• 2 years 10 months ago
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    TheEducator wrote:
    The first 5-6 seasons of Rugrats were brilliant.

    Basically, if you catch an episode of Rugrats and David Doyle is voicing "grandpa," it's a classic. If Joe Alaskey is voicing grandpa, it's putrid, unwatchable shit. That's a perfect line to draw, from what I remember. I think they must have lost some key writers in the downtime when they were looking for a replacement for Doyle.
    But Alaskey voiced Grandpa in the movie and it was a great film.
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      • 2 years 9 months ago
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      Oldies79 wrote:
      For some resaon, I never could get into Are You Afraid of the Dark or The Wild Thornberries.

      I was more of a Cartoon Network fan to be honest. It'll be easier to come up with a list of the few Nickelodeon shows I did like...

      *Angry Beavers
      *All That
      *Kenan and Kel
      *Cousin Skeeter
      *Figure It Out
      *The Amanda Show



      Doug is too boring and campy, and I'd swear Roger had a boy crush on Doug.


      Yeah, you're an idiot.

      You liked the shitty slapstick sketch comedy shows like All That, Kenan & Kel, and The Amanda Show, but call Doug campy? Doug?

      Here's a summary of the difference between Doug and the shitty sketch comedy shows that aired on Nickelodeon:

      Kenan and Kel: IIIIiiiii, dropped the screwwwwww...in the tuna. X Infinity.



      Doug: Mom, Dad...I'm leaving home, dropping out of school, and starting a new life as a fugitive from justice.

      Doug's dad (half-asleep): That's nice, Doug, just don't wake your sister.
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        Hey Dude was shit.
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          • 2 years 9 months ago
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          I kind of disliked the show You're On.
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            thecrow174 wrote:
            I kind of disliked the show You're On.


            I've barely heard of that show. U To U was even worse than that.
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              demonpuppet87 wrote:
              thecrow174 wrote:
              I kind of disliked the show You're On.


              I've barely heard of that show. U To U was even worse than that.

              I don't remember U to U.
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                thecrow174 wrote:
                demonpuppet87 wrote:
                thecrow174 wrote:
                I kind of disliked the show You're On.


                I've barely heard of that show. U To U was even worse than that.

                I don't remember U to U.


                I do, and IIRC, it was a borefest IMHO where viewers submitted their ideas through almost anything possible - telephone, e-mail (in its early days as an everyday thing), fax, old-fashioned postal mail - you name it, it would be on the show. Here's the Wikipedia page to prove it:

                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U_to_U
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                  Only 20 episodes? Sheesh!
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                    • 2 years 9 months ago
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                    TheEducator wrote:
                    Oldies79 wrote:
                    For some resaon, I never could get into Are You Afraid of the Dark or The Wild Thornberries.

                    I was more of a Cartoon Network fan to be honest. It'll be easier to come up with a list of the few Nickelodeon shows I did like...

                    *Angry Beavers
                    *All That
                    *Kenan and Kel
                    *Cousin Skeeter
                    *Figure It Out
                    *The Amanda Show



                    Doug is too boring and campy, and I'd swear Roger had a boy crush on Doug.


                    Yeah, you're an idiot.


                    Well, you know that saying with the stone, the glass house and all? Yeah, you know where I'm going...
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                      • 2 years 9 months ago
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                      Oldies79 wrote:
                      TheEducator wrote:
                      Oldies79 wrote:
                      For some resaon, I never could get into Are You Afraid of the Dark or The Wild Thornberries.

                      I was more of a Cartoon Network fan to be honest. It'll be easier to come up with a list of the few Nickelodeon shows I did like...

                      *Angry Beavers
                      *All That
                      *Kenan and Kel
                      *Cousin Skeeter
                      *Figure It Out
                      *The Amanda Show



                      Doug is too boring and campy, and I'd swear Roger had a boy crush on Doug.


                      Yeah, you're an idiot.


                      Well, you know that saying with the stone, the glass house and all? Yeah, you know where I'm going...


                      Nah, I'm a brick house.
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                        • 2 years 9 months ago
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                        thecrow174 wrote:
                        Only 20 episodes? Sheesh!


                        That's how long U to U lasted in its three-year existence, from 1994 to 1996 (according to the Wikipedia page I'd URL-linked on my previous post).
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                          To be honest, I was never into Nickelodeon as a kid, I always much preferred CN and fox's kids.
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                            I want to point something out about Nick News. Those that have watched it during the 90s are the ones who payed a lot of attention in social studies in grade school and are getting paid $30,000 a year in business administration. Those that didn't are working at Burger King.
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                              actually, i'm working at wendy's. but close enough :lol:
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                                Oldies79 wrote:

                                Doug is too boring and campy, and I'd swear Roger had a boy crush on Doug.


                                I don't think you know what "campy" means.

                                Doug had a few cartoon quirks (because it was a CARTOON), such as the animals being semi-anthropomorphic, but in totality, it was also quite possibly the most realistic cartoon ever made. It was extremely grounded in reality and not at all about absurdity to the viewer/excess, which is what defines camp. The only campy scene from the Nickelodeon Doug I can remember off the top of my head was in "Doug's Babysitter," when the babysitter the parents hired breaks out in a silly song outlining all her ridiculous rules. Otherwise, aside from the general quirks that were established in the ground rules that worked within the cartoon parameters (semi-anthro animals, eccentric/inside joke extra characters in the background, occasional humorous cartoony animations), as well as some satirical/quirky peripheral characters (for example, Mayor White, who represents incompetent politicians) it's completely true to real life. Doug's fantasies are over-the-top, but that's all they are - fantasies. He just has a vivid imagination, and the point being made is that none of that stuff will ever happen in a million years, but a lot of kids (heck, even some adults) live in that sort of a dream world, only to find that reality is quite a bit different, and usually much less exciting.

                                Note: None of this applies to the Disney Doug. That version, from the few episodes I could stand to watch, did seem somewhat campy...although I'm not sure that's even the right word for even that version. It was kind of a Scooby-Doo/Inspector Gadget sort of cartoon slapstick absurdity involved in that one.
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                                  SlapStick77 wrote:
                                  I used to hate this show called Rocko's modern life....and Ren and stimpy as well!!

                                  No-no-no! I LIKE ROCKO NAIL-BITING.
                                  So you're gonna get in my face...BETTER BE READY TO BACK IT UP!

                                  I'm a bitch who likes sirloin.

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                                    Just running down the list I have for what I didn't like on Nick. Alot of these are going to be for the same reasons so bare with it if you see the same reason over and over.

                                    Wild Thornberries

                                    Show felt slow and didn't interest me. Would I watch it again? Maybe but it would be a one and done series. The movie didn't help it's case ether.

                                    Doug

                                    As a kid I liked the show. But grown up I looked at it again and man was it boring. I'm not saying it's terrible though. However it's in the middle in my love hate of shows so I would sit through it again. But only if I was drunk and with friends.

                                    Rocket Power

                                    This show was just plain annoying. They kept saying dude or some kind of surfer lingo every other word and it drove me crazy. The one things that saved this show from being unwatchable was Tito and the guy that said "That's the Spirit." Tito was awesome and was the only likeable regular character in the show I could stand. The other guy just made me laugh that's it.

                                    Hey Dude

                                    Boring.

                                    This next one is going to require explaining.

                                    Rugrats post 1st movie

                                    Let me make this clear. The seasons before the movie were great I love them to this day. However after Dill came around the show started to get bad I found Dill annoying. However I tolerated him because he gave Tommy more Character development. When In Paris came out that killed the show. I hated the show after the 2nd movie. Kimi was worse then Dill on being the annoying one. She was like a second Tommy which we didn't need. 3rd movie and all Grown up were the final Nails in the Coffin for the series. I call the trend the Rugrats effect. When a show is good at first. But after a movie it suck. Best example Spongebob I liked the show until after the movie then it went bad.
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                                      People who know me on this fourm know I am one of the biggest fans of animation...so I am just going to say it...

                                      Doug is a HUGELY overratted cartoon show.

                                      I understand people like it and that's great, but I really don't see what's so dang great about it. It is fairly boring, especially with Doug himself who is a bland character, none of the characters stick out to me really.

                                      Again, it's fine if you're a fan of Doug, but here is an honest to god fact. When Nickelodeon first introducded the lineup of "Nicktoons" the first three were Doug, Ren and Stimpy and Rugrats. It's been said by many that Nickelodeon really thought Doug was going to be the most famous of the three. That was proven to be totally flase, as the crude art and humor of Ren and Stimpy really caught on with kids and Rugrats become the longest running Nicktoon behind only Spongebob. Doug wound up getting sold off to Disney and I've heard for years "Disney ruined Doug, Disney ruined Doug." In my opinion, I don't feel they did, but again, that's cause I don't think Doug was all that great to begun with. I know I am going to get some people not liking me for that, but that's how I see it.

                                      Mind you, I am not saying Doug was the worst 90s Nick show, heck I don't even think I can consider it the worst Nicktoon, as I would take Doug over Catdog (the concept of that show always brothered me, even as a kid. I would it's been said before, even famously on Family Guy, but who did that thing poop?). I don't know what I would say is the worst of 90s Nick shows, maybe Roundhouse cause it really wasn't that funny, heck All That was funnier. But again, not sure.
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                                        Old_school_JJ wrote:
                                        People who know me on this fourm know I am one of the biggest fans of animation...so I am just going to say it...

                                        Doug is a HUGELY overratted cartoon show.

                                        I understand people like it and that's great, but I really don't see what's so dang great about it. It is fairly boring, especially with Doug himself who is a bland character, none of the characters stick out to me really.

                                        Again, it's fine if you're a fan of Doug, but here is an honest to god fact. When Nickelodeon first introducded the lineup of "Nicktoons" the first three were Doug, Ren and Stimpy and Rugrats. It's been said by many that Nickelodeon really thought Doug was going to be the most famous of the three. That was proven to be totally flase, as the crude art and humor of Ren and Stimpy really caught on with kids and Rugrats become the longest running Nicktoon behind only Spongebob. Doug wound up getting sold off to Disney and I've heard for years "Disney ruined Doug, Disney ruined Doug." In my opinion, I don't feel they did, but again, that's cause I don't think Doug was all that great to begun with. I know I am going to get some people not liking me for that, but that's how I see it.

                                        Mind you, I am not saying Doug was the worst 90s Nick show, heck I don't even think I can consider it the worst Nicktoon, as I would take Doug over Catdog (the concept of that show always brothered me, even as a kid. I would it's been said before, even famously on Family Guy, but who did that thing poop?). I don't know what I would say is the worst of 90s Nick shows, maybe Roundhouse cause it really wasn't that funny, heck All That was funnier. But again, not sure.


                                        I don't care whether you like the show or not - that's your prerogative - but saying Doug is a "bland" character is a really lame criticism.

                                        He's the every man character...the protagonist, and an extremely relatable one, at that. Off the top of my head, I can't think of a character I've ever related to more. He was written with an incredible amount of depth - we get inside his head and know every thought and emotion he experiences because he tells us through the narration of his journal. I could seriously write a 10 page essay on his personality.

                                        Name another cartoon character - heck, ANY character - where you can do that.

                                        I don't know what you're expecting from the protagonist as far as not being "bland." Do you want him to have super powers, or save the world within 24 hours? I don't get it. Stuff like that is just a gimmick.

                                        Alex Mack is a great example of that. She's an "average girl" in every way, except she was doused with chemicals so now she has powers.

                                        Let's look at other protagonists.

                                        What's interesting about Arnold in Hey Arnold? I never found him even remotely relatable. He's cool, calm, collected, rational, and never shows any depth. Nobody is actually like that in real life. Not internally, I mean. The writers of Hey Arnold seemed to realize this themselves as the series progressed. By that, I mean they started writing entire episodes centered around Helga instead, since she was much more relatable and had much more depth.

                                        What's interesting about Ren or Stimpy? The character descriptions given for them are as follows:

                                        Ren; He's an asshole.
                                        Stimpy: He's a big, retarded cat.

                                        Nothing to see there other than gross-out humor and shock value. The entertainment is largely in being shocked that Nickelodeon let them do such blatant stuff.

                                        Rocko from Rocko's Modern Life is another "every man" character. The difference with him is he's Australian, an anthropomorphic wallaby, and he's in a show with more blatant edginess.

                                        As for the whole Nicktoons fame thing - Doug wound up the second biggest Nicktoon hit of all-time (prior to Spongebob, anyway) after Rugrats in the long run. Ren and Stimpy plummeted after John K left, and Rocko's Modern Life is more of a cult classic. Doug has over 5.7 million likes on facebook. That trails only Rugrats (7.5+ million) and Spongebob (40.5+ million...JEEZ).

                                        By comparison, Ren and Stimpy has only 1.2+ million likes, Rocko's Modern Life only 1.9+ million, Hey Arnold 4.8 million, Ahh Real Monsters only 23,400+, Catdog 2.8 million, The Angry Beavers 451,000+, Rocket Power 797,000+, Kablam 181,000+, and Wild Thornberries 41,900+.
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                                          [quote=TheEducator]
                                          Old_school_JJ wrote:
                                          People who know me on this fourm know I am one of the biggest fans of animation...so I am just going to say it...

                                          Doug is a HUGELY overratted cartoon show.

                                          I understand people like it and that's great, but I really don't see what's so dang great about it. It is fairly boring, especially with Doug himself who is a bland character, none of the characters stick out to me really.

                                          Again, it's fine if you're a fan of Doug, but here is an honest to god fact. When Nickelodeon first introducded the lineup of "Nicktoons" the first three were Doug, Ren and Stimpy and Rugrats. It's been said by many that Nickelodeon really thought Doug was going to be the most famous of the three. That was proven to be totally flase, as the crude art and humor of Ren and Stimpy really caught on with kids and Rugrats become the longest running Nicktoon behind only Spongebob. Doug wound up getting sold off to Disney and I've heard for years "Disney ruined Doug, Disney ruined Doug." In my opinion, I don't feel they did, but again, that's cause I don't think Doug was all that great to begun with. I know I am going to get some people not liking me for that, but that's how I see it.

                                          Mind you, I am not saying Doug was the worst 90s Nick show, heck I don't even think I can consider it the worst Nicktoon, as I would take Doug over Catdog (the concept of that show always brothered me, even as a kid. I would it's been said before, even famously on Family Guy, but who did that thing poop?). I don't know what I would say is the worst of 90s Nick shows, maybe Roundhouse cause it really wasn't that funny, heck All That was funnier. But again, not sure.


                                          I don't care whether you like the show or not - that's your prerogative - but saying Doug is a "bland" character is a really lame criticism.

                                          He's the every man character...the protagonist, and an extremely relatable one, at that. Off the top of my head, I can't think of a character I've ever related to more. He was written with an incredible amount of depth - we get inside his head and know every thought and emotion he experiences because he tells us through the narration of his journal. I could seriously write a 10 page essay on his personality.

                                          Name another cartoon character - heck, ANY character - where you can do that.

                                          I don't know what you're expecting from the protagonist as far as not being "bland." Do you want him to have super powers, or save the world within 24 hours? I don't get it. Stuff like that is just a gimmick.

                                          Alex Mack is a great example of that. She's an "average girl" in every way, except she was doused with chemicals so now she has powers.

                                          Let's look at other protagonists.

                                          What's interesting about Arnold in Hey Arnold? I never found him even remotely relatable. He's cool, calm, collected, rational, and never shows any depth. Nobody is actually like that in real life. Not internally, I mean. The writers of Hey Arnold seemed to realize this themselves as the series progressed. By that, I mean they started writing entire episodes centered around Helga instead, since she was much more relatable and had much more depth.

                                          What's interesting about Ren or Stimpy? The character descriptions given for them are as follows:

                                          Ren; He's an asshole.
                                          Stimpy: He's a big, retarded cat.

                                          Nothing to see there other than gross-out humor and shock value. The entertainment is largely in being shocked that Nickelodeon let them do such blatant stuff.

                                          Rocko from Rocko's Modern Life is another "every man" character. The difference with him is he's Australian, an anthropomorphic wallaby, and he's in a show with more blatant edginess.

                                          As for the whole Nicktoons fame thing - Doug wound up the second biggest Nicktoon hit of all-time (prior to Spongebob, anyway) after Rugrats in the long run. Ren and Stimpy plummeted after John K left, and Rocko's Modern Life is more of a cult classic. Doug has over 5.7 million likes on facebook. That trails only Rugrats (7.5+ million) and Spongebob (40.5+ million...JEEZ).

                                          By comparison, Ren and Stimpy has only 1.2+ million likes, Rocko's Modern Life only 1.9+ million, Hey Arnold 4.8 million, Ahh Real Monsters only 23,400+, Catdog 2.8 million, The Angry Beavers 451,000+, Rocket Power 797,000+, Kablam 181,000+, and Wild Thornberries 41,900+.
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