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    For me, it really depends on the show. I personally like(d) Digimon (well, the first three seasons [seasons 1 and 2 more so] and subtitled, don't like the English version much at all) and I like(d) Pokemon at one point, when it first came out in the states, what, six, seven years ago.

    I like some of the newer Nicktoon shows (Fairly Oddparents, Rocket Power, Jimmy Neutron, Rugurats AGU [to a certain extent]).

    The stuff I can't seem to really get into much are the shows that air on Cartoon Network, minus probably Teen Titans, Futurama, Tom & Jerry, and Family Guy...I don't watch the anime on the station (I can just download the subs of them anyway).

    I personally feel that the shows like Ed, Ed, Eddy and the other "Cartoon Cartoons" are a bit lame and hate the fact that that takes up the majority of the station's airtime.
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      • 9 years 6 months ago
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      See the twenty other threads about why new cartoons suck.
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        • 9 years 6 months ago
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        I just wish that these people would just make their own american cartoons again instead of just shipping all of this violent kiddie anime from Japan just because it's cheaper than having to come up with creators and stories!
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          If they copy something from the 80s they are ok, but still copies, if not they in general suck, but there are quite a few nice ones out there....
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            Doesn't seem like the new cartoons have much imagination. I just watched the intro to "C.O.P.S." and "MASK" and couldn't get over how cool the stuff on there looked. Plus, you had cartoon versions of grown-up movies--Rambo, Robocop, Police Academy, Ghostbusters. Not to mention there were about a billion cartoons about teddy bears. I'd venture to say the reason I don't like the cartoons nowadays (save for The Simpsons, Futurama, Family Guy, and King of the Hill) is because I'm not a kid anymore. Today's cartoons suck because they're meant for today's kids and I'm not one of them.

            (On a side note...does anybody else think that Ray from "The Real Ghostbusters" looks like Bill on "King of the Hill"?)
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              eh they'll ok, but some up them are kinda weirds. I do like Yu-gi-oh, Shaman King. I even like SpongeBob.
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                To be honest, I find that most "adult" cartoons make less sense than children's cartoons. Maybe because I haven't grown as much, I still pretty much watch them, but there are few of them that I like.

                Anyhow, about The Simpsons...I thought I would never say this, but I'm starting to get tired of them. This new season is BORING! The Halloween epsiode has to be the worst of them all! I used to like them a lot more during the first ten years, but after 2000, in my opinion, it has begun to go downhill! The only episodes that I hated from last season was when Lisa is elected as student body president and the one with Artie Ziff!!! YUCK!
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                  Not too long ago I would've agreed that the cartoons kids are watching today are so much worse than the stuff I watched as a kid in the 80s. But recently a friend of mine rented some episodes of GI Joe, Transformers and He-Man. Geez! I was amazed at how bad most of it really was. The stories were rediculously bad....the animation was terrible....and the voice acting just plain sucked. But I still have my memories of watching them as a kid and that'll be enough to keep me happy. Plus I just dug out what is left of my once mighty GI Joe toy collection (my mom sold most of it in garage sales...including ALL the vehicles/playsets that I had). So at least I still have that.
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                    :) Some of the cleverly absurd or sarcastic ones are OK, like Sponge Bob, Fairly Odd Parents, and Ed,Edd, 'n Eddy(it has it's moments).

                    :evil: But I hate this outpour of incredibly lame and cheaply made anime that has flooded all Saturday morning kids channels. Are the script writers aware of the real world at all or are they just poor stories? either way they almost all suck!

                    :? And regular kids channels don't have a lot to show for themselves either. Cartoon Network: Mucha Lucha? come on! The other cartoons unique to the Network have some witty humor, but it is usually done again and again so many times that it's not funny anymore or there is an absence of funny moments altogether.

                    :x The Newest show that I can't stand is "Jimmy Neutron". I'll admit some of the characters are pretty funny(Sheen is hilarious). But the creators have little or no understanding of science at all! Seeing Jimmy Neutron (who is a rather arrogant little prick) "Save the Day" by doing some ridiculously wrong scientific feat just drives me up a wall!!!
                    :? Maybe I'm just being picky, but I'd prefer that a show that boasts scientific prowess would actually use accurate scientific knowledge!
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                      lets try and stay on track bobo

                      as for jimmy neutron - i dont think it matters what he does is scientifically possible or not - i mean its just a cartoon - anything can happen, you just seem to be focusing too much on the little details which has ruined the show for you. just laugh at the funny parts and you'll be good
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                        bobbio wrote:
                        how do you retrofools feel about aqua teen hunger force? its on adult swim on cartoon network.
                        I personally don't like that show at all. ^^
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                          I think all the newer cartoons on today are terrible. All the cartoons of days past used to teach kids something. I see what's on TV now and nothing is educational.

                          I think where everything went wrong is when they started importing those crappy cartoons and series' from Japan. Japanese cartoons and shows are all fantansy they teach children nothing! Except that fighting is the only way to go.

                          Someone needs to produce cartoons that are fantasy yet teach todays youth something as well.
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                            retrocop wrote:
                            I think all the newer cartoons on today are terrible. All the cartoons of days past used to teach kids something. I see what's on TV now and nothing is educational.
                            If you want educational, go watch Nick Jr, Noggin, CBS (Sunday morning), PBS, and Disney in the early mornings. That's loaded with "educational programming".

                            Outside of Nick Jr. when I was a kid, I can't think of anything that really "taught" me anything. Other than Sesame Street, Mr. Rogers Neighborhood, and Reading Rainbow (PBS), I can't recall a show that taught much of anything for me outside of being kind and the importance of friendships and doing the right thing or to use your imagination and to go out there and read, but, of course, these types of shows were really aimed at those like 10 and under.

                            Older kids had the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (which I liked ^_^) or He-Man or Voltron, etc. In other words, adventure, fantasy, "Fighting".
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                            I think where everything went wrong is when they started importing those crappy cartoons and series' from Japan.

                            Which has been going on here since the 1960s, mind you. We've had Japanese shows here for many years. From Speed Racer to Astro Boy to Maya the Bee to Voltron to to Hello Kitty to The Lil Bits to Maple Town to The Noozles, etc., it's always been around.
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                            Japanese cartoons and shows are all fantansy they teach children nothing! Except that fighting is the only way to go.
                            Wow, what a way to generalize and categorize all Japanese animated shows as "fantasy" and "fighting". Apparently, that's what's in for these kids now a days. I also don't appreciate your saying that all shows that come from Japan are centered around fighting and fantasy. There are lots of different genres of shows there, just seems the kids now are really into the fantasy and such. It's just that the more drama-oriented ones, or the ones that may deal with a person's everyday life, wouldn't interest little kids much.

                            I can think of a drama/comedy that has quite a bit of good morals to it, but I doubt a really young kid'd be interested in it, given the nature of the show. Fruits Basket, which is about a 16-year-old girl, who has just recently lost her mother in a car accident, and is determined to finish High School and support herself, and for a while, she was actually homeless.

                            Another show that comes to mind is Detective Conan, known here as Case Closed, with that show, the viewers have to actually deduct and deduce to try and solve the case of the crime that was committed. It gets the viewers involved, but that's another show where I couldn't see younger kids actually being entertained by it. The more "realistic" shows are the ones that the teens and adults tend to watch, not the little kids. I'm thinking about myself as a child, and I'm very sure that shows like Detective Conan or Fruits Basket would've bored me to death.

                            Oh, and might I remind you, Japan has a very very very high educational standard, and I doubt their kids are turning out as idiots, just like the kids here aren't.

                            And by your statement, you're pretty much saying that we Americans should have their children learn through the television when it's the parents' jobs to teach them and aid them. In other words, you want the television to be the babysitter.

                            I personally always found animated shows to be a form of entertainment, and that's what these shows are doing, apparently, entertaining our young ones.

                            For older kids, I doubt they want to worry about educational shows since they're stuck studying and testing a whole lot more than Elementary kids are.

                            I'm not sure about shows like Yu-gi-oh or Duel Monsters/Masters? (I think that's the name) and some of these other shows being currently shown since I'm not really into them, but more than likely, they have some kind of a moral, and most shows like that probably have morals dealing with friendships.
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                            Someone needs to produce cartoons that are fantasy yet teach todays youth something as well.
                            And I disagree with that, somewhat, since there's already a good amount of shows for younger kids for education.
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                              Wow that's a rather long winded and very detailed opinion for being about a single lined statement! Although i have to disagree on the notion that kids don't need to have the shows that they watch be educational. Not that I sould have all kids shows be solely for education, entertainment is a very important factor. But lets pretend that kids actually remember what happens in these cartoon shows. I personally think that it would be better to show realistic reactions to the situations presented. The idea that fights are slow enough for you to analyze or talk about strategy is rediculous. Or that fighting is common place. Or that when you get mad that aoutomatically makes you stronger. I don't know why anime always over analyzes really superficial sircumstances, but when it slows down the pace of a story to a crawl and only talks about the blatently obvious it gets old fast.

                              I don't believe that TV should replace real people when it comes to education. But I do believe that if a story involves anything that can apply to real life then it should be accurate in it's presentation. Given that shows that are "toony", like spongebob, Luny Tunes, and Ed, Edd and Eddy, exaggerate the physical science of collisions and injuries which makes it funny. For these education really doesn't apply, because the emphasis on slapstick comedy is the shows strength. This kind of show isn't in a remotely close to real world and therefore cannot be confused with real situations.

                              Bottom line is I just think that shows based in a realistic world that we can relate to should be accurate in their demonstration of how things work, and be realistic with relations to people.

                              SSJ Jup81 wrote:
                              Another show that comes to mind is Detective Conan, known here as Case Closed, with that show, the viewers have to actually deduct and deduce to try and solve the case of the crime that was committed. It gets the viewers involved, but that's another show where I couldn't see younger kids actually being entertained by it.


                              Very true. Younger kids on average won't be interested in murder mysteries. But I did like this show.
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                                yu-gi-oh, mega man, digimon, pokemon are not cartoons they happen to be Anime's.. I know it dosent seem like a big difference but it kinda is... I for one love pokemon, i use to collect the cards when they came to america.. As for the other shows Eh i kinda agree with ya.. :wink:
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                                  saygen wrote:
                                  yu-gi-oh, mega man, digimon, pokemon are not cartoons they happen to be Anime's.. I know it dosent seem like a big difference but it kinda is...
                                  By Japan's definition, they're "cartoons". Anime = their word for cartoon. :P

                                  I know, I know...we only use that word to differentiate between shows that are American Animated and Japanese Animated, but I just like to mention it anyway. :oops:
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                                    Anonymous wrote:
                                    To add my .02 in to this. I personally like Megas XLR. Whoever created this show i swear must frequent this site. Almost every episode is some type of Homage` be it in site gag or plot point from the 70'5 to the 90's.

                                    and who dosen't dig giant robots?


                                    That's right! :shock: I forgot, Megas XLR is actually pretty cool new show. 8)

                                    Sorta like Justice League and Batman Beyond.
                                    :? Although, this REALLY new Batman looks pretty stupid. But I havn't seen too much of it yet so don't take my word for it.
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                                      I guess so. :?
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                                        Anonymous wrote:
                                        The Batman= Or the Jackie Batman Adventures.........


                                        :shock: WHAT!?!?!

                                        There are Jackie Chan Batman adventures now?! They can't be serious!


                                        P.S. I did mean "The Batman".
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                                          teen titans is actually a good new show. . .even though it lead to the world's worst pop music band's own cartoon show. that is a STUPID show. . .(hihi puffy ami yumi)
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