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    Generally, a bad movie is just a bad movie. Although inversely, a "good" movie may hold no interest for me at all.
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      yellow_submarine wrote:
      Generally, a bad movie is just a bad movie. Although inversely, a "good" movie may hold no interest for me at all.


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        retroman wrote:
        Ok

        ugh, shut up
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          stake n sheak wrote:
          retroman wrote:
          Ok

          ugh, shut up

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            :lol:
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              thecrow174 wrote:
              :lol:


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                eddstarr88 wrote:
                Man vs. Monster: the monster attacks, can it be stopped before it attacks again? Roger Ebert used this theme to cover all of the themes listed by S n S in his earlier post as "Man vs X". The "monster" can be another man, or a machine, or even the main character's psyche - the monster within.


                You know, it's interesting. You can pack all of those themes into one type as Siskel and Ebert do, or you can use that one type to describe all plots as my fourth grade English teacher did. (The Quest is often comprised of Man vs. Nature [traveling over great expanse of land] and/or Man vs. Man [a battle during or after the trip]. Rags to Riches is a story of someone struggling in society to overcome the obstacle of being a loser--Man vs Man.)

                After some thought, I have realized that the Siskel & Ebert system is better for readers or viewers. It hints at the content of the story and what sort of events can be expected. Meanwhile, the English Teacher system (possibly) works better for writers, while they are in the process of building the concept and structure of the story.

                I learned this in (I think) fourth grade, while we were reading A Wrinkle In Time. The other thing we learned at the time was plot structure.

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                  stake n sheak wrote:
                  eddstarr88 wrote:
                  Man vs. Monster: the monster attacks, can it be stopped before it attacks again? Roger Ebert used this theme to cover all of the themes listed by S n S in his earlier post as "Man vs X". The "monster" can be another man, or a machine, or even the main character's psyche - the monster within.


                  You know, it's interesting. You can pack all of those themes into one type as Siskel and Ebert do, or you can use that one type to describe all plots as my fourth grade English teacher did. (The Quest is often comprised of Man vs. Nature [traveling over great expanse of land] and/or Man vs. Man [a battle during or after the trip]. Rags to Riches is a story of someone struggling in society to overcome the obstacle of being a loser--Man vs Man.)

                  After some thought, I have realized that the Siskel & Ebert system is better for readers or viewers. It hints at the content of the story and what sort of events can be expected. Meanwhile, the English Teacher system (possibly) works better for writers, while they are in the process of building the concept and structure of the story.

                  I learned this in (I think) fourth grade, while we were reading A Wrinkle In Time. The other thing we learned at the time was plot structure.



                  Interesting
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                    Well done S n S, it took a lot of searching for me to realize that Gene Siskel and Roger Ebert were "taking liberty" with theme categories so viewers could have fun putting their favorite films under a header.

                    It seems to fit into the informal style of "Siskel & Ebert" to play around with descriptions and I bet the two of them also use their theme categories on television as well as movies.

                    Roger and Gene are gone but their love of film sure made an impact on me.
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                      eddstarr88 wrote:
                      Well done S n S, it took a lot of searching for me to realize that Gene Siskel and Roger Ebert were "taking liberty" with theme categories so viewers could have fun putting their favorite films under a header.

                      It seems to fit into the informal style of "Siskel & Ebert" to play around with descriptions and I bet the two of them also use their theme categories on television as well as movies.

                      Roger and Gene are gone but their love of film sure made an impact on me.


                      I agree completely
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                        Any story can be boiled down to these plots:

                        Man vs Man
                        Man vs Nature
                        Man vs Self
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                          yellow_submarine wrote:
                          Any story can be boiled down to these plots:

                          Man vs Man
                          Man vs Nature
                          Man vs Self


                          Cool
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                            What still awes me is that Gene Siskel said that every movie ever released falls into an established plot theme. No one ever has a uniquely "new" movie idea.

                            Works for me because I like variations on a theme just fine.
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                              eddstarr88 wrote:
                              What still awes me is that Gene Siskel said that every movie ever released falls into an established plot theme. No one ever has a uniquely "new" movie idea.

                              Works for me because I like variations on a theme just fine.


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                                stake n sheak wrote:
                                plot structure.

                                I just learned this is called Freytag's Triangle. (or Freytag's Pyramid)

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                                  yellow_submarine wrote:
                                  Any story can be boiled down to these plots:

                                  Man vs Man
                                  Man vs Nature
                                  Man vs Self


                                  God creates dinosaurs. God destroys dinosaurs. God creates man. Man destroys God. Man creates dinosaurs.
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                                    Great, now retroman will want to post in this thread again.
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