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    I don't think these "cultural decades" have particular beginning and ending points. You can say a band or a TV show or a fad is from the X0s but it's not so that everything that happened in 1983 to 1990 "is eighties" and anything that happened in 1982 is not.
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      Laddersnake wrote:
      So many errors in the original post.

      4. You pretty much can draw a line in the sand. 1989 will have similarities and differences to 1988 just like it will have similarities and differences to 1990. But at least 1989 is numerically the 80s, unlike 1990.


      So 1960 belongs more with 1969 than it does with the 50s just because it's part of the 1960s? So by your analysis, we might as well assume the year 1960 was full of hippies, The Beatles, love-ins and so on. No, 1960 was the Fifties in everything but name. That's the point I'm trying to make. When we refer to a decade, we are as much referencing an era as we are a literal date on the calendar. Though for post-2000 decades that probably won't be so much the case, since we don't seem to characterize the years 2000-2009 as being defined by any certain thing.
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        stake n sheak wrote:
        I don't think these "cultural decades" have particular beginning and ending points. You can say a band or a TV show or a fad is from the X0s but it's not so that everything that happened in 1983 to 1990 "is eighties" and anything that happened in 1982 is not.


        I think the 80s culturally speaking lasted from about late 1980/early 1981 to late 1990/early 1991. And probably the date could change a bit depending on what country you're talking about. In Canada for example the 80s lasted longer, up to about 1993 maybe. Alanis Morrisette released a Tiffany-esque album up there back in 1991 that had a similar sound to Tiffany's popular 1987 album.

        The Gulf War and the economic recession associated with it probably is ultimately what killed off the 80s culture and allowed grunge to rule the roost. That and the fact that even in the late 80s a lot of people were turning off from the current pop culture.
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          So BY YOUR ANALYSIS, The Age of Plastic is a 70s album, because it came out in Feb 1980.
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            Laddersnake wrote:


            Have you been living under a rock or something? The 00s was the decade that reality competitions became ubiquitous. Also, I get what you're saying about the 60s but the 90s isn't as cut and dry as that. The early 90s still had some hair metal culture and other culture associated with the late 80s. Grunge was popular in the mid 90s, while boy/girl groups were popular in the late 90s. You can say 1999 was like 2000 but then again it was also like 1998. In turn, 1998 was like 1997. In turn, 1997 was like 1996 and so forth.


            Of course any two years are going to be similar, but my point is there was no noticeable paradigm shift whatsoever between 1999 and 2000. I see far more evidence of a shift starting to become apparent in 2001. With Clinton leaving, 9/11, the boybands breaking up, high-speed internet starting to become widespread and affordable, the second wave of gangsta rap starting.

            As for reality TV, I don't really see it as a specifically 00s thing since it has continued into this decade. Of course, some of the original shows like Survivor and American Idol have declined in popularity, but reality television itself seems to have no end in sight.

            It is true that reality television started to become popular just about right at the 1999/2000 mark, though. But with 1990, aside from the collapse of the Japanese stock market, which literally happened right on 1 January 1990, I can't think of anything that makes 1990 hugely different from 1989. It was just continuing the events that began in 1989, such as the collapse of communism and rap music becoming more popular.
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              Laddersnake wrote:
              You can say 1999 was like 2000 but then again it was also like 1998. In turn, 1998 was like 1997. In turn, 1997 was like 1996 and so forth.

              Thank you!
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                Technically from 1980-1989. In practice/reality from 1980-1991.
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                  Decades don't really suddenly end but rather there is just a point where the old paradigm is eclipsed by the new one. There tends to be a mixing period of a few years. For the 80s/90s that would be 1989-93, for the 90s/00s that would be 1998-2005 and for the 00s/10s maybe 06-11 or so.

                  The decades since the 90s have been less markedly different so the transitions are much longer and blurrier, I think. The only thing that continues to change rapidly is technology. I think all of the years since 1992 only count for one 70s or one 80s to be honest.
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                    Sub-decades?
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                      stake n sheak wrote:
                      Sub-decades?


                      Yes I guess you could say so.
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                        donnie darko wrote:
                        Decades don't really suddenly end but rather there is just a point where the old paradigm is eclipsed by the new one. There tends to be a mixing period of a few years. For the 80s/90s that would be 1989-93, for the 90s/00s that would be 1998-2005 and for the 00s/10s maybe 06-11 or so.

                        The decades since the 90s have been less markedly different so the transitions are much longer and blurrier, I think. The only thing that continues to change rapidly is technology. I think all of the years since 1992 only count for one 70s or one 80s to be honest.




                        2005? YouTube, Facebook and Wikipedia were all around then. It's hard case to consider 2005 in the same boat as 1998. As for your "longer transitions", apart from fashion...just no.
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                          80's as a decade ended 12/31/89 and 90's as a decade ended 12/31/99 but culturally it's not so easy to say. I was born in 1992 and when I look at pictures from that time when I was born my mom and everybody else's clothes and hairstyles still look to be very much in 80's style and when you compare clothing styles for example from 91 to 97 there seems to be a difference. Then when you compare styles from early 00's they have more in common with styles from late 90's than the styles from early 90's has.
                          So I'd say that 80's ended culturally in the early 90's and then 90's culturally ended in the early 00's
                          These cultural transitions between decades can often be seen from movies from those times. It seems that 80's started 81-83 but between 80's and 90's the transition seems to have been slower so it's really hard to put a year on it but it was probably sometimes between late 91 to early 93. And same way it seems to me that 90's ended around 01-03 so I guess you could consider any decade culturally ending couple years after it has actually ended...
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                            Probably in mid-late 1991. The 80s were killed by Nirvana (I'm not saying that Nirvana is bad, but that was when 80s culture ended and 90s culture began in my opinion. Nirvana was a very good group that will never be forgotten).
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                              Laddersnake wrote:
                              donnie darko wrote:
                              Decades don't really suddenly end but rather there is just a point where the old paradigm is eclipsed by the new one. There tends to be a mixing period of a few years. For the 80s/90s that would be 1989-93, for the 90s/00s that would be 1998-2005 and for the 00s/10s maybe 06-11 or so.

                              The decades since the 90s have been less markedly different so the transitions are much longer and blurrier, I think. The only thing that continues to change rapidly is technology. I think all of the years since 1992 only count for one 70s or one 80s to be honest.




                              2005? YouTube, Facebook and Wikipedia were all around then. It's hard case to consider 2005 in the same boat as 1998. As for your "longer transitions", apart from fashion...just no.


                              Eh, Youtube was nothing in 2005...same with wikipedia. Fledgling stages for those.

                              Facebook was a phenomenon with the college students in 2005, and they were the only ones allowed on at that point.

                              The problem with this sort of topic is it's subjective and everyone is just trying to speak in generalities.

                              I can definitely recognize an "80s sound" in music, though. Even if I've never heard a song before, I can tell within the first few bars it's an 80s song. Well, the one exception to this is "What I Am" by Edie Brickell. That doesn't sound 80s.
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                                I have the same opnion as Karmen Rider that the 90's ended in 2001 and i blame 9/11
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                                  retroman wrote:
                                  I have the same opnion as Karmen Rider that the 90's ended in 2001 and i blame 9/11


                                  Ok kid come here. Jump up whoop!... sit tight. Listen. This is a forum to express yourself with either some comic undertones or following the OP statement/line of thought. No, this is not an online course which you have to reply to at least two of your peers.
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                                    My 80's ended with the releases of Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis, I was about 9 Years old. No more hunting for change and cashing in bottles to go play arcades at the pizzeria, video store, and laundry mat. When I got both systems I could play titles like Street Fighter, Ghosts and goblins, Pit Fighter, Altered Beast, etc. at home. I forgot about the fun of playing at arcade machines with and against random people, waiting for my turn and meeting new people in the process; I was content with gaming at home for free. So these video game consoles changed (to some degree) the way I would spend my time, and set the pace for my early 90’s, mostly indoors lifestyle. Up until about 1994, we moved to Cleveland Ohio and I made friends who played sport every day, thank goodness for that.
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                                      The 80s officially ended when the "Smells Like Teen Spirit" video premiered on MTV.
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                                        chokeslam wrote:
                                        The 80s officially ended when the "Smells Like Teen Spirit" video premiered on MTV.

                                        LOL what?! :lol: It premiered in 1991! :lol:
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                                          Now we are getting somewhere. Official. We just need to find out which authority said that and when, and then the answer will be truly decided. This thread can be pointed to, should anyone try to ask this question again. And we will know for sure, that Nirvana is indeed officially responsible for killing the 80s.
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