• Sunni
    • 6 years 4 months ago
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    		 But we're talking about TV in general. All genres are included and are fair game.
    Recipe for nostalgia: Mix 80's and 90's culture. Stir in some good memories. Add a dash of reflection. Mixture should now taste bittersweet. Shake well and enjoy!
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    • Retro1986
      • 6 years 4 months ago
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      		 Stickykeys09: your a dink! how can you say Power Rangers (and all its knockoffs) sucked.
      "Doug" sucked.
      "Recess" sucked.
      "Rugrats" sucked!

      Even though all the knockoffs sucked. The rest was great!
      You just like simple entertainment. It's ok don't cry.

      Beside's that, it's your opinion! So keep it to yourself wank!

      The 90's was the best for everything! ESPECIALLY TV! Don't get all whiny just because you didn't get to experiance all of it.

      Hey guys remember when the use to put toys in cerial boxes and little plastic loonies in bags of humpty dumpty chips!!!???? Man I miss those days.:(
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      • Retro1986
        • 6 years 4 months ago
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        		 liukangx: Your absoloutly right. Don't listen to these othe idiots. Their whole argument is "no that's not true, your wrong"
        They have no logical points. You can't tell stuborn stupid people like this anything.
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        • PirateNinja6
          • 6 years 4 months ago
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          Retro1986 wrote:
          "*Claps* One of the most logical posts in this entire thread."

          Says the kid who wishes he was a 90's kid.

          Not logical at all.

          "Television was never about the fans. It was always about making money since day one." Are you that dumb! Kid fans=money. And yes it was once like that, because most of the old business men knew that. Just shut up, lol.
          They basically do the exsact opposite of what fans want now.

          I give every show a chanse that's on today, now your putting words in my mouth. I gave them a chance and they all suck.

          It's not our fault that your mind is simple to entertain.
          It's ok if you like will and grace and a bunch of reality shows and soap opera's, But nobody else does. I like shows from every era too, like family guy. Its just that every show in the 90's was pretty much a atleast a little good or they would take it off. It's gotten to the point were your not even making sense anymore man. Who said we don't worry about social life and school? We just complain about tv on our spare time because we don't except the crap they give us today Your on here complaining about how much you hear about the 90's. lol, what's complaining about it going to do YOU HIPOCRITE!

          You can have your opinion all you want, but when its wrong, we'll tell you. Its like if your opinion was that 2+2=5 it's just wrong.








          Hipocrite is really spelled h-y-p-o-c-r-i-t-e.
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          • Retro1986
            • 6 years 4 months ago
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            		 blueluigi: "The companies are still able to make money off their shows and their shows DO have fans, you just don't know about it."

            Or it's because your an idiot, and you don't know what its about. Their not making money dipshit. Their trying, but failing because they don't care. Sure some of the stupid shows you watch have a FEW fans. But not as many as good shows would.
            "and I know people who DOES like them!"

            Do you know anyone that can teach you how to spell so that we can all understand what your talking about little boy?

            Maybe then I can help you with your problem a little better.


            "Have you ever watched Heroes, The Office, 24, Robot Chicken, or Metalocolipse"


            Yes, Heroes isn't that great. The Office is a little funny.......really funny for people with short attention spans. 24 is alright. Robot Chicken??? Who watches that? duuuumb! I never heard of Metalocolipse, I'll get back to you on that one.

            Did I say every show sucked today? No, I said most of them.
            Can't compare to the 90's not even close.

            "I've been rewatching some old 90s broadcasts lately and I don't see that much of a difference then as I do now (well the mid-90s at least)"

            Yeeeeeah....look a little closer because you can't be that bright or observant if you don't see a differance. I think everyone can agree that.

            How old are you? It's ok nvm.





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            • Retro1986
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              		 What the hell are you going on about PirateNinja6?
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              • SSJ Jup81
                • 6 years 4 months ago
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                		 I wasn't a fan of Power Rangers either. My sole purpose for watching it, was because I found Johnny Yong Bosch (who played Adam) just so darn cute!!

                There's nothing wrong with giving an opinion, but at the same time, one should be respectful towards those who may oppose it, as I doubt anyone likes to see the stuff that he or she likes bashed.

                For instance, I never understood the fascination with stuff like X-Men or Superfriends. I wasn't a fan of Superman TAS either as a kid, but I liked Batman TAS and that 90s version of Spiderman. I wouldn't say that these shows "sucked", but that it didn't appeal to a person like me. When Gargoyles first came out, I found the series incredibly boring. I didn't grow to like this series until the later part of the 90s when I was in my late teens.

                That aside, I do like some shows of now, but it's pretty much the same for me as it was for the 90s. It just pretty much hit me that the majority of my television watching back then, was on Saturday mornings. As for live-action television, it was mostly reruns of older shows, game shows, non-cable programs (Dr. Quinn, Picket Fences, Home Improvement, Simpsons, etc), some sports or goofy type shows (WMAC Masters; Gladiators; WWF Monday Night Raw; WCW), or either TGIF programming (up to a point).

                There are shows I like now to some extent, like say Family Guy, Law & Order: SVU, regular Law & Order (even though I haven't really watched much since Orbach's departure years ago), Sasuke/Ninja Warrior, Mind of Mencia, etc.

                Anywho, I didn't watch much television in the 90s and watch even less now, but mainly because the shows don't appeal to me much as far as story or plot is concerned, but for the latter part of the 90s, I was starting to watch television less and less, due to boredom on my part.

                IMO, for me anyway, I don't find too much of a difference between the shows of the 90s and now, since I'm still viewing it in the same way, for the most part, aside from the kiddy stuff since the majority of that won't appeal to me due to my age. I still go nights without watching much of anything.
                Stickykeys09 wrote:
                For those of you still complaining, we don't meet todays demographic. Sorry guys, we grew up.
                This is a very valid point that I've been trying to make myself since forever, but, I also feel that this can only be applied to children's programming. Shows of this nature are basically made with children in mind. What the children of today like, will definitely differ from what the children of say twenty years ago liked and so forth and so forth.

                I know I don't expect a child born in 1995 to like the stuff I did when I was a child since the times were different. It's like how younger kids (some) don't like older gaming consoles because they're too slow. For those of us who grew up with older systems, of course we didn't have a problem with it because it was the latest thing. The same could be said about television programs. Now-a-days, seems that the shows are faster-paced for the younger children and that the "tween" and "teen" shows are popular amongst the older children.
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                • Retro1986
                  • 6 years 4 months ago
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                  		 "There's nothing wrong with giving an opinion, but at the same time, one should be respectful towards those who may oppose it, as I doubt anyone likes to see the stuff that he or she likes bashed."

                  So say i said my opinion was that 2+2=5, you would have to respect that....bullshit!

                  Your opinions are WROOOOOONG!!!

                  The reason you didn't like stuff like X-men, and Gargoyles is probably because your a girl, or because your brain couldn't follow it. Which is why tv shows are so simple, plain and boaring today. Just look at the shows for kids now compared to back then. You would actually have to think, if you were a child watching a cartoon back in the day, now the shows are just dumb.

                  WWF? Who's your favorite, Hulk Hogan and John Cena? That would explain it. lol!


                  "I didn't watch much television in the 90s and watch even less now" Then your on a site about television trying to tell other people about television why?!

                  Does anybody else see how stupid these people are being?.....anyone?
                  anyone?

                  "I don't find too much of a difference between the shows of the 90s and now" Maybe because you never watched them!!!!!

                  This is getting ridiculas. If your ignorant to television why are you talking like an expert.
                  Get off of this site.

                  "What the children of today like, will definitely differ from what the children of say twenty years ago"
                  That's because they were brought up watching the usual mindless dribble of today.

                  "(some) don't like older gaming consoles because they're too slow."
                  That's why "slow people" like a few on this thread don't like tv back then. Too much to think about, lol.










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                  • SSJ Jup81
                    • 6 years 4 months ago
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                    Retro1986 wrote:
                    "There's nothing wrong with giving an opinion, but at the same time, one should be respectful towards those who may oppose it, as I doubt anyone likes to see the stuff that he or she likes bashed."

                    So say i said my opinion was that 2+2=5, you would have to respect that....bullshit!
                    That's not an opinion. That's just wrong in general because no matter how you try to twist it, 2+2 will never equal 5.
                    Retro1986 wrote:
                    Your opinions are WROOOOOONG!!!
                    There's no such thing as a "wrong opinion".
                    Retro1986 wrote:
                    The reason you didn't like stuff like X-men, and Gargoyles is probably because your a girl, or because your brain couldn't follow it.
                    I can assure you that wasn't the case. I liked Spiderman and Batman, but I found X-Men boring and I found Gargoyles boring, until I watched it again years later. I still never found X-Men interesting. This statement and assumption is sexist remark. The only thing this proves, is that my tastes and your tastes aren't the same. Just because I don't like something, doesn't mean other people will and vice- versa. You're really showing your lack of maturity level here by making such a blatant statement.
                    Retro1986 wrote:
                    Which is why tv shows are so simple, plain and boaring today. Just look at the shows for kids now compared to back then. You would actually have to think, if you were a child watching a cartoon back in the day, now the shows are just dumb.
                    The majority of my cartoon watching was in the 80s, to be completely honest. The shows were solely for entertainment, imo, unless it was a series aimed at older children, and even then, depending on the series, the storylines weren't usually all that serious. The same goes for 90s cartoons.
                    Retro1986 wrote:
                    WWF? Who's your favorite, Hulk Hogan and John Cena? That would explain it. lol!
                    Once again, you're showing your stupidity, or either you have selective reading. I was naming stuff from the 90s that I watched and/or liked. I even mentioned WCW.
                    Retro1986 wrote:
                    Then your on a site about television trying to tell other people about television why?!
                    This site isn't just about television. It's about anything from the past. I talk about television shows I liked, I don't waste my energy complaining about stuff I don't like or have control over like some people do here, and you're no exception.
                    Retro1986 wrote:
                    Does anybody else see how stupid these people are being?.....anyone?
                    anyone?
                    No, not really.
                    Retro1986 wrote:
                    Maybe because you never watched them!!!!!
                    Obviously untrue. I watched a lot of television in the past, but , for me, there's not much of a difference aside from what type of television shows we have now. You still have the boring stuff and the interesting stuff regardless of the decade. You have trend-like things too. Seems that during the 80s and part of the 90s, family sitcoms were "the thing". In the 80s, seems that toy-based cartoons were in.
                    Retro1986 wrote:
                    This is getting ridiculas. If your ignorant to television why are you talking like an expert.
                    Get off of this site.
                    Oh, just because I don't obsess or whine like a spoiled brat who can't have my way, I shouldn't be allowed to give my opinion on something I feel is getting out of hand and ridiculous? There's nothing wrong with reminiscing, it's a problem when you start bashing anything outside of your childhood.
                    Retro1986 wrote:
                    That's because they were brought up watching the usual mindless dribble of today.
                    Actually, no. It's called a generation gap. My father didn't care for the stuff I grew up with, since he liked what he grew up with. Does that mean that what he watched is any better than what I watched or vice-versa with what the children are watching now? No, not really. It's too subjective.
                    Retro1986 wrote:
                    That's why "slow people" like a few on this thread don't like tv back then. Too much to think about, lol.
                    Nobody said that. What's been said is that not everything in the past was all that great. Some people are viewing whatever they watched in the past with rose-colored glasses. I can name quite a few shows I loved when young, that don't appeal to me now that I'm older, and the majority of those shows, outside of stuff like the WB cartoons and most of the toons Disney put out in the 80s, were kiddy or too corny or dated for me to fully enjoy.
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                    • liukangx
                      • 6 years 4 months ago
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                      		 but t.v. isn't really business, VH1 is a prime example I dont see how it is business having a show about some gold digging whore trying to find "love". The better term is they aren't making good business, it is mostly negative stuff.

                      or a rapper who sold out to have a show only to end it by "marrying" one of his 13 baby's moms.(fight the power my ass, he did sell out quicker than the iPhone).

                      Cartoons aside, there isn't anything new I can tolerate, stuff that is directed to teens is as fake as can be and makes no sense, I am glad there are still ways to see old teen stuff, "The Breakfast Club" really helped and :Fast times at Ridgemont High"

                      I still love gaming but I have some MINOR problems with it now, but that is a story for another day.


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                      • mlw1984
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                        		 Even though I said wasn't coming back on this thread, I'm going to say this. Just because YOU haven't watched any TV shows since 2000 doesn't mean that the rest of us is going to do the same thing. You are basically saying the same old tired cliched rant "LOLZ! TV SUX NOW, IT WAS BETTER IN THE 1990's!". Do you have any proof to show why TV sucks now and why it was better in the 1990's? If you do, please show us, if not, stop whining already and grow the hell up. You are 21 years old, please start acting like it and not like a 5 year old. Even my 14 year old cousin is more mature. Do not tell people to get off the site just because they think differently from you and aren't whining like little kids just because they can't have it their way.

                        You're assuming that I don't like retro shows, well I do, if I didn't, I probably wouldn't have joined this site at all.

                        It's ok to have an opinion, but to start bashing on other people's opinions just because they are different from yours is a different story.
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                        • liukangx
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                          		 ^ I know that isnt directed at me because

                          1. Im 18

                          2. I never said "tell people to get off the site just because they think differently from you"


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                          • mlw1984
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                            liukangx wrote:
                            ^ I know that isnt directed at me because

                            1. Im 18

                            2. I never said "tell people to get off the site just because they think differently from you"


                            No, it's for Retro1986, that wasn't directed at you. But we must of posted at the same time. :?:
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                            • liukangx
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                              		 oh... well then............ Victory is mine!!!!!!


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                              • Retro1986
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                                		 SS J Jup81: "That's not an opinion. That's just wrong in general because no matter how you try to twist it, 2+2 will never equal 5."

                                Yeah, that's exsactly what I'm saying douche. Your just wrong in general too! No matter how you twist it, your always going to be wrong about this. Your opinion about 2+2=5 was wrong, and your opinion about the 90's and today IS WROOOONG! Loser.


                                "I found Gargoyles boring, until I watched it again years later." Because you weren't that bright as a child and couldn't comprehend. That's why a few people think today's tv is better then the 90's. I already explained this a few times but you keep saying the same stupid crap over and over again. I expected it though.... You kids are retarted.


                                "Obviously untrue. I watched a lot of television in the past" Yet you keep making statments like ...."I didn't watch much television in the 90s and watch even less now"
                                MORON!!

                                "This site isn't just about television. It's about anything from the past." Ummmm....It pretty much is. See all those 80's and 90's tv logo's everywhere? Dink.


                                "It's called a generation gap. My father didn't care for the stuff I grew up with, since he liked what he grew up with." your an idiot, kids are going to watch what's on tv, the same shows aren't always on which is why kids watch different shows today. Because the old one's aren't on. Lol, what do you think as babies are born their brains are just magically changed to like something else as they evolve? HAHA. and...umm....Your father sounds as bright as you do, cudos!

                                "the majority of those shows, outside of stuff like the WB cartoons and most of the toons Disney put out in the 80s, were kiddy or too corny or dated for me to fully enjoy" That's because your a tard who doesn't like good shows and only watches dumb crap. There's a few more like you in the world too, don't worry I'm sure you'll find some one. As for now, if you don't like old tv....LEAVE! Nobody wants you here anyway.








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                                • Retro1986
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                                  		 liukangx: "or a rapper who sold out to have a show only to end it by "marrying" one of his 13 baby's moms.(fight the power my ass, he did sell out quicker than the iPhone).

                                  Cartoons aside, there isn't anything new I can tolerate, stuff that is directed to teens is as fake as can be and makes no sense, I am glad there are still ways to see old teen stuff, "The Breakfast Club" really helped and :Fast times at Ridgemont High"

                                  That's so true. Which is why tv today is mindless dribble which will never compare to the 90's. But some think there's "no difference" lol, idiots.



                                  mlw1984: Shut up.
                                  Who said I never watched any shows after 2000?
                                  Don't be an idiot. Make some points and then I'll let you talk to me like a big boy.

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                                  • Sunni
                                    • 6 years 4 months ago
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                                    		 There's one thing Retro1986 said that I really agree with about the kids of today. I think it's kind of ridiculous to say that the kids of today don't like our old programming because it's too slow or out of date. I too find it very hard to believe that there was some magical evolution that suddenly rendered children's brains unable to process something slower paced than what they watch.

                                    I totally agree that the real reason children watch our programming and don't like it or say it's boring is because it's never on anymore and they're much to used to the attention span lowering shows that are on. Take my generation for example. Some older shows like Looney Tunes and The Flintstones were still on in the 90's. We watched them and a lot of us still love them. And not just because they are classics, but because we were able to give them a chance and we were genuinely entertained by them.

                                    I really do feel sorry for today's generation of kids, not just because they missed out on the golden age of cartoons, but also because they may never get to see the classics like we did. Imagine being a kid and looking at your vitamin bottle and wondering where that cartoon character came from. :(
                                    Recipe for nostalgia: Mix 80's and 90's culture. Stir in some good memories. Add a dash of reflection. Mixture should now taste bittersweet. Shake well and enjoy!
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                                    • SSJ Jup81
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                                      		Sunni, I don't think it was ever stated that children of today don't like old programming. What was said was that it shouldn't be expected if they don't, and actually, I was referring to it the other way around, not vice-versa. We as adults have no reason or right to complain about shows aimed at a young audience of today because we're not the demographic or even in the age range. We're the young group of yesterday, not today. The shows aren't meant to appeal to us nor is it being made to cater to us. Getting right down to it, I have more of a problem with adults complaining about kids shows than most anything else, and then turn around and compare it to what they watched, which was probably equally bad or corny or whatever.

                                      As I pointed out once before, as a child, I loved the original TMNT, but watching it again nearly twenty years later, excited since I had the first volume of it on DVD, I couldn't figure out the fascination I had with it. It was fun, but it wasn't very entertaining for me as an adult. Same goes for the Super Mario cartoons and a few others (of course there are exceptions, as there are some older things I can still watch and enjoy even at this age). Most of the stuff I watched was pretty corny, yet fun, but wasn't the same as how it was when I originally watched it at eight and nine years old.

                                      The main thing I do agree with, and I'm sure most can, is that it's sad that most of these kids don't have exposure to some of the older cartoons, and I'm not talking about the 80s/90s stuff. I mean the golden age/era of cartoons, like from Warner Bros and Tex Avery.
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                                      • Hiro
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                                        Sunni wrote:
                                        There's one thing Retro1986 said that I really agree with about the kids of today. I think it's kind of ridiculous to say that the kids of today don't like our old programming because it's too slow or out of date. I too find it very hard to believe that there was some magical evolution that suddenly rendered children's brains unable to process something slower paced than what they watch.

                                        I totally agree that the real reason children watch our programming and don't like it or say it's boring is because it's never on anymore and they're much to used to the attention span lowering shows that are on. Take my generation for example. Some older shows like Looney Tunes and The Flintstones were still on in the 90's. We watched them and a lot of us still love them. And not just because they are classics, but because we were able to give them a chance and we were genuinely entertained by them.

                                        I really do feel sorry for today's generation of kids, not just because they missed out on the golden age of cartoons, but also because they may never get to see the classics like we did. Imagine being a kid and looking at your vitamin bottle and wondering where that cartoon character came from. :(


                                        If you are talking about the REAL Golden Era of Cartoons (30s-50s) then yes, I agree. If you are talking about 80s/90s cartoons then no. They aren't golden age since the majority of the cartoons from those eras are pretty much forgotten and not known by too many people over 35. Looney Tunes, Tom and Jerry, Popeye etc has such a wide appeal and all generations could watch them and enjoy them. That's pretty much the opposite of most 80s/90s cartoons. (what I mean by most is like 60-65 percent of those cartoons). Do I enjoy some 90s cartoons? Yes. Am I complaining about how much cartoons has changed? No. To me, I don't see much of a difference between 80s/90s cartoons and today's cartoons. It's pretty much the same 4 things: Toy centric cartoons, cartoons with potty humor, video game cartoons and superhero cartoons. The only difference is the animation style and that's it. The Golden Age cartoons were never for children, they were meant for adults. Then the dumb ass soccer moms of the 60s started complaining about how violence the cartoons were so they censored them to death. Luckily, before I came to America, I got to watch these cartoons uncut.

                                        SSJ Jup81 has a point: If you are an adult and whining about kids shows, then you shouldn't even be since the shows aren't made for you anymore. All this "Cartoons suck now" crap isn't new. My dad thought most of the stuff I watched sucked and perfered the golden age cartoons. I don't even know why some of you people keep continually complaining about today's shows and then you say "80s/90s cartoons were better". Geez, they ALL weren't good. For every Gargoyles or Gummi Bears, you had junk like Pound Puppies, Hammerman, Street Sharks, Stone Protectors, The Popples and so many others. I don't get why people think EVERY 80s/90s cartoon is good and every cartoon today suck. Some cartoons today do suck, but there are good ones if you would just give them a chance. As an animation student, we have been watching clips of 80s cartoons and I would have to say that the majority of the cartoons from that era just flat out suck and were made to sell toys or video games. I'm not saying that ALL 80s cartoon suck, but most do and they are seriously OVERRATED. You only like them because you watched them as a KID and I agree with what knuclear200x said about only liking old shows because you saw them when you was young.

                                        And you guys will have to understand that these old cartoons will never be coming back to the main networks of Nick and CN because that isn't what makes the money. They are both big enough now to fill their whole schedule with original programming.

                                        Yes, it sucks when your favorite shows are cancelled, sucks when it goes off the air completely, but you must move on. Just let the kids of today enjoy the stuff on now and they will eventually discover the old cartoons. There's nothing wrong with liking both OLD and NEW stuff, but to say only old stuff (or new stuff for that matter) is good, then you are being biased.
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                                        • Retro1986
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                                          		 Hiro: "To me, I don't see much of difference between 80s/90s cartoons and today's cartoons." Because your simple. Did you read liukangx post 2 up. It's so true too. and your dad is a bum too!

                                          Sunni made very good points.

                                          You didn't like TMNT, and super mario brothers and other awesome cartoons because you only can enjoy stupid shows because your stupid. It's just your stupid opinion. A stupid opinion for a stupid person. That's why dumbass.








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