• 9 years 10 months ago
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    If you are a wrestling fan from the 1980's I have bad news for you. If you own a WWF video from that time keep it, it is highly valuable. Due to a court order from 2002 the WWE can't release any material with the WWF logo or initials on it . Therefore, we have been stripped of seeing one of wrestlings greatest periods(1983-1992). The birth of Hulkamania and everything else.

    The WWE does now have an On-Damand channel on Digital Cable but most of the stuff they show is not from the best years. And they have gone to show WCW and AWA and the other tape libraries they own.


    I hope the WWE appeals the decsion sometime in the future and maybe we will get to see Wrestlemania 1 and other classic stuff on DVD.

    Let me know what you think.
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      • 9 years 10 months ago
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      Half truth! That is for the more recent WWF scratch logo that was introduced in 1998. However, all other content audio and such with the lettering WWF. Must be removed. That is why anything that says WWF won't be released for fear of the suit going back to court.

      I recently baught a WWF re-release and they said WWF and it was silenced when they said it.

      It really sucks!
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        • 9 years 10 months ago
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        retrocop wrote:
        Half truth! That is for the more recent WWF scratch logo that was introduced in 1998. However, all other content audio and such with the lettering WWF must be removed.


        Got confused. Are you saying that the scratch logo can still be shown, or that the original can? And like pretty much everyone else, I agree that the whole thing with the stupid, stuck-up World Wildlife Fund sucked. The McMahon organization used the letters "WWF" for years and had naturally come to be widely recognized as such. The Wildlife Fund refusing to let the matter go after so long just seems rather immature to me, unless it was really causing them problems.

        Anyway, even though I stopped watching wrestling around the late '90s (when the "wrestling" part became less important than ever), that whole issue still irked me. Oh well...
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          • 9 years 10 months ago
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          The scratch logo is the one that must be blurred. The old logo doesn't, however, any audio where they say WWF recent or old school must be muted.

          What really sucks is that if McMahon and Co. do release anything it will probably have new annoncers and take away from the authenticity of the event.
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            • 9 years 10 months ago
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            retrocop wrote:
            What really sucks is that if McMahon and Co. do release anything it will probably have new annoncers and take away from the authenticity of the event.

            Indeed.

            From what I understand, the Wildlife jerks apparently had the initials first. "WWF" wasn't always the name of the McMahon organization; it was introduced as a modified form of World Wide Wrestling Federation. Perhaps when that happened, the panda pouters were already around. Could be wrong.
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              • 9 years 10 months ago
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              That whole ordeal still bugs me, but I stopped watching all the pro wrestling programs early in the 90's. After Yokozuna was gone. :roll:
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                • 8 years 8 months ago
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                ADULT CONTENT:

                What I think it's really about is that McMahon refused to sell WWF as a whole to the casinos when they had the WWF casino and as a result, they got muscled by "anonymous" donors to the World Wildlife Fund. That's just speculation but I mean there has GOT to be a reason similar to it. Where did the money COME FROM to even TAKE the McMahons to court if the Wildlife people were LOSING money from donations? I remember as a kid I got called the "bad" kid in school for even LIKING wrestling and beating the crap out of the Napoleon Dynamite retards with family in ATLANTIC CITY (site of many previous Wrestlemanias) who weren't ALLOWED to watch wrestling. Contradiction much on that? MAYBE! Suddenly, I move across town and Hogan is in court on STEROIDS and Vince nearly loses his SHIRT? Yeah, then those same jerkwads who were getting beat by me everyday SUDDENLY liked WCW (prolly another organization that got money to punk McMahon) but JUMPED THE BANDWAGON to WWF when all hell broke loose with the WILDLIFE COURT CASE! HMMMMMMMMM.... it makes a guy WONDER, DOESN'T IT?! :twisted: You WANNA mess with me? Go there and SEE what happens, BROTHER!!!! :P8):lol:
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                  • 8 years 8 months ago
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                  retrocop wrote:
                  If you are a wrestling fan from the 1980's I have bad news for you. If you own a WWF video from that time keep it, it is highly valuable. Due to a court order from 2002 the WWE can't release any material with the WWF logo or initials on it . Therefore, we have been stripped of seeing one of wrestlings greatest periods(1983-1992). The birth of Hulkamania and everything else.

                  The WWE does now have an On-Damand channel on Digital Cable but most of the stuff they show is not from the best years. And they have gone to show WCW and AWA and the other tape libraries they own.


                  I hope the WWE appeals the decsion sometime in the future and maybe we will get to see Wrestlemania 1 and other classic stuff on DVD.

                  Let me know what you think.


                  You are fortunately misinformed.

                  I have the Wrestlemania box set and the old blocky WWF logo is in tact. The scratch logo is the only one that gets blurred. The initals WWF are censored when someone says it but they are allowed to say World Wrestling Federation.

                  Believe me, WWE would not sit idly by and let their massive video archive go to waste. You can get your hands on the old stuff in tact just fine (with the exception of having people actually say "WWF" although they can say World Wrestling Federation).

                  The Wrestlemania, Jake Roberts, and Bret Hart sets have come out recently and they are all awesome.

                  The Jesse Ventura commentary is all there on the Wrestlemania DVDs. They'd be unwatchable otherwise.

                  Gorilla: What do you think, Jess?

                  *one minute of awkward silence*
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                    • 8 years 8 months ago
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                    did u know...Owen Hart is dead!


                    oops...got caught up in the wrestling days that didnt suck again...i do that some times...
                    Dude, chicks are like voltron, the more you hook up the better it gets-Tucker (red vs blue)
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                      • 8 years 8 months ago
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                      OK, let's end the confusion once and for all:

                      Like hulkamania85 said, WWE is allowed to show the block-style logo. They can also say "the World Wrestling Federation" but not "the WWF." The scratch logo can't be shown at all, though there are instances where you can see it.

                      I'm sure I'll get flamed for what I'm about to say, but hear me out:

                      As big of a wrestling fan as I am, I feel I must point something out in the Fund's defense. Yes, what they did seems petty. And yes, even though they own the initials legally, people will associate them with McMahon's company for years to come. But in 1994, the two sides reached an agreement that prohibited the wrestling company from using the "WWF" initials for marketing purposes outside of North America. Vince shot himself in the foot by blatantly refusing to abide by these terms (which were laid out in a legal contract, by the way). Now, why the Fund waited until 2000 to do anything about it is odd, but the sad part is that this all could have been avoided had Vince simply held up his end of the deal.

                      What really sucks, at least to me, is that the Fund probably would've let the wrestling company use the initials in exchange for a donation, say a million or so a year. But Vince "I will not be beat by anyone" McMahon wouldn't play ball, and now his video editing team probably hates him for it.

                      Dammit, Vince, swallow your pride and work something out with the Fund!
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                        • 8 years 8 months ago
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                        ^^^Yeah, Vince probably could have avoided this. Although it does seem like they waited on it until WWF was popular and it could get themselves some publicity.


                        Herokip93 wrote:
                        did u know...Owen Hart is dead!


                        oops...got caught up in the wrestling days that didnt suck again...i do that some times...


                        WWE still has its moments. Trish and Mickie James are having a good feud, Rey Mysterio is the champion on Smackdown, and the ladder match at Wrestlemania was awesome.

                        However, Cena as champion is defintely a not so good spot. That belt is awful looking.
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