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    Shazbot wrote:
    ...which may just be, in essence, the very DNA we talked about, with no actual intelligence or sentience to speak of.

    Like i said, the belief in a higher power of some kind is not necessarily unreasonable, it just seems incredibly improbable and unlikely to me that God is as the religions say; male, sentient, omnipresent, omnipotent, jealous, vengeful, forgiving, etc.


    Actually the Hindus say He's both. How else do you justify female existence?
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    Female existence doesn't need to be justified.

    EDIT: By the way, most Hindus don't believe in a single God. (depends on the sect what they believe)
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    thabz wrote:
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    Well put, 'dust' here can refer to DNA strands or Carbon molecules that made them.

    But hey, thats just me.


    Right, but those strands may have taken millions of years to evolve and change. From single cells, to plankton, to animals, to us. As opposed to the idea that two people sprang to life already as adults.


    It only took a week, as opposed to the millions science refers to.


    Well, according to the Bible, it didn't really take a week. He was not working on us as a project over those days, he basically snapped his fingers and we appeared instantly once the seas and sky and everything were made. It is simply too ludicrous, in my opinion, to be taken literally.


    Keyword: literally
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    thabz wrote:
    Shazbot wrote:
    thabz wrote:
    Well put, 'dust' here can refer to DNA strands or Carbon molecules that made them.

    But hey, thats just me.


    Right, but those strands may have taken millions of years to evolve and change. From single cells, to plankton, to animals, to us. As opposed to the idea that two people sprang to life already as adults.


    It only took a week, as opposed to the millions science refers to.


    Remember, words were limited. The "week" might refer to many ages.
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    Shazbot wrote:
    thabz wrote:
    Shazbot wrote:
    thabz wrote:
    Well put, 'dust' here can refer to DNA strands or Carbon molecules that made them.

    But hey, thats just me.


    Right, but those strands may have taken millions of years to evolve and change. From single cells, to plankton, to animals, to us. As opposed to the idea that two people sprang to life already as adults.


    It only took a week, as opposed to the millions science refers to.


    Remember, words were limited. The "week" might refer to many ages.


    Now you're getting it. :D
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    Right, so this male God who created us directly from dust was basically our primitive way of understanding that God really isn't what the Bible says and we evolved.
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    Shazbot wrote:
    Female existence doesn't need to be justified.

    EDIT: By the way, most Hindus don't believe in a single God. (depends on the sect what they believe)


    God to them is not just one entity He's many which answers you're question of "God is as the religions say; male, sentient, omnipresent, omnipotent, jealous, vengeful, forgiving, etc"
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    Right, so this male God who created us directly from dust was basically our primitive way of understanding that God really isn't what the Bible says and we evolved.


    No.. As in not evolve in the way science wants us to believe when it comes to people.
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    Yes, actually. Evolution.
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    thabz wrote:
    Shazbot wrote:
    Female existence doesn't need to be justified.

    EDIT: By the way, most Hindus don't believe in a single God. (depends on the sect what they believe)


    God to them is not just one entity He's many which answers you're question of "God is as the religions say; male, sentient, omnipresent, omnipotent, jealous, vengeful, forgiving, etc"


    And to me it is just human nature to attribute any of those human qualities to any perceived God. We don't know where we came from or understand exactly how life on Earth began so we create a God who is basically human in behavior since it's all we can really comprehend.
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    Yup. We've had Jews, Christians, Muslims all posted. Let's see where this goes.


    Instead of "seeing where this goes", why don't you contribute to the conversation, you fucking pussy?

    You couldn't say much in the Christians thread other than being all butthurt, maybe you can come up with an original thought of your own to share?


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    Yup. We've had Jews, Christians, Muslims all posted. Let's see where this goes.


    Instead of "seeing where this goes", why don't you contribute to the conversation, you fucking pussy?

    You couldn't say much in the Christians thread other than being all butthurt, maybe you can come up with an original thought of your own to share?


    Fuck off


    He's got a point. You started things off. Then when shit started getting real, (Like when people responded) you ran and hid like a fucking coward. Add to the conversation, you fucking troll.
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    Shazbot wrote:
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    Yup. We've had Jews, Christians, Muslims all posted. Let's see where this goes.


    Instead of "seeing where this goes", why don't you contribute to the conversation, you fucking pussy?

    You couldn't say much in the Christians thread other than being all butthurt, maybe you can come up with an original thought of your own to share?


    Fuck off


    Why even bother responding, Barbara-x? You trolling fuck.
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    Shazbot wrote:
    GeneralCritic99 wrote:
    Shazbot wrote:
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    Yup. We've had Jews, Christians, Muslims all posted. Let's see where this goes.


    Instead of "seeing where this goes", why don't you contribute to the conversation, you fucking pussy?

    You couldn't say much in the Christians thread other than being all butthurt, maybe you can come up with an original thought of your own to share?


    Fuck off


    Why even bother responding, Barbara-x? You trolling fuck.


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    I have no problem with people being assholes in the war room but he hasn't contributed anything to a single thread anywhere, which is proof that Barbara-x was him, they have the exact same posting habits.
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    BrokenBarricades wrote:
    Who created the creator?


    The law of conservation of energy is an empirical law of physics. It states that the total amount of energy in an isolated system remains constant over time (is said to be conserved over time). A consequence of this law is that energy can neither be created nor destroyed.

    Think of God in this way, He has no beginning and no end.


    Sorry, the steady state theory was disproved years ago. The idea that something doesn't have a beginning or end is fucking stupid and unscientific.
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    It's one thing to not believe in the existence of God, but then it's another to make your life mission to convince other people why they are wrong for believing there is one!


    Just like it is wrong for the religious to try to spread their beliefs onto others. Unfortunately, it is only natural for people to want everyone else to see thing their way since there is safety in numbers. This is one reason people get all upset when debating religion.

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    Personally, I don't see the point in Atheism, refusing to acknowledge that existence of a God is even possible.... Agnosticism makes much more sense.


    For some people it's not about making sense. A belief structure is hardly ever based around the plausible or rational, it's blind faith steeped in what they "know" in their hearts to be true.


    Here we go again.. my fucking words being dissected and psychoanalyzed. I mentioned in the SAME POST you PARTIALLY quoted me from that I don't GIVE A RATS ASS what the belief is (God or no God), I am sick of people trying to cram it down my throat like a whore who needs money for a crack fix! So yes, that would include religious nutcases forcing their religion upon others and riding their bikes and knocking on doors, or Atheist fucktwats trying to make themselves appear more intelligent than others because they don't believe in the "big bearded tooth fairy up in the sky". I do agree with most of what you have said in this thread though, ironically.... But the people debating on here will continue to debate and continue to see who's dick is bigger and I will just sit back and laugh... People will continue to spend their whole lives convincing others that there is a god or there isn't a god... People will continue to act like they know everything when in reality they know nothing... In my OPINION the complete refusal to even acknowledge that the existence of God may be possible is JUST as ignorant as the people who say that beyond a shadow of a doubt that God MUST exist when they have no proof whatsoever because there are things we can't explain, and only have their FAITH.... Does anybody really understand that? That's why it's called FAITH in the first place, because you have to believe (if you do) without knowing for a fact that God exists? Anyway I'm done posting on this thread because it is as irritating as it is meaningless... Fuck the douche that started it in the first place and didn't have the balls to contribute to such a worthless conversation. I have better things to do with my time than debate HOW we got here and who is right or wrong, like actually enjoy the time that I HAVE here and live something called LIFE. Peace.
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    It's one thing to not believe in the existence of God, but then it's another to make your life mission to convince other people why they are wrong for believing there is one!


    Just like it is wrong for the religious to try to spread their beliefs onto others. Unfortunately, it is only natural for people to want everyone else to see thing their way since there is safety in numbers. This is one reason people get all upset when debating religion.

    piercedsphynx wrote:
    Personally, I don't see the point in Atheism, refusing to acknowledge that existence of a God is even possible.... Agnosticism makes much more sense.


    For some people it's not about making sense. A belief structure is hardly ever based around the plausible or rational, it's blind faith steeped in what they "know" in their hearts to be true.


    Here we go again.. my fucking words being dissected and psychoanalyzed. I mentioned in the SAME POST you PARTIALLY quoted me from that I don't GIVE A RATS ASS what the belief is (God or no God), I am sick of people trying to cram it down my throat like a whore who needs money for a crack fix! So yes, that would include religious nutcases forcing their religion upon others and riding their bikes and knocking on doors, or Atheist fucktwats trying to make themselves appear more intelligent than others because they don't believe in the "big bearded tooth fairy up in the sky". I do agree with most of what you have said in this thread though, ironically.... But the people debating on here will continue to debate and continue to see who's dick is bigger and I will just sit back and laugh... People will continue to spend their whole lives convincing others that there is a god or there isn't a god... People will continue to act like they know everything when in reality they know nothing... In my OPINION the complete refusal to even acknowledge that the existence of God may be possible is JUST as ignorant as the people who say that beyond a shadow of a doubt that God MUST exist when they have no proof whatsoever because there are things we can't explain, and only have their FAITH.... Does anybody really understand that? That's why it's called FAITH in the first place, because you have to believe (if you do) without knowing for a fact that God exists? Anyway I'm done posting on this thread because it is as irritating as it is meaningless... Fuck the douche that started it in the first place and didn't have the balls to contribute to such a worthless conversation. I have better things to do with my time than debate HOW we got here and who is right or wrong, like actually enjoy the time that I HAVE here and live something called LIFE. Peace.


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    Here we go again.. my fucking words being dissected and psychoanalyzed. I mentioned in the SAME POST you PARTIALLY quoted me from that I don't GIVE A RATS ASS what the belief is (God or no God), I am sick of people trying to cram it down my throat like a whore who needs money for a crack fix! So yes, that would include religious nutcases forcing their religion upon others and riding their bikes and knocking on doors, or Atheist fucktwats trying to make themselves appear more intelligent than others because they don't believe in the "big bearded tooth fairy up in the sky". I do agree with most of what you have said in this thread though, ironically.... But the people debating on here will continue to debate and continue to see who's dick is bigger and I will just sit back and laugh... People will continue to spend their whole lives convincing others that there is a god or there isn't a god... People will continue to act like they know everything when in reality they know nothing... In my OPINION the complete refusal to even acknowledge that the existence of God may be possible is JUST as ignorant as the people who say that beyond a shadow of a doubt that God MUST exist when they have no proof whatsoever because there are things we can't explain, and only have their FAITH.... Does anybody really understand that? That's why it's called FAITH in the first place, because you have to believe (if you do) without knowing for a fact that God exists? Anyway I'm done posting on this thread because it is as irritating as it is meaningless... Fuck the douche that started it in the first place and didn't have the balls to contribute to such a worthless conversation.


    Nobody is dissecting or psychoanalyzing. I quoted the parts of your post partially to respond to them separately. Why is that so bad? Funny thing is, i wasn't even disagreeing with you, i was just adding my opinion. If you think i am trying to cram anything down your throat you must be autistic or something. If you haven't noticed, we have all offered our own opinions on the subject. Besides it is the war room, if you're so fragile, don't click on it.

    piercedsphynx wrote:
    I have better things to do with my time than debate HOW we got here and who is right or wrong, like actually enjoy the time that I HAVE here and live something called LIFE. Peace.


    And yet you'll post some rant about it, which is no better. (OMG i am "dissecting" again! Woe is me!)
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    Yes, actually. Evolution.


    ... Do you now see where atheists get their "inspiration" from?

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    And to me it is just human nature to attribute any of those human qualities to any perceived God. We don't know where we came from or understand exactly how life on Earth began so we create a God who is basically human in behavior since it's all we can really comprehend.


    Not sure what you're getting at, but we also give those human qualities to animals. y'know like chicken=coward, bear=aggressive, cat= meek, etc. So how would you describe God? Or maybe He should be "indescribable"?

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    Sorry, the steady state theory was disproved years ago. The idea that something doesn't have a beginning or end is fucking stupid and unscientific.


    So how exactly did the big bang happen and how did those particles form up BEFORE triggering the big bang. Did they decide on their own to come into existence?


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