• santuel
    • 8 years 4 months ago
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    		 NWN is just Baldur's Gate with a worse storyline and better graphics, with more online play. I really don't see how that makes it the better RPG
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    • System
      • 8 years 4 months ago
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      		 what? the storyline in nwn is awesome, i mean baldurs gate has an awesome story to, so to me they are equal in that area. the very fact that nwn has infinite story lines helps as well, also the underdark expansion pretty much dominates balurs gate's story.

      so then we must move on to other factors.

      nwn's modding tools far exceed baldurs gate, extending the life of nwn to infinity, accuratley mimicking pen and paper dnd to near perfection, especially with the dm tool, which allows someone to actually be a dm in onlien adventures. plus online you do not have ot be on the same stupid screen.

      ok so now we know nwn online dominates baldurs gate.

      graphics are better to, so now we know that.

      the game mechanics are stremalined and that makes nwn more entertianing, so knwo we know that controls and combat system is better then baldurs gate.

      more classes, sub classes skills and spells in nwn. more availibility to fine tune your character.

      now we know the class system/spell system is better than baldurs gate.

      see? not just online is better, the whole game is better.
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      • Video Jukebox
        • 8 years 4 months ago
        • Posts: 1069
        		 NWN is definitely a lot of fun-- can't wait until NWN2 comes out in September-- but my first love is Baldur's Gate. Call it a matter of taste, but I think (POSSIBLE MINOR SPOILERS AHEAD):


        --BG's storyline was better. Don't want to spoil the game, but I nearly shed a tear during BG:ToB's final scene. I didn't care as much about my character as much in NWN.
        --having five other characters in your party trumps having one or two follow-along mercs. Granted, in NWN:HotU (and only that expansion), they let your party members speak more independently, but, in BG2, most of your party members had individual subquests-- every time you played the game with a different party, you'd get different subquests. Plus, in both BGs, conversations would pop up spontaneously between characters depending on who you had in your party, so you really sensed that the characters in your party were actual people.
        --there was more of an explorability factor in BG1. All sorts of quests and villains with lots of goodies were just randomly scattered across the map, and the only way you could find them was to search every inch of the Sword Coast. NWN has a little of that, but its fog of war more often than not obscures parts of quests you'd already started rather than hides new quests.
        --BGII had stronghold quests, a different one for nearly every class. So, every time you played the game with a character of a different class, you'd get a different stronghold with different quests associated with it.
        --Better voice acting in some scenes. David Warner-- the actor who played Evil in Time Bandits and Jenner the photographer in the original Omen-- was the voice of the villain in BGII.
        --Minsc. Need I say more? "Butt-kicking for goodness!"
        --there were some things about the 2nd edition system I like better, like being able to reroll and adjust your stats until you got some that were good enough to make your character stand out instead of just getting the standard 30 points everyone gets.

        EDIT: I should note that I'm not big on online gaming, so I really can't judge a game based on that that aspect of it.
        "Preserving the old ways from being abused,
        Protecting the new ways for me and for you.
        What more can we do?"
        --The Kinks, "Village Green Preservation Society"
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        • System
          • 8 years 4 months ago
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          		 nwn2 will rock, to bad the graphcisd are sio intensive it needs an awesome gcard..damn games today makign you spend more money just to play them.
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          • System
            • 8 years 3 months ago
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            Borgem wrote:
            Ultima VII part 1 & 2 (if you can find them)


            I would easily make these two the best PCRPGs I have ever played. Unfortunately, as mentioned, they're hard to find, and the hardware requirements are weird... You'd have to find a much older PC to get it to work.

            I also vividly remember playing all the Gold Box SSI Dungeons and Dragons games, like Pools of Darkness, Gateway/Treasures of the Savage Frontier, and Secret of the Silver Blades.
            No Pools of Radiance though. That game was freakin impossible.

            [u]Arcanum[/u] - This game was based in a fantasy world that was magic vs technoligy, and had an open ended story and character creation. The really bad part about the game was that Magic was extremely overpowered compared to technology.

            [u]Fallout 2[/u] - A great open ended game, but the combat AI was a little dumb sometimes...
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            • System
              • 8 years 3 months ago
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              		 i was about to say Runescape but i thought that games gay
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