Do you believe in Evolution or Not?

Yes I do!
But that doesn't mean there isn't a Creator.

I believe it's stupid to argue over shit like this.

We're here and that's all that matters. This war between evolutionists and creationists looking for proof of their arguments is wasting not only their time, but mankind's time. We should focus time and thought over things that matter.

...I will go all oedipus up in this junk.

Yep it was a big bang and all happened by accident over billions of years...I wonder where the big mass that exploded came from...

Man we were lucky everything fell into place like it did.

I'm just glad we don't look like apes anymore.

why apes are still apes?

Who says it happened by accident? Maybe God sparked the big bang. Why couldn't God have been the designer of the natural laws of physics that caused gravity to pull the masses together to create stars and planets over the length of billions of years. Is that really hard to believe?

Also, if we were specially created by God, wouldn't we be in the center of the universe?

We do look like apes. Have you ever seen a monkey, gorilla or chimp? They look like little hairy people. Their facial features are in the front of their heads, they have thumbs, hands, arms, everything that people have. They even smile and have other similar facial expressions

You obviously don't understand how evolution works. It isn't linear, an advanced species doesn't replace another species. It works like the branches of a tree, there was a common ancestor and all the primates that followed took their own separate branches: lemurs took one branch, then monkeys took another branch, then all the great apes (including humans) took their separate branches. The reason why they are still here, is because they have successfully survived in their environment. It's really not that hard to understand. It makes perfect to me. I'm not saying there's not a God, but if there is, he created the of diversity of life on this planet using the process of evolution.

Does it make more sense to belief that it was all spoken into existence 6000 years ago like magic, and that we are all descendants of one man and one woman who were deceived by a talking snake? Come on!

I believe it's stupid to argue over shit like this.

We're here and that's all that matters. This war between evolutionists and creationists looking for proof of their arguments is wasting not only their time, but mankind's time. We should focus time and thought over things that matter.

I believe the big bang is what happened when God said, "Let there be light". However, I think the reason why a lot of creationists seem to be against the idea of the Big Bang...is because many atheists use it to try and disprove God. However, something obviously caused the Big Bang to happen. If there was absolutely nothing in existence before it happened, than it couldn't have happened at all...and since atheists have no idea what caused or sparked the Big Bang, they are in no position to use it as evidence against God's existence.

Not necessarily. Earth is in a very good spot for observing stars, planets, galaxies, etc...and I don't think this is coincidence. I think God put us here because this is a perfect spot for observing and studying his vast creation. I know there are a lot of people who think God doesn't want humans to learn anything, and that he wants us to live inside a box...but I don't think that's true at all. Also, I think if we were in the center of the universe, we wouldn't know nearly as much about space and surrounding planets and galaxies as we do now (the actual center of the universe may be a whole lot of nothing for all we know). Just because the "center of the universe" has important relevance to us...doesn't mean it does to God.

I know a lot of people see apes as proof that we have a "common ancestor"...but I see them as proof that we have a "common creator".

I am definitely more open to the idea of "theistic" evolution....where it was a process created and controlled by God. To me, atheistic evolution (no God or higher power involved) doesn't work what-so-ever, and leaves so many questions like

Why are humans the only highly advanced species out of millions of others?

Why did ferocious and deadly predators like the dinosaurs evolve into birds (scientists are now saying the raptor evolved into the turkey)?

Why did creatures that were perfectly adapted to living in water, start to evolve lungs and legs for living on land? If whales used to be giant land mammals with legs, why did they evolve to start living in the water?

Why are there so many animals alive today that are the same as they were millions of years ago?

Why do humans have hardly any hair when compared to apes (did evolution somehow know that we would eventually invent clothing to protect ourselves from the elements)?

If you ask an atheist evolutionist these questions, they will usually respond by saying, "Because that's just how nature and natural selection decided it should be". However, by saying "decided" they are basically implying that "nature" is its own intelligence. So all they have really done is replace "God" with "nature". Even atheists know that evolution doesn't work very well without some force guiding it. They just choose to call this force "natural selection"

Now, do I personally believe in evolution? Only to a certain extent. I do believe that God gave life the ability to make adaptations to changing environments, but I don't believe an animal will "evolve" into a completely different animal if given millions of years.

Yes, we do have a very large and diverse fossil record...but that doesn't automatically mean that "evolution was taking place".

Just look how many different breeds of dogs we've gotten over just a period of a few hundred years. We didn't get all those different breeds because they "evolved", we got them because we mated different types of dogs together to get new breeds. If animals with compatible DNA mate...then you will get a new breed or offshoot. However, each new breed or offshoot is just as much the same type of animal as the last one. For example, the "Liger" which is the crossing of a tiger and a lion, is still just as much a cat/feline as its parents.

I don't believe that a type of animal evolves into something completely different - fish evolving into reptiles/rodents, dinosaurs evolving into birds, etc.

If someone believes in God, and believes God is all powerful and can do anything...than obviously what makes sense or not is completely irrelevant. Matt, earlier in your post, you were getting on creationists who don't have faith that God can do anything (when bassman21 was rejecting the Big Bang)...but now you are bashing those who believe that he could have created the earth only 6,000 years ago.

However, I myself lean more towards the earth being billions of years old, rather than 6 thousand. There is no where in the Bible that flat out states the earth is 6 thousand years old. People get that number because they follow the genealogy of Jesus (who lived roughly 2,000 years go) back to Adam. I do believe the Bible is the Word of God...and I do believe that Adam and Eve were the first two humans, but I also believe that God put life on the planet WAY before he created Adam and Eve.

The Bible says he created the earth in 6 days, but that could represent long periods of time, and not literal 24 hour periods. It does say in another part of the Bible that time is nothing to God, and one day to him could be like 1,000 years to us. Now why would God create the earth in billions of years rather than just a few days? He could have created it instantly in the snap of a finger if he wanted to. I personally think he created an old earth to give us something to study and discover (just like with us being in a very convenient spot for observing the universe).

Now, I'm not totally against the idea of the earth being 6,000 years old despite leaning towards an old earth. Even though you would say all the evidence points toward the earth being much older than 6,000 years...just because the earth looks very old, doesn't mean it is (as far as someone who believes in God is concerned). Here is a good example...let's say God created a tree. He snapped his fingers, and a tree quickly grew out of the ground and became a 200 ft. tall, fully mature tree in just a matter of minutes. A couple of hours later, someone walks by and observes the tree. What is that person going to think? Obviously he's going to think a large tree like that is probably hundreds of years old, when in reality it's only been standing there for a couple of hours. So that's why I am still open to the idea of earth being 6,000 years old. Just because something appears a certain way, doesn't always mean that's how it is. Of course, I can clearly see why an atheist thinks the idea of a young earth is complete nonsense...but if you do believe in a God who can do anything, than I don't see why the idea of a young earth is unreasonable.