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System 8 years 10 months ago Posts: 54340	I think this was like the first movie I ever saw. I was quite an impressionable young lad, so this movie has pretty much shaped the course of my life. Not as much as Star Wars, but almost as much. There's only been like 3 years in my entire life where I wasn't into this movie (and the other ones to a lesser degree). I'm looking at going into filmmaking and I've gotta say...this is one film that inspires me to make them. Richard Donner's just a great filmmaker. It may look like he's losing it, since I hear Timeline wasn't that great, but one dud out of a solid dozen films isn't half bad. Once, before I die, I'd love to see Superman on the big screen. I've seen it on the small screen a lot, even in 5.1 and widescreen, but not larger-than-life in a theater. I'd probably cry, piss/crap my pants, and vomit because it'd be so cool. Especially at the end, when the warden says, "This country's safe again, Superman. Thanks to you!" "No, warden. Don't thank me. We're all part of the same team. Good night!" Then he flies away, with the spotlight following him, then it cuts to the shot of him flying in space then he flies above the camera smiling at the audience. Wow. It's just like the perfect ending for a movie like that. It had the perfect opening, too, with the comic book. So many superhero movies don't seem to explore the "hero" part of the characters anymore. Spiderman's come close in both films, but they're still not close to capturing it like Superman. It's kind of sad, too, because you have more fun as a 20-something watching Superman than you do watching Spiderman as someone your own age. At least that's how I feel. I get more of a thrill from the helicopter rescue than the parade bombing by Green Goblin. Flying under the San Andreas fault and then saving the school bus and the train were more exciting than the train fight between Spidey and Doc Ock. Spiderman just seems to be relying on formula made by movies like Superman and Batman, where Superman was faster than a locomotive and leaped tall buildings in a single bound. The end of Superman II was more of the typical superhero movie we have nowadays in Spiderman and The Hulk and X-Men, where superhero make super crashes through walls and roads and windows. Another thing I like about Superman is that it wasn't all about his use of power for the shear thrill of it. He used it for good. Spiderman's gotten better at that. In the first movie, it didn't seem like he did much of it. In Spidey 2, saving the little kids was freakin sweet. In Superman, he saved Lois twice, got a cat out of a tree, saved Air Force One, saved a schoolbus, caught several burglars, saved a train full of people, saved Jimmy Olsen, and put Lex Luthor behind bars. What did the X-Men do? "Ooooh...I can shoot a red laser out of my eyes!" "I have a metal endoskeleton with claws fused to my regular skeleton!" Wow. Truly amazing. (Yeah, right.) Really, this all stems down to DC being better than Marvel. But that's another story.

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System 8 years 10 months ago Posts: 54340	umm...i agree supes was a great movie- set the standard for all comic movies to follow. but to be honest i got dumber and dumber the more i read your post. i can't disagree with you more when you say dc is better than marvel. ! there's a reason there are much more marvel movies than dc movies.

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Mavrick_45
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arnt they making a new superman movie?
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System 8 years 10 months ago Posts: 54340	Yeah they are making a new movie. Bryan Singer's directing. Just because there's more Marvel than DC doesn't make Marvel better. Same goes with Star Wars. Just because there's more special effects doesn't mean the movie's automatically better.

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System 8 years 10 months ago Posts: 54340	wow you could'nt have missed the point of my post more.i never said that because there are more marvel movies ,makes them better than dc. read it again huh?

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System 8 years 10 months ago Posts: 54340	Thanks, Janea. I like the way it seems like DC Comics portray the more human sides of the characters than Marvel does. DC is to Marvel what Star Wars is to Star Trek. I feel like DC is more universal and user-friendly, whereas Marvel's more for the die-hard comic fans. In the same way, you get a lot more takers for Star Wars, because it's not really steeped in a lot of intellectual scifi. It's basically a fairy tale (like many that we were read at bedtime growing up) set in space. It's more accessible. DC shows how weirdness can turn into normalcy, but Marvel does the opposite and turns normalcy into weirdness with a lot of pulp. Spider-Man might be a great hero for 20-somethings who feel like Peter Parkers, but Superman and Batman stand for so much more than being a rejected kid who's trying to do good here and there. Superman and Batman have broader visions to their missions and that's what makes them inspire me more. "To fight for truth, justice, and the American way." What a great motto. Plus, the DC movies have had better music anyway. (Even though Danny Elfman did Batman, Spiderman, and The Hulk--which is quite a bit of crossover. Batman's got the best score of all three.)

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System 8 years 10 months ago Posts: 54340	again...i'll have to disagree- superman had a better theme than all the comic movies- with bat's coming in a distant second. and to clarify a bit- i never directly said dc or marvel was better than one or another.what i implied was regardless of who's better than who-hollywood is making more and more marvel movies than dc movies. again i dont know the reasoning behind this but one can come to a conclusion on stats alone, and not have to actually read a single comic. and furthermore, while you're on the subject of bashing spidey- how can you possibly say batman and spidey can't relate?!! they both started the superhero business for the EXACT same reason. bruce had his parents murdered in front of him. peter had his uncle murdered. just because they have different powers, does'nt mean they have a totally different story or reason for their affluent 'crime fighting'. and i also can't wrap my head around how you relate marvel comics being so different from the real(dc) world as star wars is from star trek. did'nt marvel used to MAKE star wars comics? lol!

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System 8 years 10 months ago Posts: 54340	plankeye x wrote: i dont know the reasoning behind this but one can come to a conclusion on stats alone, and not have to actually read a single comic. That conclusion might be that Marvel is simply taking more initiative in Hollywood (from a financial standpoint, Marvel needs the money more than DC). Sorry, but I can't ever agree that you could conclude that one is better than the other without having to "actually read a single comic." I can see how a non-comic reader might, but it'd be a rather hasty conclusion. I do understand some of your other points though. In regards to what Thirds mentioned, I also can't entirely agree that Marvel's comics are less personal than DC's. Traditionally, the situation has been known for being the other way around, considering the dilemmas of Spider-Man's guilt over his uncle's death, Iron Man's drinking habit causing as much chaos as any super-villain could, Banner's grief over struggling to control the monster within, and the X-Men's plight in a world of discrimination. Recently, however, DC has scored big time in the humanity area with Identity Crisis. Back on topic: Good movie. Anyone know where I can find the original version of the theme online? I've done a little searching already.

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System 8 years 10 months ago Posts: 54340	speaking of dc movies- i hear their making a flash movie. i for one dug the ole 90's live action show. though, im not sure a whole movie needs to be dedicated to him. i remember one episode had mark hamil playing a 'joker' type character. pretty surreal. as for the marvel genre- i also hear an ironman movie is in the works.

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System 8 years 10 months ago Posts: 54340	I heard the new Superman movie is going to be great. Kevin Spacey plays Lex Luthor, Kate Bosworth plays Lois Lane, and a new unknown named Brandon Roth plays Superman. I heard he fits the part, he is 6'2 about 225lbs dark hair and a athletic build.

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System 8 years 10 months ago Posts: 54340	I saw Superman in the theatres......and I remember being completely and utterly freaked out when Lois Lane dies, Superman freaks out, and spins the world backwards to reverse time. It freaked me out enough that I haven't seen the movie in 20+ years and would probably flich at that same part in the movie today........it wasn't what I was expecting in a Superman movie. I also saw Superman II on the bigscreen.....and of course, its a true classic. I'm looking forward to the DC port of Constantine (aka: Hellblazer) from their Vertigo line. I stopped reading the book in the early 1990's, but I remembered I liked it alot from the dozen or so issues of it I have....

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evil-monkey 8 years 10 days ago Posts: 433	I so wish I could see Superman 1 & 2 on the big screen. I saw Superman 4 that way but that movie pretty much sucked. I've always liked the effects of Superman better than the stuff out now. I think seeing Superman flying around still looks better and more believable than the CGI that overused today. I really hope at least a little of that old school magic is captured in the new Superman Returns movie.
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MattNash 8 years 10 days ago Posts: 4652 Account Disabled	I think Superman 2 was my favorite one, because of the worthy foes. The Superman was great too, except I thought the reverse time thing was kind of lame. I mean if you could do that, you would be God.

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Predaking 8 years 10 days ago Posts: 1923	Just thought you guys/gals would like to see the new [u]Superman Trailer[/u]. As you know, it's directed by Bryan Singer who helmed both X-Men and X2: X-Men United. It looks promising, with a heroic, epic almost mythic feel to it. I hope you enjoy this TheRuleofThirds, this is Superman as a Hero!
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tonewinwy 8 years 10 days ago Posts: 2145	Superman ROCKS. Christopher Reeve will always be the best Superman.
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