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thecrow174 1 year 8 months ago Posts: 9806	retroman wrote: eddstarr88 wrote: One of the most fun episodes of "Siskel & Ebert" I ever saw was a tutorial on Film Plot Types. I've been trying to find that clip on YouTube, but the show went something like this: The Idiot Plot: A plot that requires all the characters to be idiots. If they weren't, they'd immediately figure out everything and the movie would be over. The Buddy Cop Plot: two people, usually opposites of each other with conflicting personalities, are forced to work together. Those are the two I can remember. Maybe other members can find the rest of the list because according to Roger Ebert every movie ever made falls into one of these universal movie plot types. Is Rush Hour considered a Buddy Cop The main characters didn't get along at first, but they did later on in the movie.
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stake n sheak 1 year 8 months ago Posts: 1772	The buddy movie is usually what Ebert called a "wunza movie." Roger Ebert wrote: Any film using a plot which can be summarized by saying "One's a..." For example, "One's a cop. One's an actor." Or "One's a saint. One's a sinner."
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eddstarr88 1 year 8 months ago Posts: 6886	stake n sheak wrote: The buddy movie is usually what Ebert called a "wunza movie." Roger Ebert wrote: Any film using a plot which can be summarized by saying "One's a..." For example, "One's a cop. One's an actor." Or "One's a saint. One's a sinner." YES! A funny take on the promo line used in the 80's. And the "Buddy Cop" formula can be action/adventure or a comedy.
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retroman 1 year 8 months ago Posts: 702 Globally Banned	stake n sheak wrote: It's an interesting concept. Depending on who you ask, the number of plot types varies greatly. When I was in grade school, I was taught there are three: Man vs Man - conflict between people Man vs Nature - conflict between a person and the world or environment (i.e., monster movies, or climbing a mountain) Man vs Himself - internal conflict or struggle It's the unique elements that make a story interesting and new, but all stories can be reduced down to one of these simple styles. Other schools of thought extrapolate this basic framework and say there are seven: Man vs Man Man vs Nature Man vs Environment Man vs Machines and Technology Man vs The Supernatural Man vs Himself Man vs God/Religion I don't agree with this. All of those can be put into the three containers, although combinations are possible (and again, are what makes things interesting.) 'vs God/Religion', for instance, could be seen as 'vs Man' and/or 'vs Nature'. Yet more categorizations count more types of plot, with themes such as: Quest Adventure Pursuit Rescue Escape Revenge (and more.) This is from Ronald Tobias's 20 Master Plots. Again, while deeper studies may use this classification system to reveal intricate ideas of story construction, I see a lot of overlap between these. or: Deliverance Crime Pursued by Vengeance Vengeance taken for kindred upon kindred Pursuit Disaster Falling Prey to Cruelty of Misfortune Revolt (and more.) Georges Polti's The Thirty-Six Dramatic Situations.) Opposites attract two different people fall in love despite social racial or political differences
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Roger Ebert 1 year 8 months ago Posts: 3	Hello friends. It's me. Thank you for all of your kind words. I'm watching movies in Heaven now. I'll be happy to answer any questions you might have for me.

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thecrow174 1 year 8 months ago Posts: 9806	Roger Ebert wrote: Hello friends. It's me. Thank you for all of your kind words. I'm watching movies in Heaven now. I'll be happy to answer any questions you might have for me. So disrespectful.
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retroman 1 year 8 months ago Posts: 702 Globally Banned	Roger Ebert wrote: Hello friends. It's me. Thank you for all of your kind words. I'm watching movies in Heaven now. I'll be happy to answer any questions you might have for me. Tell me your favorite non disney cartoon movies from the 90's
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eddstarr88 1 year 8 months ago Posts: 6886	Yeah, that's what I'm talking about retroman. On "Siskel & Ebert" there was an entire episode on movie plots and the idea was that there are no completely new film ideas anymore. Every movie falls into one of those plot categories you listed. My personal favorite is what Roger Ebert called, The Fish Outta Water Plot: the main character is placed in a world totally foreign to the one he or she is accustomed to. A prime example is Eddie Murphy and Dan Aykroyd in "Trading Places" from 1983.
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Roger Ebert 1 year 8 months ago Posts: 3	Well retroman, there unfortunately weren't many that I enjoyed. But here are a few: Bebe's Kids. The Tune. The Wrong Trousers. And Beavis and Butt-Head Do America.

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retroman 1 year 8 months ago Posts: 702 Globally Banned	eddstarr88 wrote: Yeah, that's what I'm talking about retroman. On "Siskel & Ebert" there was an entire episode on movie plots and the idea was that there are no completely new film ideas anymore. Every movie falls into one of those plot categories you listed. My personal favorite is what Roger Ebert called, The Fish Outta Water Plot: the main character is placed in a world totally foreign to the one he or she is accustomed to. A prime example is Eddie Murphy and Dan Aykroyd in "Trading Places" from 1983. Or Enchanted since i think i remembering hearing Ebert was a fan of that movie and he praised Amy Adam's performance
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retroman 1 year 8 months ago Posts: 702 Globally Banned	Roger Ebert wrote: Well retroman, there unfortunately weren't many that I enjoyed. But here are a few: Bebe's Kids. The Tune. The Wrong Trousers. And Beavis and Butt-Head Do America. I saw your review for Thumbelina and i disagreed with both of you, it was a great movie and i became a fan of Jodi Benson because of that movie
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stake n sheak 1 year 8 months ago Posts: 1772	eddstarr88 wrote: ...there are no completely new film ideas anymore... I'll always remember learning in film class, that both Star Wars and Rashomon are "westerns".
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retroman 1 year 8 months ago Posts: 702 Globally Banned	Roger Ebert wrote: Well retroman, there unfortunately weren't many that I enjoyed. But here are a few: Bebe's Kids. The Tune. The Wrong Trousers. And Beavis and Butt-Head Do America. Meanwhile i agreed with your Little Princess review since it was one of the best movies of the 90's period
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retroman 1 year 8 months ago Posts: 702 Globally Banned	stake n sheak wrote: eddstarr88 wrote: ...there are no completely new film ideas anymore... I'll always remember learning in film class, that both Star Wars and Rashomon are "westerns". We all want something fresh once in a while
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stake n sheak 1 year 8 months ago Posts: 1772	Roger Ebert wrote: I'll be happy to answer any questions you might have for me. [/color] What was your opinion of Ralph Bakshi?
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Roger Ebert 1 year 8 months ago Posts: 3	thecrow174, I have great respect for everyone here. If my presence makes you uncomfortable, I am very sorry. Perhaps this was not the right place for me to reach out to a community of film lovers in my rest. Thank you retroman. I'm glad you enjoyed A Little Princess too. stake n sheak, I found Mr. Bakshi to be quite provocative and original in his earlier years. Some of his later work, however, was surprisingly incompetent.

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eddstarr88 1 year 8 months ago Posts: 6886	stake n sheak wrote: eddstarr88 wrote: ...there are no completely new film ideas anymore... I'll always remember learning in film class, that both Star Wars and Rashomon are "westerns". That's cool! Steven Spielberg often compares sci-fi films as "westerns with a weapon upgrade".
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retroman 1 year 8 months ago Posts: 702 Globally Banned	Roger Ebert wrote: thecrow174, I have great respect for everyone here. If my presence makes you uncomfortable, I am very sorry. Perhaps this was not the right place for me to reach out to a community of film lovers in my rest. Thank you retroman. stake n sheak, I found Mr. Bakshi to be quite provocative and original in his earlier years. Some of his later work, however, was surprisingly incompetent. Farewell mr Ebert you were an inspiration for all of us
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retroman 1 year 8 months ago Posts: 702 Globally Banned	Roger Ebert wrote: thecrow174, I have great respect for everyone here. If my presence makes you uncomfortable, I am very sorry. Perhaps this was not the right place for me to reach out to a community of film lovers in my rest. Thank you retroman. stake n sheak, I found Mr. Bakshi to be quite provocative and original in his earlier years. Some of his later work, however, was surprisingly incompetent. By the way let's talk some more next time
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retroman 1 year 8 months ago Posts: 702 Globally Banned	eddstarr88 wrote: stake n sheak wrote: eddstarr88 wrote: ...there are no completely new film ideas anymore... I'll always remember learning in film class, that both Star Wars and Rashomon are "westerns". That's cool! Steven Spielberg often compares sci-fi films as "westerns with a weapon upgrade". I don't do Westerns
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