Has anyone told you you're very mature?

Tv has another point of sucking.

All digital by Feb. 2009? I have cable but I know there are people that still use the Bunny ears. I know a lot of old folks use that Tv setup still.

I'd ignore him, as reading obviously isn't his strong suit. Notice how he conveniently leaves out information and take quotes out of context to suit his views?

Now this, I do agree with. I do find it pointless for everything to go Digital by next year. That just means, for me anyway, no more television. My television doesn't have Digital Cable. My parents' television and my grandmother's does, though. There are some stations I already can't see, like CN and G4.

It's not my fault that I had all the correct points about how 90's tv was better then today's and you guys had none. Don't cry just because your the only few that likes it. More power to ya!

We as adults have no reason or right to complain about shows aimed at a young audience of today because we're not the demographic or even in the age range. We're the young group of yesterday, not today. The shows aren't meant to appeal to us nor is it being made to cater to us. Getting right down to it, I have more of a problem with adults complaining about kids shows than most anything else, and then turn around and compare it to what they watched, which was probably equally bad or corny or whatever.

The main thing I do agree with, and I'm sure most can, is that it's sad that most of these kids don't have exposure to some of the older cartoons, and I'm not talking about the 80s/90s stuff. I mean the golden age/era of cartoons, like from Warner Bros and Tex Avery.

No offense, but this statement is a little confusing. Retro1986 was talking about that and I was agreeing with him that children don't like those shows simply because they weren't exposed to them.

I don't just complain about kids shows. I complain about a lot of today's television. I just happened to be talking about kids shows because of Retro1986's comment. And the only reason that it's a concern for me is because I plan on having kids someday and I don't want them to grow with bad role models like Jamie Lynn Spears and such. I have a cousin who is 3 and is into Hannah Montana.

To me, that seems a little extreme. Shouldn't a girl that age be watching something a little more educational?

I just have the feeling that my cousin is going to grow up with bad values and I don't want that happen to my kids. TV teaches children a lot more than you might think. Obviously it is a parent's responsibility to be teaching good values, but having a child's role models taking skanky photos of themselves or worse is certainly no help. That is the only reason I'm complaining. I do have legitimate concerns for the future.

I was talking about the golden age of cartoons 30s-50's, but I was also referring to what I think is the golden age of TV 80's-90's. While I love the stuff from my childhood and realize that not everyone could, I can't imagine anyone not liking Popeye and the Flintstones and all the other classics including the live action shows like I Love Lucy and Dick Van Dyke.

I was only referring to children's programming and how adults shouldn't be complaining about them, especially those who sit around and complain about shows aimed at preschoolers, like Dora the Explorer or whatever else Nick Jr. shows

"Aside from the fact that Hannah Montanna sings, what's wrong with her?"

"I honestly don't know much about her. Has she done anything particularly bad? I honestly find more wrong with Bratz dolls and girls emulating that as opposed to girls imitating a teeny bopper singer."

The only reason I complain about Dora is that I think it's sending a message to kids that learning Spanish is more important than learning English. I know it's important to learn another language and that kids have the greatest capacity for learning before age 12, but I think it's better suited for school or specialized language training programs for kids. Dora and Diego just seem like political propaganda of sorts and that's why it bothers me. I don't complain about anything else Nick Jr. shows.

I never said she had done anything bad, although my gut feeling is that she will sooner or later.

And you're right about the Bratz dolls. I'd never give my kid something like that to play with. It's no small wonder to me that girls nowadays have so little respect for themselves.

I was into Cabbage Patch dolls myself. As far educational shows I meant shows from PBS or shows that encouraged creativity.

I wasn't raised by the television, but I remember it had a lot of influence over me and how I looked at things. A child doesn't have to be raised by the television to have it alter the way they behave.

You're actually the first person I've talked to that doesn't like I Love Lucy. Everyone else I know thinks it's a great show. Perhaps it's just a matter of taste.

Well I am off the point of talking about kids shows now(going to just pick up and bootleg dvds I can find at Bestbuy and the internet)
and I don't really hate Miley Cyrus anymore, since I ...

anyway, it is easier and makes more sense to point out Teen shows,but I am glad Saved by the Bell is still on. thats what I always wanted High school to be like.And some stand up acts are great (D.L. Hughley acts are great, he always talks about growing up).

Thats some our problems, we have to grow up and we are just afraid to and don't want to. It was just to easy and fun being a kid. you are happy, no responsibilities,and you always felt safe because you didn't really understand the government or what they were doing.

You what's funny? In the later 90's when I was also too old for Nick Jr., it wouldn't have bothered me.

But since the world seems to have changed so much since 9/11, I have started really looking at things and analyzing them. It's given me a more negative perspective on this decade, I won't deny that. But it hasn't completely changed me because I'm still optimistic that things will start getting better in the next decade. Aside from that, I think the whole Dora thing is just part of my new way of thinking of the world, but that might be getting too philosophical.

And you are right about my assuming the worst in people. It's my worst fault and I'm still trying to overcome it.

Oh yeah. And I never actually saw The Partridge Family. I've been wanting to for awhile but it's never on TV land. At least, I've never seen it on there.