California students sent home for wearing American flag shirts on Cinco De Mayo.

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Saruman_w 3 years 9 days ago Posts: 10803 Super Mod	Clearly you have a problem with patriotism for some odd reason. These kids had the right to wear what they wanted, but noooo they're "hiding" behind the 1st amendment. Don't like that, do you? Wish you could impose your will on others?
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DMoney89 3 years 9 days ago Posts: 3323 Account Disabled	Saruman_w wrote: Clearly you have a problem with patriotism for some odd reason. These kids had the right to wear what they wanted, but noooo they're "hiding" behind the 1st amendment. Don't like that, do you? Wish you could impose your will on others? Nah, just a problem with people dodging the point.

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NastraWuKid91 3 years 9 days ago Posts: 67 Account Disabled	Saruman_w wrote: Look at it this way, if the students involved wearing the American flags were black, or some other race ( not every American is white ) you wouldn't have given a damn, would you? Or is it that only white people can be racist? Do you know the actual defintion of racism? I'm being serious when I ask you this. Blacks and other minorities can be racist in the sense of hating someone dued to skin color but they're not racist in the sense of have control like institutional racism ( i.e. white supremacy), which this country is ran by.

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fucking americans
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fucking americans

The land of hate and battery acid.
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Saruman_w 3 years 9 days ago Posts: 10803 Super Mod	NastraWuKid91 wrote: Saruman_w wrote: Look at it this way, if the students involved wearing the American flags were black, or some other race ( not every American is white ) you wouldn't have given a damn, would you? Or is it that only white people can be racist? Do you know the actual defintion of racism? I'm being serious when I ask you this. Blacks and other minorities can be racist in the sense of hating someone dued to skin color but they're not racist in the sense of have control like institutional racism ( i.e. white supremacy), which this country is ran by. What? Racism is racism. No matter the color of the people who perpetrate it. Definitely it differently based on the color of the people in "control" is utter nonsense. That's like saying such and such group can be racist, but not as racist as such and such other group 'cause there's more of them.
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NastraWuKid91 3 years 9 days ago Posts: 67 Account Disabled	Saruman_w wrote: NastraWuKid91 wrote: Saruman_w wrote: Look at it this way, if the students involved wearing the American flags were black, or some other race ( not every American is white ) you wouldn't have given a damn, would you? Or is it that only white people can be racist? Do you know the actual defintion of racism? I'm being serious when I ask you this. Blacks and other minorities can be racist in the sense of hating someone dued to skin color but they're not racist in the sense of have control like institutional racism ( i.e. white supremacy), which this country is ran by. What? Racism is racism. No matter the color of the people who perpetrate it. Definitely it differently based on the color of the people in "control" is utter nonsense. That's like saying such and such group can be racist, but not as racist as such and such other group 'cause there's more of them. I'm gonna take that as a "no". First of all, there are many variations of racism. But, I'm talking about have control over one or more races of people, which falls in the catagory of Institutional racism, like white supremacy/imperalism. Are you actually gonna sit here and tell me blacks and other minorites have control over white people? Really? Control has a lot to do with racism.

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DMoney89 3 years 9 days ago Posts: 3323 Account Disabled	You can try to dodge the story & turn it around on me and make it seem like I'm anti-whitey all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that these kids did what they did for a reason. A reason that shouldn't be tolerated if we ever wanna progress in this country and get anywhere near the "WE'RE ALL AMERICANS NO MATTER WHAT!" fantasy utopia you think we're already at. Period. END OF THREAD

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NastraWuKid91 3 years 9 days ago Posts: 67 Account Disabled	DMoney89 wrote: You can try to dodge the story & turn it around on me and make it seem like I'm anti-whitey all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that these kids did what they did for a reason. A reason that shouldn't be tolerated if we ever wanna progress in this country and get anywhere near the "WE'RE ALL AMERICANS NO MATTER WHAT!" fantasy utopia you think we're already at. Period. END OF THREAD Hey Dmoney don't forget White Jesus and Christopher Columbus was a hero. Horray for White America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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DMoney89 3 years 9 days ago Posts: 3323 Account Disabled	It's not even about White America vs. Black America or all that bullshit. My philosophy is to stop the categorizing all together. Race should merely be description. But at this point in time, it's still being used as definition. Those kids were categorizing themselves. They were defining themselves as the elite of America. THAT'S the problem I have with all this. THAT'S why I'm pissed you're just letting it slide like it's no big deal. ..... REAL END OF THREAD

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NastraWuKid91 3 years 9 days ago Posts: 67 Account Disabled	The problem is that there's miscommunications when it comes to situations like this, but I digress...

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bassman21 3 years 9 days ago Posts: 12791 User Admin	I see your point Dmoney, but my point is that these loud and proud Latino's do this bull shit all the time. They flash the Mexican flag and play their music just to rub it into American's faces that they are here. Just look at how they have been protesting over the law in AZ. Seriously it is just as bad as White supremacy and some kids that wear some flags are more racist? What is funny is most Hispanics don't like them doing this and generally see that group as trashy. Just like most black folks see ghetto black people actions in a similar light. Just like most white people see ignorant racist white rednecks in that light. Furthermore most descent blacks, white, Hispanics and other races get along with one another just fine and celebrate Holidays without come across this way. However we let these little wars amongst these usually lower class ignorant people get us fired up and sadly we are sometimes forced to be in the middle of it. My point is these race wars are amongst those that are too narrow minded to break away from their common stereotypes that no one likes but them. Again I see you guy's point, but I still think these boys made a good point and just proved how little respect people have for our flag. Like I said before this must have been an issue in this school. As for the racism coming from Whites it is a small group and every race has racist. This is their personal choice and we need to stop calling America a racist nation because of these nutjobs.

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Deleted 3 years 9 days ago Posts: 54340	NastraWuKid91 wrote: Blacks and other minorities can be racist in the sense of hating someone dued to skin color but they're not racist in the sense of have control like institutional racism ( i.e. white supremacy), which this country is ran by. If this country is ran by white supremacy, than how did Obama get in? Why did the country overwhelmingly vote for him if it is controlled by institutional racism?

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Psycho Mantis 3 years 9 days ago Posts: 937	The point is that even despite those white kids intent, no matter how rude it was, had every right to wear those shirts. Dmoney said he wants to stop the categorizing all together, but from what i read from this thread was that once you saw it was white on mexican, you instantly got upset and said how they were basically white supremacists. Just an observation I had. There was a lot of hypocrisy in this thread. Otherwise, I agree they were kinda being dicks but hey, its America, they have every right to be dicks.
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NastraWuKid91 3 years 9 days ago Posts: 67 Account Disabled	retromaniac wrote: NastraWuKid91 wrote: Blacks and other minorities can be racist in the sense of hating someone dued to skin color but they're not racist in the sense of have control like institutional racism ( i.e. white supremacy), which this country is ran by. If this country is ran by white supremacy, than how did Obama get in? Why did the country overwhelmingly vote for him if it is controlled by institutional racism? Do you not get it? Obama doesn't really have control, like any other president before him, he is a puppet to the government. And you know damn well the only reason he realy won because no one wanted McCain to win because that imbecile Palin. You think people were ready for a women to be Vice President, or if McCain passed on, a female President. Please, please don't give me that bullshit about Obama. This country is still in control by white people. You guys are not a damn minority.

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bassman21 3 years 9 days ago Posts: 12791 User Admin	NastraWuKid91 wrote: retromaniac wrote: NastraWuKid91 wrote: Blacks and other minorities can be racist in the sense of hating someone dued to skin color but they're not racist in the sense of have control like institutional racism ( i.e. white supremacy), which this country is ran by. If this country is ran by white supremacy, than how did Obama get in? Why did the country overwhelmingly vote for him if it is controlled by institutional racism? Do you not get it? Obama doesn't really have control, like any other president before him, he is a puppet to the government. And you know damn well the only reason he realy won because no one wanted McCain to win because that imbecile Palin. You think people were ready for a women to be Vice President, or if McCain passed on, a female President. Please, please don't give me that bullshit about Obama. This country is still in control by white people. You guys are not a damn minority. Man what is up? You too are sounding like you have been talking to Quanell X. Black people make up something like 14% of the population. As hard as it is to believe most people in the country are still white, so of course there will be more whites in power. This is changing slowly but surely. I think the fact we got a Black president DOES show a change in Americans views on colored people. Before Palin was even picked Obama and McCain were neck and neck in polls. Palin had little to do with McCain losing, it was more about people wanting a change from the 8 years of Bush. Had this election taken place in 1988 Obama would not have had a chance of winning as America was much more racially divided then. I think if a male Democrat was up against McCain the results would have been about the same. Trust me white America is not as racist as you think they are. And yes if you live anywhere near a major city White people ARE the minority. You want to know what though? I really don't care as people are people.

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NastraWuKid91 3 years 8 days ago Posts: 67 Account Disabled	bassman21 wrote: NastraWuKid91 wrote: retromaniac wrote: NastraWuKid91 wrote: Blacks and other minorities can be racist in the sense of hating someone dued to skin color but they're not racist in the sense of have control like institutional racism ( i.e. white supremacy), which this country is ran by. If this country is ran by white supremacy, than how did Obama get in? Why did the country overwhelmingly vote for him if it is controlled by institutional racism? Do you not get it? Obama doesn't really have control, like any other president before him, he is a puppet to the government. And you know damn well the only reason he realy won because no one wanted McCain to win because that imbecile Palin. You think people were ready for a women to be Vice President, or if McCain passed on, a female President. Please, please don't give me that bullshit about Obama. This country is still in control by white people. You guys are not a damn minority. Man what is up? You too are sounding like you have been talking to Quanell X. Black people make up something like 14% of the population. As hard as it is to believe most people in the country are still white, so of course there will be more whites in power. This is changing slowly but surely. I think the fact we got a Black president DOES show a change in Americans views on colored people. Before Palin was even picked Obama and McCain were neck and neck in polls. Palin had little to do with McCain losing, it was more about people wanting a change from the 8 years of Bush. Had this election taken place in 1988 Obama would not have had a chance of winning as America was much more racially divided then. I think if a male Democrat was up against McCain the results would have been about the same. Trust me white America is not as racist as you think they are. And yes if you live anywhere near a major city White people ARE the minority. You want to know what though? I really don't care as people are people. Oh Bassman, you really had to go there? Quanell X? Really? I don't support dumbass black supremacists like him. I'm surprise that dumbass hasn't gotten lynched yet. But you have to understand I try to be real about things especially when it comes to certain aspects like this. White people, in this country noy in cities, in general are NOT a minority. To make up 78-80% of this country is a saying a lot you know. But if you're going going to talk about whites being a minority, like at South Africa. They were a minority and look at how much control they had over coloured and black people. So size isn't always a factor you know/ But you know what? I'm not gonna go there. I'll leave it at that. And btw, I never said all white people were racist, I was talking about white supremacists and yes the government has a lot more control than you think he does.

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bassman21 3 years 8 days ago Posts: 12791 User Admin	NastraWuKid91 wrote: Oh Bassman, you really had to go there? Quanell X? Really? I don't support dumbass black supremacists like him. I'm surprise that dumbass hasn't gotten lynched yet. But you have to understand I try to be real about things especially when it comes to certain aspects like this. White people, in this country noy in cities, in general are NOT a minority. To make up 78-80% of this country is a saying a lot you know. But if you're going going to talk about whites being a minority, like at South Africa. They were a minority and look at how much control they had over coloured and black people. So size isn't always a factor you know/ But you know what? I'm not gonna go there. I'll leave it at that. And btw, I never said all white people were racist, I was talking about white supremacists and yes the government has a lot more control than you think he does. I just said that to piss you off because I know how much to dislike him. That 80% is a 1990s number. If you don't count Hispanics which are often times considered white the number is more like 60%. The government isn't our friend no matter what color is running it and the history other countries has proven that. There are many white politicians that fight every day for your rights and private citizens do too. Also much of the efforts to rebuild Louisiana were done by white people for free. As for white supremacists they are a dwindling group of nut jobs and white people take them about as serious as blacks take the New Black Panther Party. For every racist white person there are many more that are not. These kids that wore these shirts were not white supremacist, but just some teenage boys that wanted make a point to the Hispanic principal. I don't even think they were trying to offend any of the students. I think we have made our point on this and I don't have any more to say.

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