me any emotional response, which i think is very important. i've really been into old rock lately, 50s rockabilly type stuff, the original punk. and i absolutely love the 70s/early 80s punk music. bands like the clash, ramones, buzzcocks etc. not that mall punk they make now. i also collect vinyl so i'm exposed to more and more 'classic' rock which i really dig. it seems there's a musical revolution about every 10 years or so. i think we're in dire need of one of those revolutions today! we need to get rid of all these mall punk/emo/goth/make music to get girls bands out there now. mtv is dead, has been since they made 'the real world'. vh1 isn't far behind. music on the radio is strictly for the masses and too commercial. i can't wait for music to go back to it's roots of simplicity and emotion. this holds for all types of music i think too, rock, country, pop, r&b whatever your tastes, it's far too formulated today. i've rambled on far too long...
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    Quote by Evil
    Your on the money pacman. Do you think someone like Bob Dylan or even the Rolling Stones would be stars if they started their careers today? No way.
    Or Kurt Cobain? (oh snap!)

    Do keep in mind that most of you people weren't alive in the '60s and most of the '70s to hear all the crappy music they had back then. Crappy music gets forgotten, even by the people who actually experienced it. That applies to almost everything, which is part of how nostalgia happens. How many people agreeing that grunge rock was a revival spend a lot of time listening to Hole? Ugh.

    Here's the deal. Music goes through phases. Since probably sometime in the early 20th century, those phases can be measured roughly in decades, largely thanks to the influence of radio (and later television). Incidentally, image and trendiness have always been an issue. The Beatles were initially popular because of their image, and didn't start making really original music until later on. Bob Dylan's image may not seem glamorous to us now, but it was an image that, although humble, reflected the spirit of his time, much like a non-suicidal Kurt Cobain. Anyway, besides image, music trends usually have a theme, where they focus on a particular element of music and work around that. In the '60s and '70s there was a lot of emphasis on originality and on psychedelia (the two were probably more than a little related), '80s rock focused on what you could call craftsman ship. It was like a contest to see who could dish out the most difficult guitar licks and the most insane drum beats. '90s grunge rock focused on honesty and dissonance. Also, Kriller, grunge is known for being a bunch of mumbling, not a bunch of screaming.

    The point of all that is that just because you don't apreciate or understand a particular trend in rock music doesn't make it crap. If you have narrow tastes, that's a personal issue, because the world is going to keep moving on, and musicians are going to keep trying new things. To accuse entire generations of artists of having no soul or talent because they don't subscribe to th styles you like is frankly apalling. Trends in music generally happen because the musicians and the audience want them to. They happen when it's time for them to happen. The record companies try to take advantage of that and exploit it based on image because they don't understand new trends in music. It's the same thing they've done to rock music since the 1950s but with brighter lights and wannabe film directors involved. Don't blame the artists. Or if you have to go around accusing musicians of being fake, look to modern Pop music instead.

    I'm really not sure what the focus of rock now is. I think that like a lot of other things of the late '90s and '00s, rock is going through a phase that doesn't have its own identity and halfheartedly mixes and matches elements from previous decades. The Fine Arts have been going through that as well. So has Hollywood. So has fashion. Our entire culture is in replay mode right now and can't decide where to go next. It's the mood of an entire nation. I don't think you can blame that all on rock music and MTV. Who even watches MTV for music videos anymore anyway?
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    these new age heavy metal bands SUCk!!!!!!!!!!
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    Who even watches MTV for music videos anymore anyway?

    What videos? Same with Much Music. You need the digital channels from those networks to get videos now. I prefer my DVDs, VCDs and You Tube.
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    Quote by Funky
    Who even watches MTV for music videos anymore anyway?

    What videos? Same with Much Music. You need the digital channels from those networkds to get videos now. I prefer my DVDs, VCDs and You Tube.
    Exactly my point.
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