California students sent home for wearing American flag shirts on Cinco De Mayo.

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    		 Political correct BS gone wild once again. Apparently, some Mexican students were offended that some students were wearing American flag shirts on Cinco De Mayo, so they complained. The students were asked to turn their shirts inside out to hide the red, white, and blue...but they were sent home after they refused. Political correctness is getting so out of control, that even our own AMERICAN FLAG is starting to be considered offensive. :x


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dukMrL_MBGs



    What's ironic, is a few of the students who wore the flags are part Mexican. So any idea that these students did this out of racism towards Mexicans just got thrown out the window.
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  • bassman21
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    		 If a group of Mexican students wore shirts with the Mexican flag on say Columbus Day I bet they wouldn't have said a word. The principle was correct about the bandanna, but he was not right about the shirts. If they are not against school policy these students did nothing wrong and the principle should not have done what he did. I'm glad the district sided with the students and I praise the students for not giving into the principles request.

    We use to celebrate cinco de mayo in school (about half was hispanic), but we never made this big of a deal out of it. I think this principle needs to leave a little of his Mexican pride at the door.
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    		http://www.cephas-library.com/nwo/nwo_columbian_flag_in_us_class_room_initiates_flap_at_freedom_high.html

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  • bassman21
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    		 STFU Dmoney, the students were violating the school rule in this case. These students were not except for the bandanna. I personally could care less that these students had a flag on their back pack, but the school rules said no. Plus this is the USA, could a American student get away with wearing a mexican flag on Cinco De Mayo in Mexico? Hell No!
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  • DMoney89
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    		 Waa waa cry me a fucking river.

    It's sad enough that people like ya'll are the "default" race and blacks/hispanics have to be "given" a special month/day to celebrate their history and heritage (since, ya know, your ancestors tried to do everything to erase EVERYONE'S history but their own).
    But on the ONE day kids of Hispanic decent are "allowed" to celebrate their culture's Independence Day, those American kids wanna act like smartasses and make some sort of statement by wearing the American Flag. You would be just as pissed off if someone came to your 4th of July barbeque donning some British Flag attire or some Nazi shit. Or the thousands of stories every year were nooses are hung all over the school when some African American event or Black History Month is going down. Where's your tears for that?

    Point is, those kids knew EXACTLY what they were doing when they decided to wear those shirts on a day like Cinco De Mayo, because they KNEW how the Hispanics would react, and they KNEW that they would be making a statement (I mean come on. The highest rated Youtube comments on those videos are all anti-Mexican/throw them wetbags out our country type bullshit).

    Good riddens to those little asswipes. They're trying to subtly promote their "White Power!" bullshit (no but wait! One's HALF mexican so it makes it all ok since he's still half white., but I see right through it.

    Quit pretending you have any idea what racism or racial discrimation feels like.
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  • jrs1991
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    		 so the american flag means white power now?
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    jrs1991 wrote:
    so the american flag means white power now?


    So they just so happened to get together and all decide to wear an American Flag T-Shirt on Cinco De Mayo by coincidence?

    They see America = White Nation, so yes, they used it for their own agenda.
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    		 I agree with Dmoney that it wasn't a coincidence. It might have been rude to do that in spite but they do have the right to wear anything they want. Just like the hispanics or other races do. What sickens me is how people get so offended by everything these days. Everywhere you go people are always whining about something whether it be about race or religion or this political correctness. People need to learn to get the fuck over things.
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    DMoney89 wrote:
    jrs1991 wrote:
    so the american flag means white power now?


    So they just so happened to get together and all decide to wear an American Flag T-Shirt on Cinco De Mayo by coincidence?

    They see America = White Nation, so yes, they used it for their own agenda.


    You seemed to miss the part of my post where I mentioned that some of the kids who wore the American flags are part Mexican. Were these kids trying to make a statement? Of course they were. Was the statement that they are racists? Absolutely not. They are proud Americans, and they stated that they did not want to celebrate a foreign holiday that had no relevance to them. Being American doesn't mean being "white", and being proud to be an American doesn't mean you are a white supremacist racist.

    And what do you mean blacks only get one special month to celebrate their history? Every time we celebrate the 4th of July, Memorial Day, Labor Day, Veterans Day, etc...we are celebrating AMERICAN history, which includes every race that lives in this country, not just whites. Last time I checked, blacks also fought in the Revolutionary War, Civil War, World War I, World War II, Vietnam, Persian Gulf, Iraq, etc. Only an ignoramus would think that the only times blacks are being celebrated is in February, and the rest of the year is "white only". Every national holiday we celebrate in this country includes other races than just white. Name ONE holiday that is celebrated in the USA that is "white only" and excludes all other races. Go ahead, name just one. I'm waiting.


    By the way, DMoney...this was obviously censorship on the school's part regardless of the kids' intentions. You always seem to be so against censorship, yet you approve of it here. Why the double standard?


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    		 You know DMoney89 you use to have a pretty level head on your shoulders, but as of late you have not only been spewing some very far left stuff on here, but also a lot of anti White rhetoric. Your thread about the Black TV shows had a tone that is out of character for you. I'm guessing things are very racially divided at your college or where you live in general. I'm getting the impression that you are hanging around some people of color that are putting some extremist ideas into your head. Trust me when I tell you that your mind set is only going to hurt you.

    Your post is so far out there I'm not even going to respond to it. These kids might have been smartass about it, but that does not mean they are racist or about "White Power!".

    Edit: Like Retromaniac said they were protesting that they had to celebrate a Mexican Holiday in the USA. I'm guessing those Hispanic kids in your link were not racist right?
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    bassman21 wrote:
    I'm guessing those Hispanic kids in your link were not racist right?


    Only whites can be racist, according to alot of people.

    The fact of the matter is that everyone seems to have a different definition of racism. To me, racism is the discrimination or hatred of a person or group of people based on race. To some other people racism is when one racial group outnumbers another in population.
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    retromaniac wrote:
    You seemed to miss the part of my post where I mentioned that some of the kids who wore the American flags are part Mexican.


    DMoney89 wrote:
    (no but wait! some of them were HALF mexican so it makes it all ok since they're still half white.
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    retromaniac wrote:
    Were these kids trying to make a statement? Of course they were. Was the statement that they are racists? Absolutely not. They are proud Americans, and they stated that they did not want to celebrate a foreign holiday that had no relevance to them.


    You can always, ya know. Just not celebrate it and ignore it. I don't celebrate Hannakuh, but I don't get a group of my friends to plan to go around Jewish events and organizations decked out in Christmas gear just to say "This is NOT a holiday that means anything to me! GO CHRISTMAS!" That gives off the impression that I believe my holiday and traditions are superior to theirs if I were to just so blatantly disrespect their culture like that. How is that acceptable?


    retromaniac wrote:
    Being American doesn't mean being "white", and being proud to be an American doesn't mean you are a white supremacist racist.


    Two things:

    1. http://www.retrojunk.com/forums/index.php?view=posts&fid=5&tid=54346
    Imagine if this was called "What's your favorite White people show?" The possibilities of answers would be endless....if people didn't get confused at what a white show meant. When they saw black show, they INSTANTLY knew what I meant. The standard Family Matters, Cosby Show, Good Times, all that showed up. Because it's so easily identified and categorized, it was easy for them to name shows. That wouldn't be the case the other way around, since the majority of shows do feature a majority white cast. Does that make it a white show? they would ask. And I would say, I don't know. If a majority black cast = black show, then a majority white cast = white show. Yes? No? Perhaps?

    2.
    Me = African American
    joeman= Hispanic American
    jujubeeme = Asian American
    You = _______ American
    White American? Caucasian American? European American? So many choices you can fill in for that...if you even have to fill it in at all according alot of people.

    retromaniac wrote:
    And what do you mean blacks only get one special month to celebrate their history? Every time we celebrate the 4th of July, Memorial Day, Labor Day, Veterans Day, etc...we are celebrating AMERICAN history, which includes every race that lives in this country, not just whites. Last time I checked, blacks also fought in the Revolutionary War, Civil War, World War I, World War II, Vietnam, Persian Gulf, Iraq, etc. Only an ignoramus would think that the only times blacks are being celebrated is in February, and the rest of the year is "white only". Every national holiday we celebrate in this country includes other races than just white. Name ONE holiday that is celebrated in the USA that is "white only" and excludes all other races. Go ahead, name just one. I'm waiting.


    1. I'm not arguing the fact that we only have one month to celebrate Black History. That's WHAT I'M AGAINST HAVING actually. The fact that Black History Month even exists and is taken so seriously is a total sham.

    2. During the beginning of American History 1945-Today, teachers feel the need to distinct "people" from "The African Americans." They never said "white people or White Americans". They assumed the default definition. You think that doesn't sink into a kid's subconscious? "My teacher keeps saying Black People and Mexican People and Asian People...I'm not any of those, so I must just be the regular people he refers to." You don't exclude anyone (allegedly). You're just the default and feel the need to point out differences of others that don't fit that default.
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  • DMoney89
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    		 AS for you, Mr. Bass...

    bassman21 wrote:
    Your thread about the Black TV shows had a tone that is out of character for you. I'm guessing things are very racially divided at your college or where you live in general. I'm getting the impression that you are hanging around some people of color that are putting some extremist ideas into your head. Trust me when I tell you that your mind set is only going to hurt you.


    That thread was a trap. I got the idea based of a similar thread. Note my last post in it. It really SHOULD have gone in the Forum of Mockery, but then I couldn't gather any serious responses.

    And no, I'm not hanging with any "people of color" putting anything anywhere. Hell I live in the most tame, don't-give-a-fuck-about-that-sorta-shit part of Georgia.

    bassman21 wrote:
    Edit: Like Retromaniac said they were protesting that they had to celebrate a Mexican Holiday in the USA. I'm guessing those Hispanic kids in your link were not racist right?


    That one kid just chose a random day during society designated Hispanic Heritage Month to wear the flag. You know. The only time of the year where you can put up posters and signs and make morning announcement promos about Hispanic heritage w/o getting into hot water. It's only after he got ousted that more people joined in. And of course when a big fight broke out between the Hispanic kids and the white kids that disagreed, only the Hispanic kids got suspended.

    lol i know, rite?
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    DMoney89 wrote:
    (no but wait! some of them were HALF mexican so it makes it all ok since they're still half white.


    You still missed what I said in the sense that you still consider them racist towards Mexicans, even though each one has a parent who's Mexican. If anything they were trying to test the limits of their free speech, not trying to be racist towards Mexicans.


    DMoney89 wrote:
    You can always, ya know. Just not celebrate it and ignore it. I don't celebrate Hannakuh, but I don't get a group of my friends to plan to go around Jewish events and organizations decked out in Christmas gear just to say "This is NOT a holiday that means anything to me! GO CHRISTMAS!" That gives off the impression that I believe my holiday and traditions are superior to theirs if I were to just so blatantly disrespect their culture like that. How is that acceptable?


    This wasn't an "event"...this was their school, and a public school at that. You can't compare yourself to trying to crash a private Jewish Hanukkah event to students wearing flag shirts to their public school which is supposed to be neutral towards all races and religions.

    And I will say it once again, regardless of what their intentions were...they should have the right to free speech just like everyone else.


    DMoney89 wrote:
    1. http://www.retrojunk.com/forums/index.php?view=posts&fid=5&tid=54346
    Imagine if this was called "What's your favorite White people show?" The possibilities of answers would be endless....if people didn't get confused at what a white show meant. When they saw black show, they INSTANTLY knew what I meant. The standard Family Matters, Cosby Show, Good Times, all that showed up. Because it's so easily identified and categorized, it was easy for them to name shows. That wouldn't be the case the other way around, since the majority of shows do feature a majority white cast. Does that make it a white show? they would ask. And I would say, I don't know. If a majority black cast = black show, then a majority white cast = white show. Yes? No? Perhaps?

    2.
    Me = African American
    joeman= Hispanic American
    jujubeeme = Asian American
    You = _______ American
    White American? Caucasian American? European American? So many choices you can fill in for that...if you even have to fill it in at all according alot of people.


    1. I'm not arguing the fact that we only have one month to celebrate Black History. That's WHAT I'M AGAINST HAVING actually. The fact that Black History Month even exists and is taken so seriously is a total sham.

    2. During the beginning of American History 1945-Today, teachers feel the need to distinct "people" from "The African Americans." They never said "white people or White Americans". They assumed the default definition. You think that doesn't sink into a kid's subconscious? "My teacher keeps saying Black People and Mexican People and Asian People...I'm not any of those, so I must just be the regular people he refers to." You don't exclude anyone (allegedly). You're just the default and feel the need to point out differences of others that don't fit that default.



    I really don't see how any of that has to do with this topic. I also can't give you much of a response, seeing that I can't answer for teachers that never refer to whites by their skin color like they do African Americans and Asians. I think it's because they are afraid of being labeled racists. It seems to be in-politically correct and racist for a person to talk highly about the "white race"...so they just leave out the "white" part to make it sound more neutral. I mean, if they were talking like this in class - "The white man did this, and the white man did that", they would be labeled racists in a second...but when they talk like this, "Man did this, and man did that"...it doesn't sound as in-politically correct.
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    retromaniac wrote:


    You still missed what I said in the sense that you still consider them racist towards Mexicans, even though each one has a parent who's Mexican. If anything they were trying to test the limits of their free speech, not trying to be racist towards Mexicans.


    DMoney89 wrote:
    (no but wait! some of them were HALF Mexican so it makes it all ok because at least they're still half white :D.



    retromaniac wrote:
    This wasn't an "event"...this was their school, and a public school at that. You can't compare yourself to trying to crash a private Jewish Hanukkah event to students wearing flag shirts [u]edit: on a day they knew they'd garner attention for it[/u] to their public school which is supposed to be neutral towards all races and religions.

    And I will say it once again, regardless of what their intentions were...they should have the right to free speech just like everyone else.


    But should it be tolerated/ accepted? That's for the principal to decide. And the principal decided it wasn't. He saw the subliminal message they were trying to pull (again, if you think this was a coincidence you're blinding yourself).
    So next week when during finals, if I get in trouble for wearing my Swatstika shirt in class that has a Jewish person/Jewish people in it (I know that since I would've been in that class the whole semester) I can just invoke my 1st Amendment clause and not get punished for it.
    Sweet :)
    You let it slide for one group, you open the door for so many more. Where's the limit? Is there one?

    retromaniac wrote:
    I really don't see how any of that has to do with this topic. I also can't give you much of a response, seeing that I can't answer for teachers that never refer to whites by their skin color like they do African Americans and Asians.


    That was a response to your notion of Everybody regardless of skin color = American, when that clearly isn't the case.

    retromaniac wrote:
    I think it's because they are afraid of being labeled racists. It seems to be in-politically correct and racist for a person to talk highly about the "white race"...so they just leave out the "white" part to make it sound more neutral. I mean, if they were talking like this in class - "The white man did this, and the white man did that", they would be labeled racists in a second...but when they talk like this, "Man did this, and man did that"...it doesn't sound as in-politically correct.


    If they wanna sound neutral, why go out of there way to single out a group even when talking about modern times? Ok I can understand during the Rival War, American/Spanish War, Civil Rights Movements, etc. But even in modern times there's still some unknown significance to race. In my health books when talking about certain diseases and whatever, the book feels the need to separate whites from blacks from Hispanics. All the categorizing of races is total bullshit, and more often than not, to the Average Joe it's the non-whites that get pegged out when talking about neutrality.

    [u]What does that mean to this to what I'm trying to say? [/u]
    It means that when all the white kids (and HALF Mexican kids) put on those T-Shirts, inadvertently or not, they said when it comes to America, they are the default race. They are the true Americans while the others are partly American. Some extremists might even say not at all.
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    		 Stars and stripes = swastika. Got it.
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    Shazbot wrote:
    Stars and stripes = swastika. Got it.


    We see the swastika as a bad thing because we're mostly told at a young age that it is bad.
    Somewhere else in the world, our stars and stripes is thought of to be a bad thing, mostly because they were told at a young age it was bad.

    So yes, stars and stripes = swastika. They can be used in a prideful way depending on where you come from.

    NEWSFLASH: America's far from ideal.
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    		 So... The American flag is comparable to an old enemy who sought to annihilate an entire race?

    ...

    Sure, makes sense to me.
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    Saruman_w wrote:
    So... The American flag is comparable to an old enemy who sought to annihilate an entire race?


    Sure is.

    Oh wait....
    You think people that DON'T dislike/hate __________ group of people and would do anything to see them out of their land for good if given the opportunity are in the MINORITY in this country, don't you?!

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