• Pokejedservo
    • 8 years 7 months ago
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    		 Video Game Systems that are more "ahead of their time", something that is more of a curse than a blessing.

    Sega Game Gear, Sega Dreamcast, Sony PSP, Atari Lynx, Neo-Geo AES... These are just examples of consoles that were considered to be "ahead of their times". It might seem like cool innovations unfortunately that kind of term ends up being more a curse than a blessing.

    How so you ask? Simple they are often far more expensive to develop for and the games and the like are more expensive to buy. And for handhelds they were often far from Battery-efficient and often pretty expensive to go for that. And they often enough have had limited themselves compared to more timely released consoles. They try to be genuinely innovative but in the end they more end up as consoles that tried way too hard and not get enough in return.

    Which console do you think would've benefitted the most out of a more timely release? I would easily say a good amount of the Sega consoles ESPECIALLY for the Dreamcast. (If it had a DVD playback feature like how the PS2 did it would've been fine, DVD playback on a console is a subpar gimmick now but it wasn't so back then.) I could say the same thing for the Neo-Geo AES as well.

    What are your picks? Which "Ahead of its Time" console do you really think would've benefitted by a more timely release?
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    • adventure_of_link
      • 8 years 7 months ago
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      		 Hands down, XBox 360.

      Why ?

      Do you see PC's toting three dual-core CPU's (especially cells) ? Hell no !

      yet these things still sell fo $400

      WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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      • Mad-Mike
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        		 It used to be you could sell on games alone, now it's all capitalizing on the end-user's ignorance. Game consoles are almost always behind the times by technology. The 8-Bit Nintendo ran on a CPU that was used in the Commodore 64 years before, and used in many home-brew kit computers even farther back. The Sega Genesis ran on a CPU akin to one found in the original Macintosh in 1984, and the Xbox ran on a Pentium III, while PIV 2.0 GHz was the thing to have.

        The way I see it, just get a PC, soon they'll be as cheap as game consoles anyhow.
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        • Pokejedservo
          • 8 years 7 months ago
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          Mad-Mike wrote:
          It used to be you could sell on games alone, now it's all capitalizing on the end-user's ignorance. Game consoles are almost always behind the times by technology. The 8-Bit Nintendo ran on a CPU that was used in the Commodore 64 years before, and used in many home-brew kit computers even farther back. The Sega Genesis ran on a CPU akin to one found in the original Macintosh in 1984, and the Xbox ran on a Pentium III, while PIV 2.0 GHz was the thing to have.

          The way I see it, just get a PC, soon they'll be as cheap as game consoles anyhow.


          I did not know this, heh cool thanks for the info my good man...
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          • adventure_of_link
            • 8 years 7 months ago
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            Mad-Mike wrote:
            The way I see it, just get a PC, soon they'll be as cheap as game consoles anyhow.


            As if they aren't already there.

            but wait, with this thing called Windows Vista, it'll make computers cost as much as they did ~10 years ago just to run it. Yeah, I've done some research on newegg, and apparently you can get a board, videocard, CPU, and RAM for ~$800. But this still doesn't count your power supply (I'd recommend 500 watts or more), case, keyboard, drives, mouse, and monitor.

            Also, the sad thing about last-gen (1999-late 2005), when you owned all the games on one console, you pretty much had the whole library for the others.
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            • Mad-Mike
              • 8 years 7 months ago
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              adventure_of_link wrote:
              Mad-Mike wrote:
              The way I see it, just get a PC, soon they'll be as cheap as game consoles anyhow.


              As if they aren't already there.

              but wait, with this thing called Windows Vista, it'll make computers cost as much as they did ~10 years ago just to run it. Yeah, I've done some research on newegg, and apparently you can get a board, videocard, CPU, and RAM for ~$800. But this still doesn't count your power supply (I'd recommend 500 watts or more), case, keyboard, drives, mouse, and monitor.

              Also, the sad thing about last-gen (1999-late 2005), when you owned all the games on one console, you pretty much had the whole library for the others.


              I'm not even bothering with Vista, except to learn it for work. Otherwise, I'm not using it. If Microsoft is dumb enough to produce a product that has all that glitz and glam yet is just the same as XP otherwise, I'm really not interested. I've been using Windows 98 SE for the last 5 years with no problems (once I got a computer decent enough to run it fast enough for my taste), and I've been using Fedora Core more and more because I like Windows for games more than anything else.
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              • adventure_of_link
                • 8 years 7 months ago
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                		 Good points.

                But, Vista iirc is largely rewritten. Also, they're going to stop supporting 9x windows (95/98/98SE/ME) this July, just so you know. :)
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                • Mad-Mike
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                  		 I have no idea what the big stink is about Microsoft support. So what if there are no new programs, there are plenty out there to do the things you need them to do, and it's not like I ever call Tech Support anyway (call centers are a major irk of mine). Windows is a piece of cake to figure out compared to linux that's for sure. Every time there's a new windows version half the tech industry has a big cow about "support". I know people who still use Windows 3.1, with cable internet, and no troubles either.

                  Vista may be re-written, but from what I've seen so far, it's mostly an excuse to put a bunch more fancy graphic shenannigans in there to waste processor time, rather than add that much more that's useful. Every time someone tells me about it, they mention the "transparent windows" and "animated icons", so what!?!? How does this improve web surfing? How does it improve security. That's why I really think Microsoft is beating a dead horse with vista. Besides, the push for higher hardware requirements is a push by the industry to make money. All these companies are out there to do is make money, Dell could make crap on a stick with a Microsoft Badge on it and call it gold, and there would be a taker somewhere (even if for the novelty value of it).

                  That's why I think having a game system now is almost moot. They all cost $200-400 bux and are slower than a computer for $400 with more processing power. Like all things "business" it's based off of money and the public's ignorance. I just feel as though one should upgrade to a new O/S or new hardware because one has a legitamate need for it, and not because it's the hottest thing on the market. XP provides me nothing 98 SE and Linux can give me, heck, 98 only just barely surpasses my old copy of Windows For Workgroups 3.11 in fucntionality now, I can do everything except play the latest games using 3.11, and that's fine with me.
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                  • adventure_of_link
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                    		 I was mainly talking about security updates as far as support goes...

                    But, whatever.
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