• 6 years 8 months ago
    • Posts: 1438
    • Account Disabled
    velcrohead wrote:
    SSJ_Jup81 wrote:
    velcrohead wrote:
    There. Still think TV was better back then than it is today?
    Yeah, because we still had more variety, but for this reason only. There was crappy TV back then, I'll admit, but I still feel that we had more variety with the television shows back then. It's like how back then, Nickelodeon wasn't an all-one show station or Nick@Nite wasn't, etc.


    Variety? For the most part while I was growing up, there were only 3, maybe 4 channels we could get. The majority of households didn't subscribe to cable TV until well into the 90's. And even then, you had, what, 30 channels? And cartoons were only on Saturday. Don't tell me you had more variety than our current 500 channel satellite dishes and cable systems, to say nothing of a pure glut of DVD releases.


    No, she's talking about variety as in they didn't play the same shows 5+ times a day. Even cable networks didn't overplay shows like the way they are doing now. Cartoons were on during the weekday afternoons too.

    The problem with TV these days, is not the shows themselves, but a lack of variety. Look at a TV guide schedule and see how often they play certain shows. Some shows get like 6 or 7 time slots. FX, TNT, TBS, MTV and VH1 all tend to overplay shows. Sometimes it comes to point when I'm sick of a show just because of that.

    It's just like with the radio. They play the same 10-20 songs all day long over and over again.
    Are you sure you want to delete this post? Yes | No
      • 6 years 8 months ago
      • Posts: 586
      • Globally Banned
      Well I can sort of agree with that. I still don't get why TNT and USA will play a movie, and then after it's over, play it right back again.

      You definitely have a point about radio. I think it's totally legit to say that radio has become more corporate and bland.
      Are you sure you want to delete this post? Yes | No
        • 6 years 8 months ago
        • Posts: 2608
        • Account Disabled
        Do we have enough "Why TV sucks nowadays" topics? A lot of the shows we watched back then weren't all that great either. Sure, they are nostalgic, but some of them aren't worth watching beyond that.

        For the most part, I watch the cartoons from my childhood simply for the nostalgia. I don't watch too many modern kid cartoons since they aren't made for me.

        If you look beyond kids' shows and reality TV, you will find plenties of great shows on. Try watching HBO for some great series.
        Are you sure you want to delete this post? Yes | No
          • 6 years 8 months ago
          • Posts: 586
          • Globally Banned
          I think you just nailed the problem. We've got a bunch of 30-somethings out there feverishly watching children's television, because (A.) they refuse to grow up or (B.) they're looking for stuff to gripe about so they can justify their existence.

          Quite frankly, it's disturbing to me how many people on this site actually still watch Nickelodeon.

          Time to stop watching children's networks guys and gals. There's good stuff on the other channels.
          Are you sure you want to delete this post? Yes | No
            • 6 years 8 months ago
            • Posts: 4806
            Yep, that's exactly what I meant by variety, what mlw1984 said. We may have had less channels back then, but, as mlw1984 put it, they didn't show the the same series so many times a day. I like how things aired weekly or once a day. In my opinion, you had more to look forward to, and, imo, more room for other television shows on the station.

            Like say, Nickelodeon. Nicktoons wasn't shown as much, even though it started to get to that point I'd say in the later part of the 90s. Rugrats was shown and aired a lot since it was so popular, even though, my being a huge fan back then, I wasn't too bothered with it. lol Either way, I'm sure it was bothersome to some that the variety was gone from the 80s and earlier part of the 90s.

            That aside, I have more of a problem with Nick@Nite than any of the old kiddy stations since it's rare I'd even look at 'em. It was usually an episode each night, maybe two, per series, but that was it. It didn't get shown again later. Right now, I think Nick@Nite only has George Lopez show (which, imo, is still too new to be on Nick@Nite, even though I like the show since it ended prematurely), Home Improvement, Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, and I think Rosanne and The Cosby Show comes on really early in the morning now, and for a while, Nick@Nite aired Fresh Prince so much it was getting sickening for me. Even I'm sick of the show, and I always never had a problem with it, until I saw how much it was shown.

            It's surprising that Nick@Nite is like this. The block has already been shortened due to the fact that Nickelodeon doesn't go off at 8:00 anymore (10:00 on Saturdays when Snick first started), they could at least air a chunk of episodes outside of just a couple of series.

            In the past, it really didn't seem that television played the same stuff over and over on the cable stations. There was variety in what was aired on the stations. They didn't seem to show too much of one thing.

            As for most other stations, I really feel that it's about the same in this regard.
            Are you sure you want to delete this post? Yes | No
              • 6 years 8 months ago
              • Posts: 2608
              • Account Disabled
              velcrohead wrote:
              I think you just nailed the problem. We've got a bunch of 30-somethings out there feverishly watching children's television, because (A.) they refuse to grow up or (B.) they're looking for stuff to gripe about so they can justify their existence.

              Quite frankly, it's disturbing to me how many people on this site actually still watch Nickelodeon.

              Time to stop watching children's networks guys and gals. There's good stuff on the other channels.


              Seriously. When I hear complaints about today's TV, it's usually kids' cartoons or Reality TV. What you said is why I made the bottom part of my signature. Whining about how much TV sucks now isn't going to get you anywhere in life, so they took off your precious old shows, I say get over it and move on. You honestly can't expect them to air the same shows forever. People will get sick of them. That's how cable networks operate.

              Don't get me wrong, I love the old shows as much as the next person but there is some good recent shows, you will have to find them.

              One thing I do agree with is lack of variety.

              I wonder if these Anti Modern Nickelodeon people have kids. :?
              Are you sure you want to delete this post? Yes | No
                • 6 years 8 months ago
                • Posts: 4806
                IMO, lack of variety seems to be the biggest issue for me, aside from too many Reality Shows. I'm not saying all Reality Shows are bad, there's just too many of them. Seems that television now-a-days lack moderation too.

                Back in the 90s, Reality Shows were done in moderation. It's not like every station (exaggeration, I know) had them.
                Are you sure you want to delete this post? Yes | No
                  • 6 years 8 months ago
                  • Posts: 2806
                  Reality Television. Stupid Fake Anime-influenced Action Cartoons. "Tween" shows on Disney and Nickelodeon. Paid Programs for Vacuums, Miracle Cleaners, Bum Exercise Programs, Kitchen Gadgets and many other stupid products that vaporize the American dollar (still noteworthy because it's been a problem since the beginning of TV itself...).
                  Are you sure you want to delete this post? Yes | No
                    • 6 years 8 months ago
                    • Posts: 1438
                    • Account Disabled
                    I hate it when they edit movies on cable. I was watching the Mask on TBS one night and there was so many edits, it was funny. I didn't even enjoy it. You are better off buying a movie on DVD rather than watching it on TV.
                    Are you sure you want to delete this post? Yes | No
                      • 6 years 8 months ago
                      • Posts: 248
                      People seem to confuse nostalgic sentiment with quality. Some of these old shows get more credit than what they deserve. Some of you fail to realize that not every single show from the past was made with quality. A lot of those shows were crap.

                      I re-watched shows I liked as a kid and teenager only to find out how horrible they actually are.

                      The only shows from the past that I can still enjoy and not cringe at is Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Hercules, Xena, Seinfeld and a few others.

                      As for TV animation, any cartoon from the 70s/80s is garbage period. TV animation has reached it's golden age in the 90s and it's actually still in it's golden age. You all just don't hear about it much. There are some good cartoons today, you all just won't give them a chance.

                      Move beyond kids shows, reality TV and MTV and you will find some good stuff. Watch My Name is Earl, House, 24, Prison Break, Heroes, Lost, The L Word, The Sopranos etc and tell me they are crap.
                      Are you sure you want to delete this post? Yes | No
                        • 6 years 8 months ago
                        • Posts: 4806
                        I wouldn't say those shows are crap. I do like My Name is Earl and The Office, although, granted, I haven't watched either since the end of the season last year since I'm usually not home when they're on anymore.

                        As for the other shows you mentioned...

                        House: I've never seen it. I don't even know when it comes on.

                        Prison Break: Just not interested in it.

                        Heroes: Never been interested in it to want to watch it.

                        Lost: I started watching it its first year, but I stopped watching since classes got in the way, and got home after it went off.

                        The L Word: Never heard of this.

                        The Sopranos: I have no desire to watch this what-so-ever. I don't care much for shows with unnecessary cursing or the "I can curse more than you" type shows or unnecessary violence, unless the violence is stupidly comedic. That aside, my television has only basic cable.

                        For the most part, I don't watch much television outside the Food Network, Travel Channel, Discovery Health, Discovery, History Channel, and G4, sometimes. Sometimes I'll watch Comedy Central for Futurama and Cartoon Network for Family Guy.
                        Are you sure you want to delete this post? Yes | No
                          • 6 years 8 months ago
                          • Posts: 1438
                          • Account Disabled
                          Hiro wrote:
                          People seem to confuse nostalgic sentiment with quality. Some of these old shows get more credit than what they deserve. Some of you fail to realize that not every single show from the past was made with quality. A lot of those shows were crap.

                          I re-watched shows I liked as a kid and teenager only to find out how horrible they actually are.

                          The only shows from the past that I can still enjoy and not cringe at is Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Hercules, Xena, Seinfeld and a few others.

                          As for TV animation, any cartoon from the 70s/80s is garbage period. TV animation has reached it's golden age in the 90s and it's actually still in it's golden age. You all just don't hear about it much. There are some good cartoons today, you all just won't give them a chance.

                          Move beyond kids shows, reality TV and MTV and you will find some good stuff. Watch My Name is Earl, House, 24, Prison Break, Heroes, Lost, The L Word, The Sopranos etc and tell me they are crap.


                          I don't have HBO anymore, so I can't watch the Sopranos or the L Word. At least I can buy them on DVD, but HBO DVDs tend to be expensive.

                          I do like My Name is Earl, House, 24 and Prison Break however.

                          I watch shows from my child and teenager years and for the most part, I still like them.
                          Are you sure you want to delete this post? Yes | No
                            • 6 years 8 months ago
                            • Posts: 586
                            • Globally Banned
                            I actually get a kick out of reality TV. Know why? Because you can almost always get in touch with and interact with the contestants from these shows after the show finishes airing. I've made quite a few good friends from shows like American Idol, Big Brother and Survivor. (And yes, I've met them, not just Myspaced them.) That adds a whole new dimension to TV watching, in my opinion.
                            Are you sure you want to delete this post? Yes | No
                              • 6 years 8 months ago
                              • Posts: 4806
                              There's nothing all that wrong with Reality Television, just in the past, there was more moderation of it. You know, not every station seemed to air a bunch of reality television. Maybe if there were only a few programs, maybe most wouldn't feel like the genre is being shoved down our throats.
                              Are you sure you want to delete this post? Yes | No
                                • 6 years 7 months ago
                                • Posts: 703
                                SSJ_Jup81 wrote:
                                There's nothing all that wrong with Reality Television, just in the past, there was more moderation of it. You know, not every station seemed to air a bunch of reality television. Maybe if there were only a few programs, maybe most wouldn't feel like the genre is being shoved down our throats.


                                Problem is, reality TV gets good ratings and is MUCH cheaper than scripted fare, which is why it won't go away any time soon.

                                It's a shame, though. American Idol is going strong with 30 million viewers a show, and the new Battlestar Galactica, one of the best shows on television, gets 2 million viewers on the Sci-Fi channel and is in its final season.
                                Are you sure you want to delete this post? Yes | No
                                  • 6 years 7 months ago
                                  • Posts: 248
                                  retrotoonfreak2006 wrote:
                                  No, TV does suck now. They play the same ol crap all day.


                                  No, it doesn't suck now. You just won't give anything after your era a chance. There are plenties of great shows out there now. Give them a try.
                                  Are you sure you want to delete this post? Yes | No
                                    • 6 years 7 months ago
                                    • Posts: 810
                                    I hate the news most of all. It makes me upset to see all this bad stuff going on in the world and were barely doing anything about it, So instead, We complain. What makes me more sick is watching Hillary Clinton and her supporters. Just watching her makes me sick to my stomach. (Sorry Hillary Clinton Voters! Just Ignore me. ^^)
                                    =50 ways to describe Happiness=

                                    2/50: Happiness Is telling a Joke and people find It funny 1/30/10

                                    =========================================
                                    Drew: Where's your mother?
                                    Angelica: She's in the shower. She says she has to wash away the stench
                                    Are you sure you want to delete this post? Yes | No
                                      • 6 years 6 months ago
                                      • Posts: 22
                                      Hiro wrote:
                                      People seem to confuse nostalgic sentiment with quality. Some of these old shows get more credit than what they deserve. Some of you fail to realize that not every single show from the past was made with quality. A lot of those shows were crap.

                                      I re-watched shows I liked as a kid and teenager only to find out how horrible they actually are.

                                      The only shows from the past that I can still enjoy and not cringe at is Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Hercules, Xena, Seinfeld and a few others.

                                      As for TV animation, any cartoon from the 70s/80s is garbage period. TV animation has reached it's golden age in the 90s and it's actually still in it's golden age. You all just don't hear about it much. There are some good cartoons today, you all just won't give them a chance.

                                      Move beyond kids shows, reality TV and MTV and you will find some good stuff. Watch My Name is Earl, House, 24, Prison Break, Heroes, Lost, The L Word, The Sopranos etc and tell me they are crap.


                                      True on how tend placing nostaglic sentiment over reality, but I must disagree about you saying cartoons from the 70s/80s being complete garbage. There were a few gems amongst the rocks, the problem was from that age was dealing with these watchdog groups and the fact if you covered a live-action show with fast-action montages and goofy songs, it didn't matter how bad it was.

                                      Meanwhile with the 80s itself, when ACT (Action for Children's Television) started crumbling, many decided on basing cartoons off of toys and merchandising, the way the 70s based cartoon off of sitcoms and celebrities as a means for appeasing the masses.

                                      Though I'm not disparaging the way animation is today, you have to admit, bad writing and horrible scripts can ruin a show, movie, etc. no matter how high-tech you make it. Just because you dress a pig in a fabulous dress and sensible shows, it's still just a pig.

                                      The reason most have negative views with today's animation is not the animation itself, mind you, but the production values and writing. In all fairness, they all start off good, then immediately devolve into a pale shadow of their former self when it could've been better.

                                      Case in point, take Freakazoid! Originally when Paul Dini was assigned for the project, he wanted the series as a revival for the lost 'teen superhero' concept. Which was why he did the origin of Freakazoid and the Dance of Doom episodes. They weren't supposed to fall into a Monty Python realm of nonsense. But alas, it wasn't meant to be.

                                      For one thing, Speilberg wanted the show to air on Fox instead of Kids' WB, mainly because Freakazoid! was going to be aimed towards the older demographic of young teens rather than kids. And because of Dini's success with Batman the Animated Series, Speilberg wanted him working on the show directly. However, Warner Bros. had other plans. One, because they were becoming their own network, they required a killer app program not based on their classic characters nor a video game. They felt Freakazoid had fit the bill.

                                      The other problem was, Dini was signed on for producing the Adventures of Batman & Robin. Much to everyone's surprise and chagrin, B&R wasn't going to be a repackaged series of episodes from Batman TAS. Because of this, Paul only managed to produce and write the few episodes of Freakazoid! Thanks to WB taking over the reigns, as what they did with Cartoon Network, they sort of ruined it. Not completely, mind you, but to a point where you'll note Speilberg hasn't done anything else along the lines of television animation anymore.

                                      Which was sad, because Freakazoid, like Johnny Bravo and Dexter, should've deserved better.

                                      Beyond the animation, however, I do agree with you, there are good shows out there. The problem is locating them nowadays due to networks presuming all we want now are Reality Shows. Just because the island thing worked, doesn't mean other reality shows will. Besides the other shows you've mentioned, I like Doctor Who, Weeds, Battlestar Galactica, Scrubs and Smallville. Yes, I have guilty pleasures. We all do.

                                      The truth is, we really can't criticize any Age of Television because, in retrospect, none of it really is perfect. Only in the way we envision it. Because the way I see, in about thirty years time, we'll have people complaining about the new forms of entertainment, claiming how Spongebob was far better than what's being offered then.

                                      When the bottom line is, rather than complain about what age is better, we should enjoy what we like. Because that's what DVDs and YouTube's for.

                                      'Nuff Said
                                      Are you sure you want to delete this post? Yes | No
                                        • 6 years 6 months ago
                                        • Posts: 648
                                        • Account Disabled
                                        The only thing I can say I can't stand about today's TV is when all of the sudden a comercial gets 10 times louder than it should be. It doesn't make me want to buy their stupid product more; it makes me want to kick the TV in!
                                        Are you sure you want to delete this post? Yes | No
                                          • 6 years 6 months ago
                                          • Posts: 1842
                                          I think TV of today can still be good, but I SO resent Dora The Explorer and her retarded cousin Diego!
                                          Also, here in the UK, the McDonalds Happy Meal commercials of nowadays are TERRIBLE! They use ugly stop motion animation and they tell us about healthy choices of food available, NO MENTION OF FRIES OR SODA WHATSOEVER! At least the McDonalds Happy Meal commercials from the US, Germany and Japan are still good.
                                          I am also sick and tired of UK censors barring junk food advertising from children's TV and barring Tom & Jerry from smoking! This madness has got to stop!
                                          On the whole, even as a grown man, I do enjoy quite a lot of the children's TV of nowadays (favorites including Captain Flamingo, Dinosaur King, Galactik Football and a few others I can't think of right now) , and I am not really that keen on the more adult stuff you guys would watch now that you're all grown up.
                                          I still have a good amount of the characteristics of a 6-12 year old child, even as an over 19 adult.
                                          That's not to say I don't watch ANY adult TV WHATSOEVER, I enjoy a fair amount of adult comedy, such as Family Guy, American Dad, 2DTV and Happy Tree Friends.
                                          Are you sure you want to delete this post? Yes | No
                                          Search
                                          Users Online