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I don't care much for them because they rip you off when you trade in games. let's say you bought a $50 one day, it sucked, so you return it to Eb games. They offer 10 dollars. I don't know, I never really traded anything in there but from what I hear it's a ripoff. Are you sure you want to delete this post? Yes | No 
- 8 years 4 months ago
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I agree that it's a rip-off when you're looking to sell games. I tried to sell a bunch of old NES and Genesis games I didn't want and I was offered fifty cents for each of them. I admit some of their games are priced pretty fairly (I got Space Channel 5 for two bucks...which was fine considering the game sucked), but others are just outrageous. I saw "The Legend of Zelda" for sale for $50 and I got it at a local card shop for $3.
But that is a pretty big blow - I love the older games and EB Games was my primary source for finding them. I'm also wondering why they're doing this - are they not aware of how many people are still looking for old-school games? Man I was practically peeing myself when I found Clay Fighter and Pilotwings 64, each for $5. Oh well...when they're hurting for sales, they'll know why.Are you sure you want to delete this post? Yes | No 
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wow, reading some of these replies really has me thinking you guys don't understand the first thing about how these places operate.
As a former employee of EBGames, I understand people feeling "ripped off" by getting x amount of money for their games, but I'll tell you how it works. You buy a 50$ game, open it, play it, return it the next day and get 25-30$ bucks back for it. WTF, you say? I only had it for a day! Yes, but videogamers are a fickle bunch aren't we? Alot of us don't ever buy used games, and god-forbid if the instructions are missing or the case is messed up. So in order to make any money at all, they have to upsell the games they buy from us for very little to make profit.
You guys must understand, they have to take in trades en masse, people bring in 20-30 games at a clip, sometimes entire collections, and even if the game is scratched, they have to buy them defective and refurbish them.This costs lots of money. Money that the company has to make up in their greatest place of revenue, pre-played merchandise.
As far as them not selling N64/Dreamcast/PSX games any longer, it's your own consumer fault, you have no one to blame but yourselves. You can't be mad at the company for cutting their losses. I worked at EBGames for over 2 years, and I got a pretty good feel for what the average gamer wants, and it's not the games of yesteryear. They buy all these old games, refurbish them, repackage them in some cases, all the while spending money so you can buy a used copy of Xenogears for $24.99. It just doesn't add up for them. You want old games? Look on EBay.
knesmomax- gaving been an employee of Gamestop, you ought to know that EBGames is in fact merged with Gamestop, neither store is the others "subsidiary", and never was. They were competitors up until they merged.Are you sure you want to delete this post? Yes | No - 8 years 4 months ago
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Cigarette Smoking Man wrote:wow, reading some of these replies really has me thinking you guys don't understand the first thing about how these places operate.
As a former employee of EBGames, I understand people feeling "ripped off" by getting x amount of money for their games, but I'll tell you how it works. You buy a 50$ game, open it, play it, return it the next day and get 25-30$ bucks back for it. WTF, you say? I only had it for a day! Yes, but videogamers are a fickle bunch aren't we? Alot of us don't ever buy used games, and god-forbid if the instructions are missing or the case is messed up. So in order to make any money at all, they have to upsell the games they buy from us for very little to make profit.
You guys must understand, they have to take in trades en masse, people bring in 20-30 games at a clip, sometimes entire collections, and even if the game is scratched, they have to buy them defective and refurbish them.This costs lots of money. Money that the company has to make up in their greatest place of revenue, pre-played merchandise.
As far as them not selling N64/Dreamcast/PSX games any longer, it's your own consumer fault, you have no one to blame but yourselves. You can't be mad at the company for cutting their losses. I worked at EBGames for over 2 years, and I got a pretty good feel for what the average gamer wants, and it's not the games of yesteryear. They buy all these old games, refurbish them, repackage them in some cases, all the while spending money so you can buy a used copy of Xenogears for $24.99. It just doesn't add up for them. You want old games? Look on EBay.
knesmomax- gaving been an employee of Gamestop, you ought to know that EBGames is in fact merged with Gamestop, neither store is the others "subsidiary", and never was. They were competitors up until they merged.
I worked in one as well, and you're painting the picture a lot rosier than it actually is. That $50 game you bought, then brought back usually isn't bought back for $20-30 bucks but $10-15. The EB I worked at as well as the two local ones around here offer roughly a 10% difference between used and new games. When a place like this should be giving you 30-45% of a game's resakle valkue they generally give you less, of course it depends on location and title.
As for them buing the games en masse, that's not our fault. Store policy, in most cases, is a mixture of economics and pure arbitrary rules. People are too concerned with making as much money as possibel rather than making enough money. And where I worked in Tupelo, MS we inspected the games and refused damaged goods.
Lastly, you cannot blame the consumer entirely for a change in store policy. I really would expect mroe sensible talk from someone who was on the inside, so to speak. Statistics are just part of what a company uses to make decisions on policy, products and locations. The truth is that they could make (arbitrary numbers here) 100K a year on classic ames and 200K a year on new garbage, and rather than take the 300K and be content they would drop the classic games and try and double revenue from the newer games."Now it makes me sad
It makes me mad at truth
For loving what was you"Are you sure you want to delete this post? Yes | No - 8 years 4 months ago
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Listen, I'm not going to sit idly by and let all these kids bash on EBGames/Gamestop, saying they "suck" when they truly don't understand the buisiness aspect of what the company is doing. Also, I;m not painting a "rosier" picture, I'm telling you the truth.
If you buy a 50$ game today, and return it the next, you are looking at 30-25$ for that game....it's usually that way up to 2 weeks after a games release. Sometimes 35$ for a special edition, it was like that for Halo 2, Doom 3, and Splinter Cell:CT Special Editions. What game you are trading in also plays a factor...if you trade back in the same rubbish game they already have 10 copies of, obviously you arent getting much for it. Also, sports titles are notoriously bad trades, because they will be obsolete come next year.
Wow Egon, lets see you try to keep a buisiness afloat by giving kids 30-45% of a games value back on trade! It's preposterous. Taking the trades en masse gives you more product to try and make money back on. That's why they have to take virtually everything now, becuase they will refurbish and re-sell it. Inspecting and refusing product has long become an archaic and outdated practice...they need that product, and giving their employees carte blanche to refuse it is a recipe for suicide (ex: Funcoland going the way of the dinosaur, getting bought by Gamestop).
Do you realize that videogame retailers like EB and GS make next to nothing on selling brand new games? That's why pre-played is so huge to these guys, it's their greatest source of positive income. Egon, I'm sorry man, but you're missing the ball here.wrote:Lastly, you cannot blame the consumer entirely for a change in store policy. I really would expect mroe sensible talk from someone who was on the inside, so to speak. Statistics are just part of what a company uses to make decisions on policy, products and locations. The truth is that they could make (arbitrary numbers here) 100K a year on classic ames and 200K a year on new garbage, and rather than take the 300K and be content they would drop the classic games and try and double revenue from the newer games.
This is where you are wrong, the "classic" games just don't make that kind of revenue. The average gamer is not a retrojunker. That is why we are discussing this on these boards. The average gamer wants online games, new sports games, new FPS's etc. With so many "classic" games available in ROM form, most people play them through an emulator for free and call it a day. Or they look to buy that stuff at a tag sale or flea market. These classic games were paling in sales to the current gen on XB,GC, and PS2, how bad will it be with XB360,Wii,and PS3? People want to buy new, it was a job to try to make people buy used. You ought to know this, how hard your manager wanted you to push used, if you worked there.
Besides, it's just business. If you buy something for X$, and in order to make a profit, you have to sell it for Y$. It's really quite simple. If you don't like it, don't sell your games. Ask a friend to buy it, or put your own money up and get it sold on EBay. Once you use your money, youre going to be looking for profit, so you'll sell it for what you think you can get for it. It's an old a concept as money itself people. DONT SENSELESSLY BASH unless you really know what you are talking about, kthx.Are you sure you want to delete this post? Yes | No - 8 years 4 months ago
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I agreee with Cigarette Smoking Man. How would they make a profit if they gave it back to you for half the amount. If you want to get rid of the games, sell them on ebay. It's cheap, easy to use, and almost cost free.(ebay includes fees, but they're not that much.) You'll be surprised how many games you'll sell after putting them on ebay. It's just common sense. So unless you don't have the time. Sell the on ebay(even though I am a loyal gamestop customer) Are you sure you want to delete this post? Yes | No - 8 years 4 months ago
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EB games can blow me.
When they sell used games for 5 bucks cheaper and half the time don't even have the manual or boxes, you know they got issues. If a game doesn't have a box and manual, thats 5 bucks to start, then another 10 bucks off because its used. So a 50 dollar game would be 35. Dang, 40 would be better for a used game that retails at 50. But 45.99? I rathe r buy the game new for 5 more bucks and get the box and book! I did that with MarioKart when 3 ebagmes only had 1 used Mario Kart in a baggy no box or book for 31.99!
To hell with those foosl who want 80% value on their game, they should only get 10% for beeing stupid.
I could care less how much EBgames gives for games beeing sold back, you are a FRIGGIN IDIOT if you sell you game a day or even a week later back, becaus eyou beat itor its lame, that s why you friggin rent the dman thing and save oodles of money. My friend buys games, plays them for a few days then takes them back for store credit..WTF???
I also hate how ebgames (and yes some othe rplaces) will rely almost soley on pre-ordering, so that they onyl have a few copies that are walk-in and buy. This is only logical if there is game shortages (which is rare), yet they do it almst exclusively with every friggin title.
Craigslist.com, or ebay.com people.Are you sure you want to delete this post? Yes | No - 8 years 4 months ago
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Man, you guys still don't get it.
It's a business, they have programs like the 10% discount card for saving extra money when you buy pre-played, and you can always trade for store credit, in which case you get a better value on your trade-in.
The price of used games is directly linked to how A)popular and B)rare the game is. A used copy of Mario Kart would generally sell for more used than your average game, because it's a Mario game, and hey, who doesn't dig MK? The game is popular, so therefore isn't traded in often, and is henceforth more expensive.
Games that were made in limited release quantities will also have a higher price tag on them. Also, the store sells the games you want, they never guaranteed they would come with the boxes or manuals. It's up to you whether you want the game solely for gameplay, or because you are a collector.
You people act like they hold a gun to your head and force you to buy the games, or trade them in for that matter. You say you are getting ripped off, but your'e buying it/trading it, not them. They are only selling it/buying it for what makes financial sense to them as a corporation. You say they suck, but consumers are what shapes businesses.
Adventure_of_Link - no one is flaming here, just people making points and counterpoints. Do you have anything relevant to add to the discussion?
the80's - you.....definetly don't get it. And you are confusing as well. You say "EBGames can blow you", but you sound as though your'e angrier at your friend for being fool enough to not simply rent instead of buying and trading in. Again, that's the consumer's folly, and has nothing to do with EBG/GS.
Also, pre-orders are a way of getting people back into your store. They are a vital part of keeping people coming back. However, it's extremely rare for them not to have copies for over the counter sale. That only ususally happens for games with huge hype, like Halo 2, Madden, Zelda etc. They allow for pre-order on every title, and it helps them to not get far too many copies that they can't push out. It's of way of keeping track of projected sales as well. Again, if the game means so much to you, why not pre-order and guarantee you get one? If not, too bad, so sad man.Are you sure you want to delete this post? Yes | No 
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Cigarette Smoking Man wrote:Adventure_of_Link - no one is flaming here, just people making points and counterpoints. Do you have anything relevant to add to the discussion?The Board Rules wrote:1. No flaming, trolling, harassing, or baiting other guests.
Flaming should be self evident, trolling means to make posts or threads for the intended purpose of starting an argument, while baiting is any post intended to make another user resort to flaming. Harassment means following a user or group of users around through multiple threads to flame them, bait them, or otherwise cause them to want to avoid the boards because of a user's actions towards them.
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Cigarette man I get it perfectly. i don't care how popular mario kart is, it was used WITHOUT A BOOK AND BOX and they wanted 4 dollars less then new.
There is nothing you can say to justify that. We know thye have to make money, and we know they are scmamign peopel to do it, thats what you do not get obviously. i mean it is super clear it is a scam. Why defend them? They know the yare scmamign as well, and they don't care amnd the people who use ebgames do not care either. i do however which is wh yI do not shop there. That simple.
And to that deffinition of a TROLL, i disagree, all threads whch turn into debates are not trolls, that term is way to loose. A true troll onyl wishes to start discord with another person, while someone who starts a thread for DEBATE is someone who wishes to have an adult conversation with those who disagree with them.
Simply splashing the TROLL term on anyone who startsa debate is wrong to do, and very misleading. people abuse the term trol lall the time, especially when they disgaree with someone's point, a lot of times they will label that perosn a troll for simply not agreeing with them.Are you sure you want to delete this post? Yes | No - 8 years 4 months ago
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link- I get it pal, youre a mod. Neat.
80's - thank you for staying cool about it and defending our right to debate. Let's continue:
If it really was only 5 bucks less than new, then I would assume it was some time ago? Surely you aren't saying that's the case now? I mean, I haven't been into an EBGames in some time, but surely the price of a pre-played MarioKart has dropped past a five dollar difference from new by now! Also, as I said before, having no manual or case is not the fault of the store selling it, and it's the actual game thats value is in question here.
You see, many people don't rent anymore. They see commercials, read videogame mags, and get hype from their buddies. They buy a brand new game at it's release....and hate it. Now, they can trade it in or take it as a total loss, as you cannot return opened merchandise without a valid defect. That's how you get the "used game that sells for 5$ less than new", even though it's maybe been played once or twice,it most likely still has all the instructions and case, is probably in great shape&scratch free.
You buy it, get a 10% discount card for virtually nothing (it costs an additional $.50), and now any time you buy a used anything there, be it a CD,DVD, or videogame, you save money. Say you walk in a week after Halo 2's release, and you see two copies. One retails at 52.99$ new (as the sales tax goes here), the other for 47.69$ used. If the used is in good shape, and you get a 10% discount for a year after buying it, why not go for it? The collector/fanboy will buy new no question, but the casual/thrifty gamer may choose used, and end up saving more $$ over the course of the next year via his 10% pre-played discount.
Listen, I'm certainly not trying to argue with you here, and it may seem like I'm "defending" EBGames/Gamestop, but I'm really just playing Devil's Advocate and trying to open people's eyes to how the system operates. It bothers me terribly when people post "this sucks" and have no valid reasons to support their venomous claims. But please don't say they are scamming people, that's just paranoid. They are running a business, games go down in price gradually. They offer to allow you to trade in for full store credit,they offer a 10% discount card, which, get this, pays for itself when purchased with a newer used game of $44.99 or greater. That validates a used game costing so much.
They really are offering to save you money over the course of a year, should you commit to buying used games from them often. It's no secret thats how they work.It's not a scam!Are you sure you want to delete this post? Yes | No - 8 years 4 months ago
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Well, as I said it really is choice. The mario kart was last week and it was 31.99 for a game in a plastic baggy lol. The fault lies in the fact that ebgames is selling a used game in a paper sack for near the cost that it is brand new.
I mean i'd just assume buy a brand new game with the box and book for 5 bucks more.
I can see your point Cig if someone has the extra 10%, then the savings woudl be worth it, and if you bought a lot of games especially. and you do not care about books or boxes.
I will concede to this, and admit I am wrong.
However, I rarely buy games at all, I just rent them unless they are awesome games I just have to have, this is probably why my perspective is different so I still think it is a scam lol, sorry, but in order to get those savings you have to buy a lot of games and pay for their lil club, instead of them just pricing the damn game at 25 bucks, you have to jump through all these hoops. because someoen liek me walks in and not interested in buying 20 games a year, and they try to sell me some used game to save 3 to 5 bucks on an incomplete package.
So we are half and half here, and thats better then where we started.Are you sure you want to delete this post? Yes | No
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