• sm2000
    • 8 years 4 months ago
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    		 I lean toward Streets of Rage for the simple fact that it was a good old fashioned beat 'em up with nice, simple controls. (I hated the whole "let's make the moves as complicated as possible so you need a GUIDE to know how to actually do anything" craze that came in the wake of Street fighter II...)

    PLUS - it had one of the hands-down most AWESOME music soundtracks EVER in a Genesis game. Yuzo Koshiro was the king of kick-ass game music back then... I still crank up my mp3's of the soundtrack from time to time. :)

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    • rirotostichi
      • 8 years 4 months ago
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      		 Streets of Rage!
      I didn't know Final Fight well
      I think I played the arcade version once, though
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      • Krayzee
        • 8 years 3 months ago
        • Posts: 1038
        		 Streets Of Rage was awesome!

        I liked SOR better.
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        • flamepanther
          • 8 years 3 months ago
          • Posts: 948
          sm2000 wrote:
          I lean toward Streets of Rage for the simple fact that it was a good old fashioned beat 'em up with nice, simple controls. (I hated the whole "let's make the moves as complicated as possible so you need a GUIDE to know how to actually do anything" craze that came in the wake of Street fighter II...)
          Uh, Final Fight wasn't complicated to play at all. It's the EPITOME of the old fashined beat-em-up with simple controls. It's far easier to control than the games from Technos (Double Dragon, et al) that originally started the genre, and no more complicated than the SoR games.
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          • sm2000
            • 8 years 3 months ago
            • Posts: 441
            flamepanther wrote:
            Uh, Final Fight wasn't complicated to play at all. It's the EPITOME of the old fashined beat-em-up with simple controls. It's far easier to control than the games from Technos (Double Dragon, et al) that originally started the genre, and no more complicated than the SoR games.


            I must be thinking of a different one with a similar title... Wasn't there a Neo Geo game that had a similar name? I always get those mixed up.

            Well, I still lean toward Streets of Rage on the basis of the kick-ass music then. :D

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            • flamepanther
              • 8 years 3 months ago
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              sm2000 wrote:
              flamepanther wrote:
              Uh, Final Fight wasn't complicated to play at all. It's the EPITOME of the old fashined beat-em-up with simple controls. It's far easier to control than the games from Technos (Double Dragon, et al) that originally started the genre, and no more complicated than the SoR games.


              I must be thinking of a different one with a similar title... Wasn't there a Neo Geo game that had a similar name? I always get those mixed up.

              Well, I still lean toward Streets of Rage on the basis of the kick-ass music then. :D

              - Sean
              Um, if you're thinking of a Neo-Geo game with a similar title, the only thing I can think of is Fatal Fury, which was a 1-on-1 fighting game, not a scrolling beat-em-up.

              Me, I'd lean toward the Final Fight series because it has better graphics, still has pretty good music, and is unmistakably the series that SoR tries to borrow its look, feel, and gameplay from.

              I still don't think anyone is qualified to answer the question unless they've played both the arcade version of the original Final Fight in the arcade, and Final Fight 3 for the SNES. The SNES version of Final Fight was a joke, and even the Sega CD version was downgraded from the arcade (except for the music, which was upgraded beyond even SoR's music thanks to Sega CD's redbook audio). Final Fight 3 is hands-down the best beat-em-up I've played on any console.
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              • sm2000
                • 8 years 3 months ago
                • Posts: 441
                		 I have played both, I just got my names mixed up in my comparison (Fatal Fury was the one I was thinking of). But I undeniably played Streets of Rage waaaaayyyy more, so I stand by that one.

                The music sold me on Streets of Rage, hands down. It was far above the average game soundtrack of its time. As for the game itself, loved pretty much everything about it! I recall enjoying Final Fight as well, but it just didn't "grab" me as much as Streets of Rage.

                Final Fight may have been the original by which all that followed were inspired, but I liked the style and overall "feel" of Streets of Rage better. And the music. Did I mention the music? I think I'll go listen to the music right now, actually... :)

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                • System
                  • 8 years 3 months ago
                  • Posts: 74809
                  		 eazy there peepz :D streets of rage woz much better than final fight, but they were both enjoyable! The real question iz how comes they have never released a new streets of rage?!
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                  • flamepanther
                    • 8 years 3 months ago
                    • Posts: 948
                    AntMan wrote:
                    eazy there peepz :D streets of rage woz much better than final fight, but they were both enjoyable! The real question iz how comes they have never released a new streets of rage?!
                    Because SoR 3 was awful :P
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                    • Alex Dee Rokket
                      • 8 years 3 months ago
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                      		 I like Streets of Rage better but here's my spill about the 2 games.

                      Final Fight was the first game I played in that bash em up style. I played it on the arcades first and I thought it was amazing , it felt revolutionary unlike any other game out there. You could go around bashing people, it wasn't just another platformer and the graphics were really cool too.

                      However as pointed out you really can't pass judgment until you've played the arcade version. The SNES version of Final Fight is a poor conversion of the game. Maybe I think that way because I'm a fan of the game but SNES version has pretty poor graphics, you can't fight as many enemies at once, plus everything feels so much more clostrophobic on the SNES version. It is also slower overall than the arcade version.

                      I also didn't like how on the SNES the original version came castrated with only 2 player choices.

                      Final Fight 2 wasn't the greatest of fighting games and for me it felt like filler all the way. Apart from Hagar the other characters were very uninspiring. The levels felt much the same as Final Fight 1, the only difference is you went around the world. The bosses didn't seem very interesting either unlike in the first game.

                      Final Fight 3 was a very redeemable game that I don't thnk many people really gave it a chance. It came rather late in the SNES lifetime but it was more interactive than the previous Final Fights plus the graphics seemed closer to the Street Fighter Alpha series. You could enter secret rooms, run around and do combo moves. It was a good game but it still had something lacking. For me at least what lacked the most were the characters. Again Hagar saved the day but the others are not memorable at all.
                      Setting that aside, the level design was great and overall graphically it was more cartoonish than the original game but again my feeling is it leaned more towards the Alpha type environment/game engine.

                      So that's that about Final Fight good game and pioneering but I like Streets of Rage better for a number of reasons:

                      Ok SOR isn't without flaws but the game was always more fun than Final Fight. I liked the graphics overall better especially in SOR 2 and 3, a lot more colorful than the Final Fight games, almost cartoonish but that never bothered me. The characters in all games are very memorable. Someone was saying about how in Final Fight you had to learn various moves, I remember that and by comparison, in SOR you had 1 button and that did it.

                      I thought the special feature in SOR 1 was really cool with the cop car coming around and one of the cops firing this massive bazooka, ingenius really.

                      The level design in the first 1 wasn't that great but it was the first game afterall but it was so much better than what the NES had... mighty final fight which was just plain silly.

                      The only flaws as far as SOR goes is with the first game, where the characters were kinda stiff but the other games are just awesome. SOR is one of those games that I can never get enough of.

                      Without bagging Final Fight, overall SOR wins. Final Fight is nevertheless a classic and I still enjoy playing it but there's a more fun atmosphere in SOR than Final Fight.
                      The only real FF hit was the first game on the arcades. Despite 3 being better than 2 it still didn't feel right to me. Something was just odd about FF3, maybe it was the stiffness of the characters I don't know but just something didn't work out there.
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                      • flamepanther
                        • 8 years 3 months ago
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                        		 Strictly speaking, SoR isn't and can't be more colorful than Final Fight. All three games were on the Sega Genesis which has a maximum number of 64 colors on screen at any given time. This makes the usual back alleys and run down bad neighborhoods look even more drab. I don't know what the arcade CPS1 hardware is capable of, but I know it's better than that. The SNES displays 256 colors, plus more if you pull some tricks. With Final Fight's inclusion of vivid colors for the clothing of many mad gears members, beautiful sunsets, etc, the graphics definitely beat Streets of Rage.

                        Strictly speaking, none of the characters in either series can be said to have much personality. They walk around and beat people up. At least the original three Final Fight characters gain some personality through their inclusion in other games (Street Fighter, Slam Masters) and through the cutscenes in Final Fight 3. No memorable characters in Final Fight 3 besides Haggar? Uh... OMGWTF GUY! The story tie-in to the Street Fighter Alpha games was a great touch. Dean's backward-spiked blond hair and his electric punch make me wonder if he later becomes Captain Commando ;) You don't have to be a cyborg or a boxing kangaroo to be memorable.

                        Streets of Rage required the use of no fewer than THREE buttons (attack, jump, special) vs Final Fight's two (attack, jump).

                        I guess some people just have poor memories.
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