Liberal vs. Conservative

  • Shazbot
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    		 How do you, personally define these two suposed ideologies? I don't mean to ask what the definition is according to the internet, what do they mean to you?
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  • BrokenBarricades
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    		 Liberal - Supports capitalism with a human face, but not quite social democracy or democratic socialism. Hobbies enjoy listening to out of date anti-Bush punk. Maybe religious.

    Conservative: Supports capitalism, and depending on the individual, may or may not have a grasp of capitalist economics. Probably religious.
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    		 Ford Taurus.

    Toyota Prius.
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  • American Jedi
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    		 Conservative: Boring as hell, but cost efficient & for the most part respects the freedom of choice of others (short of abortion) in most aspects of life.

    Liberal: Mad-crazy, cocaine & hooker binge fun, but very ignorant & loose economic principles & collectively expects everyone else that wasn't invited to pay for the party. (abortions due to sexual recklessness included)

    Also believes in freedom of choice. (as long as the choice you make is acceptable to them lol)
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  • Shazbot
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    		 To me it's like this:

    [u]Conservative[/u]:
    - afraid of/disdain for anyone different from them in appearance, religious beliefs, political views, etc.
    - seem to want to make sure that rich people and bible thumpers are happy and fuck everyone else.

    [u]liberal[/u]:
    - willing to allow the government to control absolutely anything and everything in peoples' lives.
    - views on immigration are often based on politically correct bullshit rather than real practicality.
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  • bassman21
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    		 Liberal: Often think by theory rather than logic. Think that the government should control every aspect of people's lives. They like higher taxes on the wealthy, but want government entitlements for everyone else. Anything that is traditional or old school is wrong and needs to be changed. You can think them for florescent light bulbs and low flow showers/toilets.

    Conservative: More old school and want less change. Wants less government, but wants a strong military. Think the people should take care of themselves and not be dependent of the government. Generally supports small and big business. Wants lower taxes. Generally supports censorship on radio and TV and supports laws that go against the bible.
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    atticusfinch wrote:

    uh... what?


    Prostitution bans, gay marriage bans.....you know.
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    atticusfinch wrote:
    they also support laws that ban abortion so really that's an inaccurate statement.


    And to stop the funding of Family Planning centers that actually do good.
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  • Shazbot
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    atticusfinch wrote:
    DebrisStorm wrote:
    atticusfinch wrote:
    they also support laws that ban abortion so really that's an inaccurate statement.


    And to stop the funding of Family Planning centers that actually do good.


    well, that's not directly going against the bible but it's still fucked.

    i say that if that law passes, it is every male's duty to knock every republican politician's daughters/wives/mistresses/etc. up.


    That will just flood the country with stupid, ignorant children so that the right-wingers will just push to ban sex before marriage.
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    atticusfinch wrote:
    DebrisStorm wrote:
    atticusfinch wrote:
    they also support laws that ban abortion so really that's an inaccurate statement.


    And to stop the funding of Family Planning centers that actually do good.


    well, that's not directly going against the bible but it's still fucked.

    i say that if that law passes, it is every male's duty to knock every republican politician's daughters/wives/mistresses/etc. up.

    Since it is your body, you should make sure you don't get pregnant in the first place. Some women want to spread their legs and then not take responsibility. Abortion is the easy way out. Making it harder means people will try harder not to get knocked up.
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  • Shazbot
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    DebrisStorm wrote:
    atticusfinch wrote:
    they also support laws that ban abortion so really that's an inaccurate statement.


    And to stop the funding of Family Planning centers that actually do good.


    I am pretty sure that for most conservaives the phrase "family planning" means strictly "abortion" and maybe "murder". Thay obviously aren't smart enough to realize that there are some important things these places do for young women, such as educating about STDs and contraception, performing cervical screening, counselling rape victims, etc.
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    atticusfinch wrote:
    Shazbot wrote:
    atticusfinch wrote:
    DebrisStorm wrote:
    atticusfinch wrote:
    they also support laws that ban abortion so really that's an inaccurate statement.


    And to stop the funding of Family Planning centers that actually do good.


    well, that's not directly going against the bible but it's still fucked.

    i say that if that law passes, it is every male's duty to knock every republican politician's daughters/wives/mistresses/etc. up.


    That will just flood the country with stupid, ignorant children so that the right-wingers will just push to ban sex before marriage.


    it was a jokeee.

    they could never pass a law like that. abortion is a touchy subject because many people equate it with murder. sex before marriage is a personal right/choice, you can't ban that.


    Hey, some people see abortion in the same way.
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  • Shazbot
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    		 What difference does it make if it's the "easy" way out or not? Keeping a gun in your house for home defense is "easier" than learning advanced self-defense techniques, so does that mean nobody should ever do it because it's "easier"?
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    atticusfinch wrote:
    color me own'd! you're real smart shaz.


    Nah, not really. I just don't like the idea of anyone telling a woman what she can and can't do with her own body, we don't live in Saudi Arabia.
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    atticusfinch wrote:
    i'm going to throw this out there: i have had more non-consensual sex with guys than consensual sex with guys.


    I am sorry to hear that.

    I still think that right-wingers would blame you nonetheless.
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    Shazbot wrote:
    What difference does it make if it's the "easy" way out or not? Keeping a gun in your house for home defense is "easier" than learning advanced self-defense techniques, so does that mean nobody should ever do it because it's "easier"?


    I said before abortion should not be banned, but many parts of the world make it too easy. Some women use abortion as a means of birth control. We need to put more value on human life than this.

    BTW while the number of people that support abortion has gone up, the number of abortions have dropped since the 1970s.

    Also finch that sounds really fucked up and should never happen. Sorry! Maybe you should watch who you associate with a little better from now on.
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  • Shazbot
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    bassman21 wrote:
    Shazbot wrote:
    What difference does it make if it's the "easy" way out or not? Keeping a gun in your house for home defense is "easier" than learning advanced self-defense techniques, so does that mean nobody should ever do it because it's "easier"?


    I said before abortion should not be banned, but many parts of the world make it too easy. Some women use abortion as a means of birth control. We need to put more value on human life than this.

    BTW while the number of people that support abortion has gone up, the number of abortions have dropped since the 1970s.


    How do you make it less easy?

    And which lives have the most value? Many of the same people who want a ban on abortion will spit on homeless people or say "death to muslims".
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    Shazbot wrote:

    How do you make it less easy?

    And which lives have the most value? Many of the same people who want a ban on abortion will spit on homeless people or say "death to muslims".


    24 hour waiting period with info on other options, no government funding for them and not making it out in the public eye like it isn't a big deal.
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  • Shazbot
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    bassman21 wrote:
    Maybe you should watch who you associate with a little better from now on.


    Haha, i called it!
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  • Shazbot
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    bassman21 wrote:
    Shazbot wrote:

    How do you make it less easy?

    And which lives have the most value? Many of the same people who want a ban on abortion will spit on homeless people or say "death to muslims".


    24 hour waiting period with info on other options, no government funding for them and not making it out in the public eye like it isn't a big deal.


    Without government funding wouldn't it be too expensive for most of these girls to afford? If it's not illegal then everyone should have access, not just those who have plenty of money.

    And what do you mean about the public eye? Like, make it more private by using only your family doctor?
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