Liberal vs. Conservative

bassman21 2 years 2 months ago Posts: 12839 User Admin	Shazbot wrote: bassman21 wrote: Shazbot wrote: How do you make it less easy? And which lives have the most value? Many of the same people who want a ban on abortion will spit on homeless people or say "death to muslims". 24 hour waiting period with info on other options, no government funding for them and not making it out in the public eye like it isn't a big deal. Without government funding wouldn't it be too expensive for most of these girls to afford? Yes and we should teach them this in school too. If you are going to fuck, you better cover up or it will cost you one way or the other.

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bassman21 2 years 2 months ago Posts: 12839 User Admin	atticusfinch wrote: bassman21 wrote: Shazbot wrote: What difference does it make if it's the "easy" way out or not? Keeping a gun in your house for home defense is "easier" than learning advanced self-defense techniques, so does that mean nobody should ever do it because it's "easier"? I said before abortion should not be banned, but many parts of the world make it too easy. Some women use abortion as a means of birth control. We need to put more value on human life than this. BTW while the number of people that support abortion has gone up, the number of abortions have dropped since the 1970s. Also finch that sounds really fucked up and should never happen. Sorry! Maybe you should watch who you associate with a little better from now on. are you kidding me? a ten year old should watch which family members they associate with? i recommend you stop commenting on this because you're coming off like a real fucking jackass. Sorry honey if you're talking about a 10 year old being raped then that is a different story. I thought you were talking in the last couple of years.

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bassman21 2 years 2 months ago Posts: 12839 User Admin	atticusfinch wrote: so it's always the girl's fault? I never said that. However if you're going to let a guy have sex with you, you should make sure he covers up or you're on birth control pills. Many guys are told that the girl is on the pill when she really isn't.

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Shazbot 2 years 2 months ago Posts: 4622	bassman21 wrote: Shazbot wrote: bassman21 wrote: Shazbot wrote: How do you make it less easy? And which lives have the most value? Many of the same people who want a ban on abortion will spit on homeless people or say "death to muslims". 24 hour waiting period with info on other options, no government funding for them and not making it out in the public eye like it isn't a big deal. Without government funding wouldn't it be too expensive for most of these girls to afford? Yes and we should teach them this in school too. If you are going to fuck, you better cover up or it will cost you one way or the other. I agree about educating more but making abortions too expensive for some of the girls who want them will just send them to the guy with a coathanger. For instance, raising the price of condoms to $100 bucks each wouldn't result in fewer kids having sex, i am sure.

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Well hopefully the guy paid for what he did.
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Shazbot 2 years 2 months ago Posts: 4622	The advice about watching who you hang out with is bullshit! Even your most trusted family member could possibly betray you one day. Some things simply aren't your fault. Period.

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bassman21 2 years 2 months ago Posts: 12839 User Admin	Shazbot wrote: The advice about watching who you hang out with is bullshit! Even your most trusted family member could possibly betray you one day. Some things simply aren't your fault. Period. I agree but there are red flags when someone gets raped more than once by different people. I'm not blaming Finch or anyone else. I'm just saying if it keeps happening maybe take a step back and look. I have known girls that claim to have been raped more than once and they associated with low life people. atticusfinch wrote: sex is sex. if people have access to birth control now and don't use it, why would taking it away from those who are smart enough to use it do any good to anyone? people are going to have sex under circumstances other people don't approve of. people don't approve of each others religions but we are still free to worship whomever or whatever we want. i don't see how it differs. Let me be clear that I'm all for birth control. Have all the sex you want just use birth control unless you want a kid. If we didn't have all the options available maybe I would support abortion more, but there are many on the table.

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Shazbot 2 years 2 months ago Posts: 4622	bassman21 wrote: If we didn't have all the options available maybe I would support abortion more, but there are many on the table. Which is exactly why we need family planning places, to educate young people, advise them on birth control methods and to help supply them with what they need.

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bassman21 2 years 2 months ago Posts: 12839 User Admin	Shazbot wrote: bassman21 wrote: If we didn't have all the options available maybe I would support abortion more, but there are many on the table. Which is exactly why we need family planning places, to educate young people, advise them on birth control methods and to help supply them with what they need. I think that can be done in health class in high school. Plan Parenthood in the USA is more about abortion than safe sex from what I can see.

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bassman21 2 years 2 months ago Posts: 12839 User Admin	atticusfinch wrote: bassman21 wrote: I agree but there are red flags when someone gets raped more than once by different people. I'm not blaming Finch or anyone else. I'm just saying if it keeps happening maybe take a step back and look. I have known girls that claim to have been raped more than once and they associated with low life people. ... wow. just, wow. maybe someone was born into circumstances they can't control. you are extremely ignorant on the subject and are coming off as truly offensive. I'm sorry I don't mean to be. Please don't think I'm blaming you or any other rape victim for anything. The people I knew made a choice to be around those people because the bad boy persona turned them on. Yes it probably went back to the people they grew up around, but they still kept going back to the same type of people. It wasn't just rape, it was other abuses too.

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Shazbot 2 years 2 months ago Posts: 4622	bassman21 wrote: I think that can be done in health class in high school. Plan Parenthood in the USA is more about abortion than safe sex from what I can see. I think it just seems that way because of the way it looks in political debates and on TV. You see a lot of people going in and out of those places, how may of them do you think just had an abortion? Most of what they do in there is advising, counselling, etc. Also, abortions are only part of the medical services they offer. Cervical screening is also an important tool to help prevent cancer and it is often more affordable at these places for young ladies. A 19 year-old girl who has already graduated that wants to start having sex with her boyfriend can't go to a high-school class to help decide which method she likes, leaving it to health class is a bad idea.

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Deleted 2 years 2 months ago Posts: 54340	Bassman, holy shit.... A close friend of mine was kidnapped and gangraped for a week straight. They scarred her face, neck, and vagina. For a long time, she was very shy and scared of everything. She currently has DID (dissociative identity disorder) as a result. I'm somewhat insulted that you're even implying that she brought the gangrape upon herself.

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DeliGuy 2 years 2 months ago Posts: 2852	I don't see why my tax dollars should go to fund any group that is murdering children. Jefferson said To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical. Its not the governments place to fund this. I don't see how anyone can argue for abortion. Its taking the life of a child. If you don't want the child, I know plenty of people that are looking to adopt. I have never seen the validity of back alley v.s. legal abortion. You are saying one life is more important than another. You are saying save one individal by killing a completely innocent one. People have been brain washed into believing this junk and one day will accept euthanasia as well.
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mysticwryter 2 years 2 months ago Posts: 2850	This is a very touchy subject for everyone because of POV's and religious standards (not saying entirely). I never had a bad experience with PP. I went to them for 3 years for birth control and keeping up with exams. I'll put my 2 cents in for Abortion because I hear it all the time; not just in the news. For someone to use aborition as a form of birth control or just because they don't want to have a baby period, needs to be shot in a firing range. If you don't want your child (idk why) give them an oppertunity at life with another couple who can't have children. *Rape victims and those who cannot deliver a baby due to health risks, that's still a grey area and I would understand given the right reason.* It's all based on the POV of the person.
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Deleted 2 years 2 months ago Posts: 54340	DeliGuy wrote: I don't see why my tax dollars should go to fund any group that is murdering children. Jefferson said To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical. Its not the governments place to fund this. I don't see how anyone can argue for abortion. Its taking the life of a child. If you don't want the child, I know plenty of people that are looking to adopt. I have never seen the validity of back alley v.s. legal abortion. You are saying one life is more important than another. You are saying save one individal by killing a completely innocent one. People have been brain washed into believing this junk and one day will accept euthanasia as well. They're not children. They're a parasite. They aren't a child until birth. End of discussion.

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bassman21 2 years 2 months ago Posts: 12839 User Admin	DebrisStorm wrote: Bassman, holy shit.... A close friend of mine was kidnapped and gangraped for a week straight. They scarred her face, neck, and vagina. For a long time, she was very shy and scared of everything. She currently has DID (dissociative identity disorder) as a result. I'm somewhat insulted that you're even implying that she brought the gangrape upon herself. I never said that, please read all the replies. Jesus Christ guys you have known me for years on here. I would never say someone brought a rape on themselves. I was saying if a woman keeps getting raped or otherwise abuses maybe she should look at who she hangs around. I personally avoid low life people and have a pretty drama free life. BTW I used to hang around low life people and had endless drama.

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DeliGuy 2 years 2 months ago Posts: 2852	DebrisStorm wrote: DeliGuy wrote: I don't see why my tax dollars should go to fund any group that is murdering children. Jefferson said To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical. Its not the governments place to fund this. I don't see how anyone can argue for abortion. Its taking the life of a child. If you don't want the child, I know plenty of people that are looking to adopt. I have never seen the validity of back alley v.s. legal abortion. You are saying one life is more important than another. You are saying save one individal by killing a completely innocent one. People have been brain washed into believing this junk and one day will accept euthanasia as well. They're not children. They're a parasite. They aren't a child until birth. End of discussion. Oh the almighty debrisstorm ended the discussion with his decree. They are a child. Watch an ultrasound and tell me otherwise. Watch a little baby in the womb smile when you talk to them and tell me that. You and everyone that holds that view of children are warped in the head.
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mysticwryter 2 years 2 months ago Posts: 2850	bassman21 wrote: DebrisStorm wrote: Bassman, holy shit.... A close friend of mine was kidnapped and gangraped for a week straight. They scarred her face, neck, and vagina. For a long time, she was very shy and scared of everything. She currently has DID (dissociative identity disorder) as a result. I'm somewhat insulted that you're even implying that she brought the gangrape upon herself. I never said that, please read all the replies. Jesus Christ guys you have known me for years on here. I would never say someone brought a rape on themselves. I was saying if a woman keeps getting raped or otherwise abuses maybe she should look at who she hangs around. I personally avoid low life people and have a pretty drama free life. BTW I used to hang around low life people and had endless drama. you and I both know that rape can happen no matter if you are hanging with the "good" or "bad" crowd. It's just a horrible random thing. (emphasis on the horrible)
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Shazbot 2 years 2 months ago Posts: 4622	mysticwryter wrote: *Rape victims and those who cannot deliver a baby due to health risks, that's still a grey area and I would understand given the right reason.* Personally i don't think it should be a grey area at all. A rape victim should not be subjected to a further 9 months of emotional agony just because someone thinks she'd be a murderer if she had an abortion. Let her have the abortion if she so feels and anyone who doesn't like it can go pray for the fetus' soul if they think it'll do anyone any good.

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Deleted 2 years 2 months ago Posts: 54340	DeliGuy wrote: DebrisStorm wrote: DeliGuy wrote: I don't see why my tax dollars should go to fund any group that is murdering children. Jefferson said To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical. Its not the governments place to fund this. I don't see how anyone can argue for abortion. Its taking the life of a child. If you don't want the child, I know plenty of people that are looking to adopt. I have never seen the validity of back alley v.s. legal abortion. You are saying one life is more important than another. You are saying save one individal by killing a completely innocent one. People have been brain washed into believing this junk and one day will accept euthanasia as well. They're not children. They're a parasite. They aren't a child until birth. End of discussion. Oh the almighty debrisstorm ended the discussion with his decree. They are a child. Watch an ultrasound and tell me otherwise. Watch a little baby in the womb smile when you talk to them and tell me that. You and everyone that holds that view of children are warped in the head. Watch the insults there. Planned Parenthood doesn't do any abortions. They do exams, (pregnancy, cancer, health, ect), pass out contraceptives, discuss options. And yes, I do support abortions. Its the woman's body. Nothing you or I can change her mind on what she wants to do with it.

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