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Shot King
9 years 28 days ago
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051107/ap_on_re_as/japan_sunday_comics
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adventure_of_link 9 years 28 days ago Posts: 9769	Saw this already. America is becoming more and more like "Manga HAAAAN KAN CHAN SAAAN ^_^ ^_^ ^_^;;; ^__________________^;;" more and more by the day...

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Shot King 9 years 28 days ago Posts: 617	So why can't anime and manga just mind its own business like other things? If this keeps up, Toyko and most major American cities wont look any different from each other.

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Badkitty 9 years 28 days ago Posts: 922	I'm fairly happy about this news. The comics that are in the papers now are old and boring. I like manga and think it will be a nice change.
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Davisrocks 9 years 28 days ago Posts: 770	Badkitty wrote: I'm fairly happy about this news. The comics that are in the papers now are old and boring. I like manga and think it will be a nice change. I don't agree. Even though manga is awesome. It could never replace the classics!

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Derrick 9 years 28 days ago Posts: 581	As disappointed as I am with the news, I saw this coming. The Japanese influence in America is getting stronger and stronger, with all these anime rip off cartoons out there now. It was about time this manga stuff goes mainstream. From newspapers I see, although I dont read them much, all the good comics are gone anyway like Calvin and Hobbes, Garfield, and Peanuts. Honestly, I cant stand this stuff anymore. America has lost it's originality. Everybody should be forced to watch the Chinpokomon South Park episode .
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Un-touchable 1
9 years 28 days ago
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Frankly, I think they shouldn't do this, because America should not become "Japan Jr."
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SSJ Jup81 9 years 28 days ago Posts: 4806	Meh, I don't think this is a good idea, and I actually do enjoy reading manga. I do prefer our classic strips, like Foxtrot, For Better For Worse, Peanuts, Dennis the Menace to read in the paper. Manga, to me, is good as being graphic novels. Then again, something I wouldn't mind reading in the newspaper in "strip" format would be Meitantei Conan aka Detective Conan because of the genre being mystery. It'd be cool, reading the strip, pondering how the murder was committed, who committed it, and then anxiously reading the next week's installment to see if you were right, close, completely off, etc. That aside, I don't know why so many people are complaining about the influence Japan is having on America. What about the British Invasion in the 60s? I don't see too many people complaining about that who lived through it nor do I see anyone here complaining about it. Oh, and if anything, we've had more of an influence on Japan as opposed to their having an influence on us. Check out all of the random English they use over there, the art (influenced by Disney), and the music (R&B/Hip-Hop is actually becoming very popular over there). Derrick wrote: As disappointed as I am with the news, I saw this coming. The Japanese influence in America is getting stronger and stronger, with all these anime rip off cartoons out there now. It was about time this manga stuff goes mainstream. From newspapers I see, although I dont read them much, all the good comics are gone anyway like Calvin and Hobbes, Garfield, and Peanuts. Peanuts isn't going anyplace, I feel. This is much too much of a classic. It still runs in our paper, only called "Peanuts Classics". This past Sunday, the strip was a 1969 one. wrote: Honestly, I cant stand this stuff anymore. America has lost it's originality. Everybody should be forced to watch the Chinpokomon South Park episode . IMO, America lost its originality way before Japan had an influence on it. I remember that ep of Chinpokomon. I thought it was hilarious! I even have one of my Chinpokomon with me right now! Tosses Shoe out

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nippythefish 9 years 28 days ago Posts: 2713 Globally Banned	This is a ridiculous idea. Manga isn't made for simple three or four cell 'joke' comics. There's long elaborate storylines involved. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for replacing Peanuts, Garfield, For Better or For Worse, heck....almost ALL of the current comics with something funnier, but manga isn't going to do it. It's going to end up like the stupid Spiderman or Mary Worth comics where you have to read the damn thing every week or you won't know what the hell is going on. Another thing that will suck is that US standards will be applied to it, so you're not going to have the 'objectionable' material you can find in most manga. I LIKE THE OBJECTIONABLE MATERIAL!!!!!!!!!!

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Edymnion 9 years 28 days ago Posts: 2523	Un-touchable 1 wrote: Frankly, I think they shouldn't do this, because America should not become "Japan Jr." As opposed to how American culture has been saturating the globe? How there is now a McDonalds in every country on the face of the Earth? Or how you can buy Hollywood movies in the bazaars of India just as easily as you can in California? The world is getting smaller every day. Cultures are blending everywhere you look. Why, I'd be willing to bet that you have salsa in your refridgerator at this very instant. Or that your mom/girlfriend/sister wears perfume. Or that you've eaten barbeque within the past month. None of these are "American". They all come from differant cultures, and they've brought bits of that culture along with them (they would be Mexico/Spain, France, and Africa, in case you were wondering). And it is NOT a bad thing! Why is manga and anime so popular in America right now? Because they bring things to the table that domestic sources don't bring. Before the Japanese influence started in the 70's and 80's, cartoons were purely the domain of kids. And while that stigma is still around, it means anything animated in the US is getting aimed at little kids. Anime and Manga can an do target older audiences. And, since you're on this sight, I bet you watched a lot of anime as a kid and don't even realize. Speed Racer, Voltron, Battle for the Planets/G-Force, Starblazers, Robotech, Mysterious Cities of Gold, they were all japanese anime that got brought over here. Transformers, Thundercats, M.A.S.K., even when the shows were american made they had definate anime trends in them. The entire reason manga and anime is so popular is because that it is GOOD. It deals with topics that American cartoons and comic books don't deal with. It aims at us older viewers/readers, and isn't afraid to use the mediums for all they're worth. I mean, its rather hypocritical to say you're worried about manga getting into the papers in America as being some insidious ploy, and then turning around and turning a blind eye to McDonald's and Wal-Mart spreading across the world. It goes both ways. If its bad for Japanese culture to influence America, then it MUST also be bad for American culture to influence the rest of the world.

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Badkitty 9 years 28 days ago Posts: 922	I can't believe that so many people are up in arms over this. The manga's are not taking over the entire comics section. Anyway it looks like they are only adding two manga's to the comics that are already there. Adding a couple Japenese mangas is NOT going to turn America into Japan Jr. Besides if you want to get technical about it, the style of drawing used in anime and manga was some what influenced by American cartoons, ex Mickey Mouse. I wouldn't worry to much about turning America into Japan. America is already such a huge melting pot that has so many different cultural influences that a couple mangas in the Sunday paper isn't going to matter. I like the idea because I personally do not care for the comics that are run currently and enjoy reading manga. I also think it is a good idea becuase I do believe that it will help getting children and teens to read, something that has been on the decline since the invention of tv. Let me tell you having a brother that is 15 and basically illiterate, anything that gets kids to read is good in my book.
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mrs.link 9 years 27 days ago Posts: 1839	i so knew this was gonna happen but hey, im not to upset by it!! I mean, its inevitable, manga and anime taking over. Kids just want something new from those other cartoons they watch, they want action and cool stuff or something. but yeah, what can we do?
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SSJ Jup81 9 years 27 days ago Posts: 4806	Edymnion wrote: Un-touchable 1 wrote: Frankly, I think they shouldn't do this, because America should not become "Japan Jr." I mean, its rather hypocritical to say you're worried about manga getting into the papers in America as being some insidious ploy, and then turning around and turning a blind eye to McDonald's and Wal-Mart spreading across the world. It goes both ways. If its bad for Japanese culture to influence America, then it MUST also be bad for American culture to influence the rest of the world. I agree whole-heartedly. I find it highly hypocritical how so many people can sit there and complain about Japan's influences on America, especially when America is pretty much influencing pretty much every other country in some way or form, be it in the forms of stores, resteraunts, or music. I even recall a couple of years ago, on Japan's Oricon chart, Eminem has even gotten on there for whatever album he'd released at that particular time. Those who are hypocritical make me a bit embarassed to be American sometimes because it strikes me as being very close-minded to new things. I actually feel that it's good that America is trying to broaden its horizons. We have a lot of Spanish shows/stations here in America, now it's Japan's turn. America is based on different cultures and such, we should be welcoming this mild Japanese influence instead of shunning it.

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mrs.link 9 years 27 days ago Posts: 1839	SSJ Jup81 wrote: Edymnion wrote: Un-touchable 1 wrote: Frankly, I think they shouldn't do this, because America should not become "Japan Jr." I mean, its rather hypocritical to say you're worried about manga getting into the papers in America as being some insidious ploy, and then turning around and turning a blind eye to McDonald's and Wal-Mart spreading across the world. It goes both ways. If its bad for Japanese culture to influence America, then it MUST also be bad for American culture to influence the rest of the world. I agree whole-heartedly. I find it highly hypocritical how so many people can sit there and complain about Japan's influences on America, especially when America is pretty much influencing pretty much every other country in some way or form, be it in the forms of stores, resteraunts, or music. I even recall a couple of years ago, on Japan's Oricon chart, Eminem has even gotten on there for whatever album he'd released at that particular time. Those who are hypocritical make me a bit embarassed to be American sometimes because it strikes me as being very close-minded to new things. I actually feel that it's good that America is trying to broaden its horizons. We have a lot of Spanish shows/stations here in America, now it's Japan's turn. America is based on different cultures and such, we should be welcoming this mild Japanese influence instead of shunning it. i could NOT have said it any better!!THANK YOU, YOU SAID WHAT I WAS THINKING!!
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SSJ Jup81 9 years 27 days ago Posts: 4806	It depends on the genre, imo, for the whole "running manga" thing. Like I mentioned above, I actually wouldn't mind reading Meitantei Conan in the paper since it's a mystery series, and ongoing and actually interesting. nippythefish wrote: This is a ridiculous idea. Manga isn't made for simple three or four cell 'joke' comics. There's long elaborate storylines involved. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for replacing Peanuts, Garfield, For Better or For Worse, heck....almost ALL of the current comics with something funnier, but manga isn't going to do it. It's going to end up like the stupid Spiderman or Mary Worth comics where you have to read the damn thing every week or you won't know what the hell is going on. Another thing that will suck is that US standards will be applied to it, so you're not going to have the 'objectionable' material you can find in most manga. I LIKE THE OBJECTIONABLE MATERIAL!!!!!!!!!! And what's wrong with Mary Worth? Some people like serious, drama-based series witha nice ongoing storyline (For Better, For Worse; I literally grew up with this one, and it's cool because the characters do as well), or even adventure, like Prince Valiant. Getting right down to it, some series started in "papers" and magazines or ran in them. Sailor V, Sailor Moon, and Digimon: V-Tamer comes to mind.

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nippythefish 9 years 27 days ago Posts: 2713 Globally Banned	SSJ Jup81 wrote: And what's wrong with Mary Worth? Some people like serious, drama-based series witha nice ongoing storyline (For Better, For Worse; I literally grew up with this one, and it's cool because the characters do as well), or even adventure, like Prince Valiant. You're not serious, are ya? Let's see....Mary Worth. Drama doesn't belong in the 'funnies', for one. The format that drama requires is not suited for the comics. Following Mary Worth is like watching a soap opera episode in 10 second intervals, requiring six months to complete. So yeah, that's why I find Mary Worth SUCKS.

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SSJ Jup81 9 years 27 days ago Posts: 4806	nippythefish wrote: SSJ Jup81 wrote: And what's wrong with Mary Worth? Some people like serious, drama-based series witha nice ongoing storyline (For Better, For Worse; I literally grew up with this one, and it's cool because the characters do as well), or even adventure, like Prince Valiant. You're not serious, are ya? Let's see....Mary Worth. Drama doesn't belong in the 'funnies', for one. The format that drama requires is not suited for the comics. Following Mary Worth is like watching a soap opera episode in 10 second intervals, requiring six months to complete. So yeah, that's why I find Mary Worth SUCKS. To be honest, I don't even read Mary Worth. I used to years ago, but grew bored of it. ^^ Like I said, some people just like series with a story behind them, and stuff like Mary Worth and For Better For Worse and Prince Valiant come to mind. I think that it should be fair for people who prefer one over the other. I, personally, prefer the comedic ones, but, I also like a sense of realism. I guess Baby Blues and Jump Start count in this regard, as the characters age, but, it's also meant to be amusing.

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Edymnion 9 years 27 days ago Posts: 2523	Yes, its generally considered poor form to try and force your opinion on others. Just because you don't like Mary Worth doesn't mean others don't like it. In fact, there must be a great many people that like reading Mary Worth and Prince Valiant, because they have been in the comics section for MANY, MANY years now. If they weren't popular, they would have been removed long ago. I personally like the idea of manga in the papers. An ongoing story that isn't a soap opera wanna-be. Heck, I used to read the Spiderman strip all the time before it got taken out, and it had story arcs that would span a year or more, easy. Anybody remember when the strip in the papers needed Parker to get a new job for a while, and they had a write in campaign to see what it would be? He ended up being a tightrope walker in the circus, using his wallcrawling to stick to the rope so he could do all sorts of crazy stunts. I miss that strip. Here's hoping the manga strips are that good!

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Lottech96 9 years 26 days ago Posts: 1250	just adding my 2 cents. anyway I'm up for it. The one manga I saw Azumanga Daioh , the way they set up the scenes allmost look like somthing from a Newspaper comic strip. That'll be a nice addition to the mix. and yes I'm getting tyred with some of the unfunny new ones that have no point. Ie Frank and ernest/Dillbert
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SSJ Jup81 9 years 26 days ago Posts: 4806	I've read Azumanga Daioh and seen the show (not all of it). It's quite funny. The characters are truly amusing, especially Osaka and her random sayings. If they did run it in an American paper, though, I bet most anything they'll somehow edit out the whole Kaorin > Sakaki stuff.

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