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    If you ask me, ever since Bob Iger became CEO of the Walt Disney Company in 2005, he began fixing the problems Michael Eisner made when it came to movies (buying Pixar, bringing back quality animated movies whether they're 2D or CGI) and theme parks. Unfortunately, I don't think he's been doing anything to their television arm, Disney/ABC Television Group. All Disney/ABC has been doing since 2006 is destroying the Disney name and the company's reputation. Hannah Montana? High School Musical? Shake It Up? Disney XD? Pretty Little Liars? How do these live up to the company's standards of quality family entertainment? All they are doing is catering to the lowest common denominator (preppy tweens and teens and/or spoiled college kids). ABC has especially gone downhill with their LCD sitcoms and dramas, reality shows, and left-leaning (in my opinion) evening newscasts. That has made me conclude that Mr. Iger and Disney need to do something about this, and I think spinning off Disney/ABC Television Group (and that includes all of their television networks, even Disney Channel) into a separate publicly-traded company would be the best bet. Think about it... Disney can focus on what they do best (movies, animation, and theme parks) while the new Disney/ABC (which would probably be renamed ABC Inc. if the spin-off were to occur) would focus on television properties and broadcasting. Your thoughts? Agree or disagree?
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      MattNor91 wrote:
      If you ask me, ever since Bob Iger became CEO of the Walt Disney Company in 2005, he began fixing the problems Michael Eisner made when it came to movies (buying Pixar, bringing back quality animated movies whether they're 2D or CGI) and theme parks. Unfortunately, I don't think he's been doing anything to their television arm, Disney/ABC Television Group. All Disney/ABC has been doing since 2006 is destroying the Disney name and the company's reputation. Hannah Montana? High School Musical? Shake It Up? Disney XD? Pretty Little Liars? How do these live up to the company's standards of quality family entertainment? All they are doing is catering to the lowest common denominator (preppy tweens and teens and/or spoiled college kids). ABC has especially gone downhill with their LCD sitcoms and dramas, reality shows, and left-leaning (in my opinion) evening newscasts. That has made me conclude that Mr. Iger and Disney need to do something about this, and I think spinning off Disney/ABC Television Group (and that includes all of their television networks, even Disney Channel) into a separate publicly-traded company would be the best bet. Think about it... Disney can focus on what they do best (movies, animation, and theme parks) while the new Disney/ABC (which would probably be renamed ABC Inc. if the spin-off were to occur) would focus on television properties and broadcasting. Your thoughts? Agree or disagree?


      I disagree because I'm liking some of Disney's new work although I'm not watching Disney Channel at the moment
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        Some of the new Disney Junior programs seem to be fairly well done and kids are attracted to them. Merchandising seems to do well with them as well.
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          Ghost of Vapor wrote:
          Some of the new Disney Junior programs seem to be fairly well done and kids are attracted to them. Merchandising seems to do well with them as well.


          Nice to know
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            retroman wrote:
            Ghost of Vapor wrote:
            Some of the new Disney Junior programs seem to be fairly well done and kids are attracted to them. Merchandising seems to do well with them as well.


            Nice to know

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              thecrow174 wrote:
              retroman wrote:
              Ghost of Vapor wrote:
              Some of the new Disney Junior programs seem to be fairly well done and kids are attracted to them. Merchandising seems to do well with them as well.


              Nice to know

              Are you being sarcastic? Just asking.


              I am not
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                Sorry to go off-topic, but I choose to stay away from shows like Pretty Little Liars. Never seen it, never will.
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                  thecrow174 wrote:
                  Sorry to go off-topic, but I choose to stay away from shows like Pretty Little Liars. Never seen it, never will.


                  Me too the only show i watch every week now is Dragons Riders of Berk
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                    MattNor91 wrote:
                    If you ask me, ever since Bob Iger became CEO of the Walt Disney Company in 2005, he began fixing the problems Michael Eisner made when it came to movies (buying Pixar, bringing back quality animated movies whether they're 2D or CGI) and theme parks. Unfortunately, I don't think he's been doing anything to their television arm, Disney/ABC Television Group. All Disney/ABC has been doing since 2006 is destroying the Disney name and the company's reputation. Hannah Montana? High School Musical? Shake It Up? Disney XD? Pretty Little Liars? How do these live up to the company's standards of quality family entertainment? All they are doing is catering to the lowest common denominator (preppy tweens and teens and/or spoiled college kids). ABC has especially gone downhill with their LCD sitcoms and dramas, reality shows, and left-leaning (in my opinion) evening newscasts. That has made me conclude that Mr. Iger and Disney need to do something about this, and I think spinning off Disney/ABC Television Group (and that includes all of their television networks, even Disney Channel) into a separate publicly-traded company would be the best bet. Think about it... Disney can focus on what they do best (movies, animation, and theme parks) while the new Disney/ABC (which would probably be renamed ABC Inc. if the spin-off were to occur) would focus on television properties and broadcasting. Your thoughts? Agree or disagree?


                    By the way when i was a teenager, i was a much bigger fan of High School Musical than Hannah Montana
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                      retroman wrote:
                      MattNor91 wrote:
                      If you ask me, ever since Bob Iger became CEO of the Walt Disney Company in 2005, he began fixing the problems Michael Eisner made when it came to movies (buying Pixar, bringing back quality animated movies whether they're 2D or CGI) and theme parks. Unfortunately, I don't think he's been doing anything to their television arm, Disney/ABC Television Group. All Disney/ABC has been doing since 2006 is destroying the Disney name and the company's reputation. Hannah Montana? High School Musical? Shake It Up? Disney XD? Pretty Little Liars? How do these live up to the company's standards of quality family entertainment? All they are doing is catering to the lowest common denominator (preppy tweens and teens and/or spoiled college kids). ABC has especially gone downhill with their LCD sitcoms and dramas, reality shows, and left-leaning (in my opinion) evening newscasts. That has made me conclude that Mr. Iger and Disney need to do something about this, and I think spinning off Disney/ABC Television Group (and that includes all of their television networks, even Disney Channel) into a separate publicly-traded company would be the best bet. Think about it... Disney can focus on what they do best (movies, animation, and theme parks) while the new Disney/ABC (which would probably be renamed ABC Inc. if the spin-off were to occur) would focus on television properties and broadcasting. Your thoughts? Agree or disagree?


                      I disagree because I'm liking some of Disney's new work although I'm not watching Disney Channel at the moment


                      I can see where you're going with that. I think stuff like Gravity Falls, Phineas & Ferb, and of course those new Mickey Mouse TV shorts coming in June are the few saviors of the Disney Channel. Disney Junior also seems like they want to be the new version of what Disney Channel used to be when it first launched. One of the main reasons I decided to bring up a potential spin off of Disney's TV networks, including ABC, isn't just because I've been highly critical of their direction ever since 2004, but I also think it would make since business-wise. If you take a look at most of the TV networks Disney owns, they most of them are very successful, and I believe they achieved that success without the help of the higher-ups at the Mouse House. That's the main reason why I personally believe a spin off could be possible in the future.
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                        MattNor91 wrote:
                        retroman wrote:
                        MattNor91 wrote:
                        If you ask me, ever since Bob Iger became CEO of the Walt Disney Company in 2005, he began fixing the problems Michael Eisner made when it came to movies (buying Pixar, bringing back quality animated movies whether they're 2D or CGI) and theme parks. Unfortunately, I don't think he's been doing anything to their television arm, Disney/ABC Television Group. All Disney/ABC has been doing since 2006 is destroying the Disney name and the company's reputation. Hannah Montana? High School Musical? Shake It Up? Disney XD? Pretty Little Liars? How do these live up to the company's standards of quality family entertainment? All they are doing is catering to the lowest common denominator (preppy tweens and teens and/or spoiled college kids). ABC has especially gone downhill with their LCD sitcoms and dramas, reality shows, and left-leaning (in my opinion) evening newscasts. That has made me conclude that Mr. Iger and Disney need to do something about this, and I think spinning off Disney/ABC Television Group (and that includes all of their television networks, even Disney Channel) into a separate publicly-traded company would be the best bet. Think about it... Disney can focus on what they do best (movies, animation, and theme parks) while the new Disney/ABC (which would probably be renamed ABC Inc. if the spin-off were to occur) would focus on television properties and broadcasting. Your thoughts? Agree or disagree?


                        I disagree because I'm liking some of Disney's new work although I'm not watching Disney Channel at the moment


                        I can see where you're going with that. I think stuff like Gravity Falls, Phineas & Ferb, and of course those new Mickey Mouse TV shorts coming in June are the few saviors of the Disney Channel. Disney Junior also seems like they want to be the new version of what Disney Channel used to be when it first launched. One of the main reasons I decided to bring up a potential spin off of Disney's TV networks, including ABC, isn't just because I've been highly critical of their direction ever since 2004, but I also think it would make since business-wise. If you take a look at most of the TV networks Disney owns, they most of them are very successful, and I believe they achieved that success without the help of the higher-ups at the Mouse House. That's the main reason why I personally believe a spin off could be possible in the future.


                        Ok not to mention I sometimes wonder why Disney Channel stopped airing Non Disney movies like they did in the 90's
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                          They would not do this unless by court order. I can't think of the last time I saw a company make a split on purpose. It's all about consolidation and acquisition in the modern corporate world. Just because something is successful without oversight of the higher-ups doesn't mean the higher-ups would ever want to let it go. What kind of sense does that make for them? I find this notion quite surprising from someone for whom ABC News is too left-leaning.

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                            stake n sheak wrote:
                            They would not do this unless by court order. I can't think of the last time I saw a company make a split on purpose. It's all about consolidation and acquisition. Just because something is successful without oversight of the higher-ups doesn't mean the higher-ups would ever want to let it go. What kind of sense does that make for them? I find this notion quite surprising from someone for whom ABC News is too liberal.

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                            For the 2nd time I'm not
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                              I didn't say you were being sarcastic. I said you are trying to increase your post count. Which is the only reason I can think of for someone to respond to almost every post in a thread no matter how little they have to say about it, which you pretty much do all the time. "cool" "sorry to hear that" "wow" "i agree" "not me" "nice to know" If you don't have anything to say, don't say anything.

                              That or you think you're Truman Burbank, and this entire website is constructed for the rest of the world to watch how you respond to it in a comforting and charming television show which must self-destruct when you realize you have never been outside of it and try to leave.
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                                retroman wrote:
                                stake n sheak wrote:
                                They would not do this unless by court order. I can't think of the last time I saw a company make a split on purpose. It's all about consolidation and acquisition. Just because something is successful without oversight of the higher-ups doesn't mean the higher-ups would ever want to let it go. What kind of sense does that make for them? I find this notion quite surprising from someone for whom ABC News is too liberal.

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                                For the 2nd time I'm not

                                Okay, I believe you! I didn't ask the 2nd time.
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                                  thecrow174 wrote:
                                  retroman wrote:
                                  stake n sheak wrote:
                                  They would not do this unless by court order. I can't think of the last time I saw a company make a split on purpose. It's all about consolidation and acquisition. Just because something is successful without oversight of the higher-ups doesn't mean the higher-ups would ever want to let it go. What kind of sense does that make for them? I find this notion quite surprising from someone for whom ABC News is too liberal.


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                                  For the 2nd time I'm not

                                  Okay, I believe you! I didn't ask the 2nd time.


                                  I promise it won't happen again
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                                    stake n sheak wrote:
                                    I didn't say you were being sarcastic. I said you are trying to increase your post count. Which is the only reason I can think of for someone to respond to almost every post in a thread no matter how little they have to say about it, which you pretty much do all the time. "cool" "sorry to hear that" "wow" "i agree" "not me" "nice to know" If you don't have anything to say, don't say anything.


                                    That or you think you're Truman Burbank, and this entire website is constructed for the rest of the world to watch how you respond to it in a comforting and charming television show which must self-destruct when you realize you have never been outside of it and try to leave.


                                    I'm sorry about how I comment
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