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    • 11 months 1 day ago
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    His racist remarks got him in all sorts of trouble.

    http://news.msn.com/us/la-clippers-owner-donald-sterling-banned-for-life
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      The guy is obviously of the worst sort. However, I don't believe anyone should be able to force him to sell his team.
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        What about that mistress! Talk about a gold digger, that women has no shame. She's basically an overpriced street whore.
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          • 11 months 1 day ago
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          Disregard the "Ex-Clippers owner" part.

          He still owns the team, but he won't be allowed at games and practices.
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            • 11 months 1 day ago
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            I'm sorry, but don't most people end up saying bad stuff behind people's back when enraged?
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              I'm not saying I agree with his views, but I completely disagree with anyone being punished for something they said in private, especially when they've been illegally recorded. It's not a crime to have certain beliefs or feelings towards another race, and it's certainly not a crime to express those beliefs, but the way this country is going, it soon will be.
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                • 11 months 1 day ago
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                This guy needs a lecture in racism. Someone should remind him of the 1960s, Martin Luther King and Birmingham, Alabama.
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                  • 11 months 1 day ago
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                  Fuzz wrote:
                  I'm not saying I agree with his views, but I completely disagree with anyone being punished for something they said in private, especially when they've been illegally recorded. It's not a crime to have certain beliefs or feelings towards another race, and it's certainly not a crime to express those beliefs, but the way this country is going, it soon will be.


                  No, it's not a crime to express your beliefs (no matter how ignorant they may be). It's also illegal to be recorded. Sterling is free to sue the person who made the recordings, but the NBA isn't a court of law. What the NBA does have is certain rules to fit the organization. He broke those rules and now he has to face the consequences. If he wants to yell that ignorant garbage from the rooftops, he's free to. But the NBA and its sponsors are not forced to put up with it and the First Amendment doesn't make it a law that they have to.

                  I think Adam Silver and the NBA did an outstanding thing by banning this prick. No one is forcing him to sell his team, but I imagine he'll have to or the value will plummet. I'm sure the guy from Duck Dynasty would sponsor him, but that's about it.
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                    • 11 months 5 hours ago
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                    Derk wrote:
                    [No, it's not a crime to express your beliefs (no matter how ignorant they may be). It's also illegal to be recorded. Sterling is free to sue the person who made the recordings, but the NBA isn't a court of law. What the NBA does have is certain rules to fit the organization. He broke those rules and now he has to face the consequences. If he wants to yell that ignorant garbage from the rooftops, he's free to. But the NBA and its sponsors are not forced to put up with it and the First Amendment doesn't make it a law that they have to.

                    I think Adam Silver and the NBA did an outstanding thing by banning this prick. No one is forcing him to sell his team, but I imagine he'll have to or the value will plummet. I'm sure the guy from Duck Dynasty would sponsor him, but that's about it.

                    So speaking hypothetically, say your wife or girlfriend secretly recorded you in your home bashing your boss or the company you work for. You guys broke up, and then she sent the recording to them, resulting in you getting fired. You would be perfectly okay with that? I highly doubt it.

                    Again, while I don't support the guy's view and realize he's probably a royal asshole, I don't feel someone should be punished for something they've said in private, should what was said become public without their consent. I think there should be protections put in place for situations like this.

                    I find it highly ironic that an employer can't punish or discriminate based on someone's faith, but can punish indiscriminately for someone's personal opinions. It makes no sense.
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                      • 11 months 3 hours ago
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                      Fuzz wrote:
                      Derk wrote:
                      [No, it's not a crime to express your beliefs (no matter how ignorant they may be). It's also illegal to be recorded. Sterling is free to sue the person who made the recordings, but the NBA isn't a court of law. What the NBA does have is certain rules to fit the organization. He broke those rules and now he has to face the consequences. If he wants to yell that ignorant garbage from the rooftops, he's free to. But the NBA and its sponsors are not forced to put up with it and the First Amendment doesn't make it a law that they have to.

                      I think Adam Silver and the NBA did an outstanding thing by banning this prick. No one is forcing him to sell his team, but I imagine he'll have to or the value will plummet. I'm sure the guy from Duck Dynasty would sponsor him, but that's about it.

                      So speaking hypothetically, say your wife or girlfriend secretly recorded you in your home bashing your boss or the company you work for. You guys broke up, and then she sent the recording to them, resulting in you getting fired. You would be perfectly okay with that? I highly doubt it.

                      Again, while I don't support the guy's view and realize he's probably a royal asshole, I don't feel someone should be punished for something they've said in private, should what was said become public without their consent. I think there should be protections put in place for situations like this.

                      I find it highly ironic that an employer can't punish or discriminate based on someone's faith, but can punish indiscriminately for someone's personal opinions. It makes no sense.


                      That's a little different. If I'm bashing that particular boss for being a terrible person or because I just don't like him, that's one thing. If he's of a different race and I'm throwing out racial slurs, then yes, I deserve to be fired. Of course my hypothetical self wouldn't be okay with it, but I would absolutely deserve it.

                      Again, the NBA isn't a court of law. If Sterling has an issue with the recording, he'll have to sue the person who made them. However, the NBA is a business and they (rightfully so) do not want someone like Sterling to be apart of their organization.

                      I would also argue that someone's faith is a bit different than someone being a flat-out open racist. If I own a company or a business, I don't mind hiring someone of any faith. However, I'm not going to hire some ignorant racist asshole because I don't want that type of person to represent my company. In my opinion, ignorance should not be brushed aside and tolerated. Guys like Sterling don't deserve any sympathy.
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                        It's hard to sympathize with Sterling. He should learn from Michael Richards' mistake.
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                          Derk wrote:
                          That's a little different. If I'm bashing that particular boss for being a terrible person or because I just don't like him, that's one thing. If he's of a different race and I'm throwing out racial slurs, then yes, I deserve to be fired. Of course my hypothetical self wouldn't be okay with it, but I would absolutely deserve it.

                          It's not different. Both are something you said in private, not intended to be heard by anyone in the public. No crime committed in either case.

                          Derk wrote:
                          Again, the NBA isn't a court of law. If Sterling has an issue with the recording, he'll have to sue the person who made them. However, the NBA is a business and they (rightfully so) do not want someone like Sterling to be apart of their organization.

                          Yes, we already established that fact, and I haven't disputed it. What I'm saying is I believe there should be protections in place for someone who was illegally recorded in private without consent. One should not have to fear risk of losing their job, or in this case something they own, for something that was said in the privacy of their own home. Yes, NBA owners need to act a certain way when in the public eye, but no entity, including an employer, has the right to dictate what you do or say in the privacy of your own home. We as a society however, are letting just that happen.


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                          It's hard to sympathize with Sterling. He should learn from Michael Richards' mistake.

                          Totally two different scenarios. Michael Richards' went off in public directly at members of the race he was insulting. Sterling was illegally recorded in private by someone he trusted.



                          There's no denying that Sterling is an asshole. I'm not disagreeing. What I'm disagreeing with is the ability of an employer to punish someone for something that was legally said in the privacy of their own home.
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                            fuzz wrote:
                            It's not different. Both are something you said in private, not intended to be heard by anyone in the public. No crime committed in either case.


                            Okay? No one is saying Sterling committed a crime. He broke a rule and is being punished for it. Again, freedom of speech doesn't give you freedom of consequence from saying stupid things.

                            fuzz wrote:
                            Totally two different scenarios. Michael Richards' went off in public directly at members of the race he was insulting. Sterling was illegally recorded in private by someone he trusted.


                            How is this so different? Michael Richards was shown to be a racist and his career has suffered for it. Sterling has been shown to be a racist and his career is suffering for it.

                            Honestly, what did you expect the NBA to do? Just overlook it? Filmed with consent or not, they as an organization can't just sit back and let someone like this represent their brand. I can't say I blame them.
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                              Never saw a team owner being banned from his own team's games,
                              but from what I heard he really sounds like a racist dickhead.
                              I'm sure he'll sell the team soon because this is doing nothing
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                                Now they're saying he has cancer. :(
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                                  He just needs to do what all these other famous people have been doing, go check in to rehab...
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                                    • 10 months 24 days ago
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                                    Derk wrote:
                                    fuzz wrote:
                                    Totally two different scenarios. Michael Richards' went off in public directly at members of the race he was insulting. Sterling was illegally recorded in private by someone he trusted.


                                    How is this so different? Michael Richards was shown to be a racist and his career has suffered for it. Sterling has been shown to be a racist and his career is suffering for it.

                                    I'm pretty sure I explained how. Richards was in public. Sterling was in private. One should expect a severe backlash when presenting a racist tirade to the world as Richards did by doing it in public. However, Sterling's comments were never meant to be heard by anyone outside his home.

                                    You guys seem to be ignoring the simple point I'm trying to make. I'm not defending or condemning racism. I'm simply saying there should be protections in place when one's right to privacy is blatantly violated with an illegal recording by a third party. Without, this opens up a huge door for employers, schools, etc. to punish people for something said or done in the privacy of their homes.
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                                      Fuzz wrote:
                                      Derk wrote:
                                      fuzz wrote:
                                      Totally two different scenarios. Michael Richards' went off in public directly at members of the race he was insulting. Sterling was illegally recorded in private by someone he trusted.


                                      How is this so different? Michael Richards was shown to be a racist and his career has suffered for it. Sterling has been shown to be a racist and his career is suffering for it.

                                      I'm pretty sure I explained how. Richards was in public. Sterling was in private. One should expect a severe backlash when presenting a racist tirade to the world as Richards did by doing it in public. However, Sterling's comments were never meant to be heard by anyone outside his home.

                                      You guys seem to be ignoring the simple point I'm trying to make. I'm not defending or condemning racism. I'm simply saying there should be protections in place when one's right to privacy is blatantly violated with an illegal recording by a third party. Without, this opens up a huge door for employers, schools, etc. to punish people for something said or done in the privacy of their homes.


                                      And I think you seem to be ignoring the fact that you're defending an old billionaire racist. The NBA is entitled to run their organization how they see fit. They don't want that guy representing them and I don't blame them.
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                                        I think he's no doubt a racist. But when you consider how old he is, you have to feel sorry for the people of his generation.
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                                          90sTVandRadio wrote:
                                          I think he's no doubt a racist. But when you consider how old he is, you have to feel sorry for the people of his generation.


                                          Do you, though? I mean, after a while it should hit you that you're an ignorant ass and you should learn from the mistakes of your generation.
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