My gripes with the 1990's

People tend to forget that the 90's were more nostalgic for the decades before then.

The Inspirations of the 90's

The 90's... what can be said about them? Culturally, they had Super Soakers, Sonic the Hedgehog, and the Gameboy. All of the aforementioned were born and more important to the very early 90's (mid '89-1992). Those inventions did last well into the 1990's. How could they not? When one thinks about the Gameboy, they do not see the Gameboy Pocket. The Clinton times were strange to those of us over the age of seven. The 90's were more nostalgic for other periods than those decades were for the ones before then. The Furby reminded us all of Gizmo in 1998. The Beanie Babies reminded the children of the 70's of the bean bag chair. This Robot Chicken sketches sums up the beliefs that most held regarding the new ideas of the time:





The cartoons and shows of '93 to '01 were, in some ways, a little better than what is around today. They were the very definition of postmodernism to those who saw the 70's, 80's and very early 90's. First, let's look at some of the more "successful" works of those times. I'm sure many will recognize at least one character that they are familiar with. If not, then at least you have some idea as to why they never made it. The first inspired release is one that may shock children of the 90's.



Boy Meets World

All great things must come to an end. In the spring of '93, the American television comedy-drama The Wonder Years was cancelled. The finale angered many Americans at the time. It did not end too well. Most people did not like that the father, Jack Arnold, died of a heart attack in 1975. People really felt that the series was a waste of time after Winnie and Kevin did not tie the knot. ABC noticed that the late 80's early 90's belonged to Fred Savage. He was a likable guy with a nice smile. In fact, the whole cast of The Wonder Years made Americans patriotic for a hot second. In 1990, lots of people wanted to live the 60's. Girls began straightening their hair as a response to Winnie Cooper. So, a big problem came to ABC in the spring of 1993.

The people behind ABC looked to the times for help. There was a lot of optimism in the air during the spring of '93. A Democrat was elected after all of those years of watching Republicans get the vote. The people at ABC figured that there needed to be a voice for the next generation. In short, there needed to be a Kevin Arnold for the 90's. So, in the fall of '93, Boy Meets World aired as part of the network's TGIF. Those born before 1987 may have had a problem with that decision. This show was on during the time most TGIF shows had jumped the shark. That may be what made Boy Meets World a stronger selection for the rest of Friday night. People of the 90's figured that nothing else was on, so why not.

I am not trying to start a war here, but Boy Meets World was never thought of as pop culture. It was a b-rate version of The Wonder Years at best. The show went through so many changes before it went off the air. It never found its identity in the process. The show, also, never quite fit in the rest of the TGIF line-up. Children of the 60's, 70's, 80's and early 90's never cared for it like they did The Wonder Years. Boy Meets World basically appealed to the children of the 90's. Besides, Cory Matthews never had a memorable clothing article like Kevin Arnold. Kevin Arnold was never as whiny as Cory was either. That brings me to my next inspired piece of work...




Assorted Characters of Cartoon Network

Late '92 was the perfect time for new American cable television networks to be launched. They were all special that many of us still look at them today. Cartoon Network (new in '92) was originally a library full of all of the Hanna-Barbera classics. This network brought many Hanna-Barbera fans to tears. It was perfect for its time. Nothing stays the same ever. Children of the 90's wanted a set of cartoons to define them. The people behind Cartoon Network found people to create those new cartoons. They even tried the Nickelodeon routine by running to a foreign nation. The idea for Ed, Edd n Eddy was thought up in Canada. Naturally, the animators behind Cartoon Network looked to the pop culture existent in the very early 90's and before. They drew in every event of the 1990's to shape their toons.

By 1999, America was very nostalgic for the late 70's. The pop culture from then was not as well respected as that of the 1960's. Creators still knew that Scooby Doo worked once, he could work again. Hey, the idea of a dog driving away all of our fears is a pretty brilliant idea. It took just seconds to shrink Scooby Doo and color him purple. That sure worked for the creators of 2 Stupid Dogs. Take an overweight cat and make him a big dog instead. Better yet, it seemed to work when Fido Dido became buffer and more egotistical than usual. Most of the young people around me enjoyed Johnny Bravo. This idea appears to work in more ways than one. It even works to this day with Regular Show. Everyone already knows about Cow and Chicken, so there is no need to open up about that one.



CatDog/ Pinky and the Brain

Ren and Stimpy did a lot for the 1990's. It ushered in a new era. Toy commercials were pretty much gone when Ren and Stimpy merchandise was everywhere in 1993. People realized that it had a two guy formula that worked. Cats and dogs are usually make good friends to the many members of our society, right? So why not link these two wonderful mammals together? Ren and Stimpy were gone by that point anyway. CatDog did not do as well as the mid-decade replacements for Ren and Stimpy. Pinky and the Brain, surprisingly, did much better. Who knew that taking Ren Hoek and making him an evil genius in the form of a mouse would work?




Rocko and those Real Monsters

Ren and Stimpy were not the only Nicktoons that had made it. All three of the Nicktoons from 1991 were successful. By the end of the decade, children of the 1990's had Doug Funnie, Angelica Pickles, and Stimpy in doll form. I have even heard some adults claim that they thought children of the 1990's would have it best. After all there were twenty somethings in 1992 who enjoyed Ren and Stimpy. This only lead to the over-saturation of Nicktoons on Nickelodeon. All That (cough,cough You Can't Do That On Television) did not help matters any. The "new" Nicktoons reminded a lot of old-schoolers of the originals. Rocko of Rocko's Modern Life was not much different from Doug. I do not even remember much about the real monsters. They went on adventures and such, but that was it. Ickis was the small leader, just like Tommy. Krumm was the shy one of the bunch, like Chucky. Oblina had stripes on her torso, just like Phil and Lil. I guess Klasky Csupo wanted a break from developing the Rugrats. If my memory serves me right, Nickelodeon very quickly tried to cash in on the arrival of those characters. Unlike the merchandise for the Rugrats, the Ahh...Real Monsters stuff went nowhere. If you were to look hard enough, you might even still find some of it at a stationery store.



Those Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers

You say Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers, I say Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. We can all guess which name came first. I do like the designs for Kyōryū Sentai Zyurange, but that is it. I did not like when this project was passed off to Americans as a new show in 1993. As an American, without the internet, this seemed like a rip-off of Voltron at the time. The name of this production insulted my intelligence. If these rangers were so mighty, then why did they need a Megazord? Why didn't the rangers just use their Megazord right away? Children of the 90's were going nuts for these things in '94. Why? Every episode was the same pretty much. I have come to the conclusion that the Power Rangers are only still around today because parents are familiar with them. And to top it off, were there any actual teenagers on this show? David Yost (Billy) looked slightly older than even Luke Perry at the time. I guess he was the Andrea of the group.



Videogames of the 1990's

"For everything there is a season". In the Clinton 1990's, this saying meant so much to "inventors". For every Sonic the Hedgehog there had to be a Spyro, Earthworm Jim, and Rayman. I guess I did not expect much from the times that brought us Waterworld and Die Hard: With a Vengeance. Even the video games before then were ruined in Clinton times. I know places that still sell Super Mario Bros. movie trading cards. These places have boxes of them in the back. I did not care for that movie at the time because my interest was in Sonic the Hedgehog 2. That 1992 videogame gave Sonic his own sidekick. Tails stayed by Sonic's side through thick and thin in that game. This was progression in the video game universe! The Clinton days soon got to Sonic too. Was anything safe then? MC Hammer even went broke in '96. The 1990's were supposed to be his decade.

I never understood the fascination with Pokemon. I guess I realized that Nintendo did not mind going down the Nickelodeon path. Kirby was the first Gameboy character of its kind. Kirby did not even have the chance to grasp the success the Super Mario Brothers received. Pokemon reminded me of too much in 1998. Only children of the late 80's/ early 90's (hybrid children) will understand how Pokemon was a rip-off of the Battle Beasts toys. Did Nintendo designers even try in mid 90's? I was leap years ahead of the children of the 1990's.




The Animaniacs and Teletubbies

I do not have much to say about Tiny Toon Adventures or Barney the Dinosaur. Oh wait...
These are the Animaniacs and the Teletubbies! What exactly were the Animaniacs and
Teletubbies? I suddenly just realized I had nothing at all to say about Buster, Babs, Barney, or Baby Bop.




Fads of the 1990's

Look at that packaging... it's exttrrrrreeeeeeemmme, man! After the Transformers, after the Nintendo Entertainment System, after the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, why did children of the 1990's even want these? The popularity made no sense at all back in early '95. It was as if children of the 1990's wanted their own versions of marbles. What are pogs even known for? I know pogs did not do for man what the Rubix Cube did. The children of the 1990's never collected pogs, but played with them. Why were the Clinton days so childish? The 1980's and early 1990's spoke to mainly teenagers and children. There were plenty of new singles by Donna Summer, Neil Young, and the Rolling Stones in that time-frame too. The Clinton 90's only made the children happy. That could be the reason not many remember them. There is the probability floating around that no one wants to remember them also.



The Slang that Defined the Times Best

The Clinton Nineties were the times where anything went. Not many seemed to care about much any more. Loads of people had sarcastic remarks and a sense of angst in them. Again, those times were not pleasing to many people over the age of seven. Everyone seemed to notice in 1994 that not much was going on. I knew even then that Jurassic Park coming to theaters was the only major event of 1993. The Jurassic Park movie was a book adaption. Everything seemed dead in 1994. The idea behind cartoons were dead. The music was dead to many Americans. The many men and women that would have changed the face of music were gone. Movies like lWaterworld and the Wild Wild West were in theaters. The WB Network was created. The WB tried so hard to be like the FOX Network. Who were they trying to fool? Kids WB? Look at the FOX Network promotions of 1987 to 1992. Compare those to the WB promotions of 1995 to 2005. The big revamps the 1990's were "buzzkill" too. Who remembers the Woodstock of '94 and '99? I am sad just thinking about those seven long years when Clinton was in office. Well, it is all over now, so... whatever.




The "Goods" of the 1990's

What do these things all have in common? Oh, one of these things is not like the other? I never noticed that. How could this happen to the state of toys? Just the other day, I saw a Kenner Gargoyles action figure at my TJ Maxx. I looked at it and then I stared at an Iron Man 2 action figure. I did not see a difference between these two products, at all. The toy packaging of the mid/late 1990's was in Homer Simpson's words, meh. After the Transformers, after the Boglins, after the Food Fighters, after the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, this is what was in stores. That is plain ridiculous to me. I guess video games were meant to be supreme in the 21st Century. That is that.




The lack of Criticism and Consciousness in the Clinton Days

Anything went. Before 1993, everyone teased everyone else. Children of the 1970's told the children of the 1980's that they did not like the Michael Jackson of '83. The children of the 1980's told the hybrid children (those who experienced the late 80's early 90's) that they did not like the Michael Jackson of '87 to '92. When Michael Jackson was thought of as a child molester, only some people called others out on the acceptance of this allegation. Instead, everyone, but the children of the 1990's, remained nostalgic for Michael's better days. Some truly horrible events popped up in the 1990's.

It seemed like with each passing day, things only got worst by the minute. With that said, the "sex craze" of 1999 was unbelievable at the time. What did parents believe Britney Spears was saying with the song, Hit Me Baby One More Time? Were they completely unaware of the fact that middle school students were sneaking into theater rooms to see American Beauty and American Pie? I guess it just slipped. Both of those movies were receiving great reviews. Why? Some people of those times just did not care at all. The internet has only made things worst since then.


The End

The Clinton 1990's will probably be remembered for nothing more than the Internet. People were not doing much during that time that they cannot do today. Most children of the 1990's will say they watched reruns of Saved by the Bell back then. People still do that at this very moment. It was far more interesting to watch Saved by the Bell on Saturday mornings on NBC. People, back in 1992, got to hear what others generally thought about. Yes, people were expressing their emotions for Kelly then. Humanity is not too far removed from the mid/late 90's into the early 2000's. The economy was better, but that is it. Children of the 1990's may say they had the Nintendo 64, but it is just "Nintendo" to those born before them.
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    randomuser2349 Posted 3 months 19 days ago
    The Clinton 90's DID have:

    Hong Kong being transferred back to China
    Rwanda and Srebrenica Genocide
    Death of Princess Diana
    NATO Bombing of Serbia
    daash Posted 3 months 20 days ago
    I really don't see how you've had this many articles published. After a few tries, I still could not get through your article from beginning to end. What gets me, is that you probably did live through the times you are talking about. But you make it seem utterly flat and unbelievable, almost like you are an alien reporting on it.
    MadMacks Posted 3 months 20 days ago
    I gotta admit, I don't even read your articles anymore. Just look at the pictures and videos. Try telling a story about all this stuff, it just reads like a high school essay. That StreetSharks robot chicken episode was pretty funny, however.
    Khan Posted 3 months 20 days ago
    Uhhhhh yeah. Beanie Babies didn't remind ANYONE of bean bag chairs. That's like saying "Boy Meets World" reminded people of the the world.
    MrCleveland Posted 3 months 21 days ago
    Though i'm NOT a Clinton fan...the 90's for the most part WAS my childhood! Sonic the Hedgehog dominated the video game kingdom, Nickelodeon was at its Orange Age, the Beatles were back on the charts (With the help of the 90's 5th Beatle Jeff Lynne...who's part of ELO), and we DID dance the Macarena from a Flamenco band!

    So the 90's DID have some identity...even though 1997 was tragic. I had a sucky year and so did England's Royal Family.

    Don't fret...this article could be worse....
    comicfan85 Posted 3 months 21 days ago
    Who is the guy you are equating to Johnny Bravo?
    Robert Long Posted 3 months 20 days ago
    Oh good, I'm not the only one.
    Bilfy Posted 3 months 15 days ago
    It's Fido Dido, an advertising character that has been used on a variety of products, including Slice and/or 7up (depending on the location). Equating him to Johnny Bravo is a pretty big stretch, IMO. I'm just not seeing it, aside from the character ostensibly being "cool".
    The Ronin Identity Posted 3 months 21 days ago
    I gave a thumbs up but I totally disagree with most of your opinions, The mid to late 90's was a great time I was 10 - 16 during this time (born in 83) and some things I loved were Hip Hop (at it's peak in the mid to late 90's with WuTang, Mobb Deep, DMX, Nas, Bone Thugs and many more all having classic releases) Sony Playstation (Great system with classic games I still like to play such as Resident Evil 1 and 2, FF7, Xenogears, and many more) Great Sports Icons like Michael Jordan in his prime, a still productive Wayne Gretzky and Mario Lemeiux, as well as the beginnings of the UFC, Wrestling was fantastic with the monday night wars and NWO, some of my favorite movies came out around this time like The Fugitive and TV was not all bad I liked a lot of the shows you mentioned, and adult cartoons like The simpsons and my personal favorite South Park rose to prominence during the mid to late 90's.
    Deleted Posted 3 months 21 days ago
    Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I have no gripes at all about South Park or Beavis and Butthead. Those shows still hold up.
    WoWAddict Posted 3 months 22 days ago
    The 90's really didn't have much of an impact on society, or the country for that matter, in terms of what the 70's and the 80's had done to American culture. There were things that were complete, and blatant rip-offs of other franchises, or they were absolutely terrible things created for sole purpose of making a quick buck or to cash in on something semi-popular. The music was good, but could've been better if the radio waves weren't saturated with pop music from Europe. Video games suffered from the lack of originality because of the reason I stated above and also because gaming was still a niche thing; not mainstream like it is today. What you've stated in this article is partly true, but it's lacking in information, and you need to have your facts straight before you make enemies in this community.
    WoWAddict Posted 3 months 22 days ago
    The US brought over things like Power Rangers because it was something along the lines TMNT that kids liked (Saban wanted to cash in on group-based superhero shows). Nintendo didn't make Pokémon just to make it sell to kids here in the states. It was something that got big in Japan that everyone enjoyed and knew, so they took a risk and brought it here to see if it would have the same impact. As far as the merchandising that went along with the series, the games were meant to sell. If you were a big Nintendo fan in the day (you obviously weren't since you brought up that all you cared about was Sonic 2), you'd think it was something that was worth blowing money on. Now, with that said, when it comes to the lack of consciousness or criticism in the 90's, Michael Jackson may have been bad for the allegations of child molestation against him, not everything was bad about him. His music will always be some of the best stuff that has hit the airwaves, ever.
    WoWAddict Posted 3 months 22 days ago
    People became more open-minded and creative during that decade, as well. You did mention that most of our presidents up until Clinton were republicans, did you not? There's a word that's synonymous with republican. Conservative. That's why some people didn't care, because they weren't conforming to what society expected from them anymore. Grunge music, along with ripped jeans and flannel are a perfect example of this. What I don't understand is what "truly horrible events popped up"? You fail to fill in the blanks there. As for shows that Nickelodeon was airing and why we like them, here are a couple good articles about why we remember them and the impact they had on us: "http://www.retrojunk.com/content/article/9521/index/","http://www.retrojunk.com/content/article/8363/index/".
    WoWAddict Posted 3 months 22 days ago
    So basically what all this boils down to, is that the 90's matter to the people that had exceptional childhoods; filled with fond memories of their halcyon days. Be it with family members or friends, school, whatever it may be. Just because you don't remember them well, doesn't mean the rest of us don't.
    Deleted Posted 3 months 22 days ago
    http://80s.driko.org/90s_suck.html

    I would have to remember them well to discuss them.
    Deleted Posted 3 months 22 days ago
    Thank you for the links. I admit that there were a few holes in my article. The 1993 World Trade Center bombing was what I apparently left out.
    Deleted Posted 3 months 22 days ago
    I love Michael's singles too. I did not like hearing that the King of pop was "Wacko Jacko" at all. That was horrible. Most of the Pokemon reminded me of Kirby. Kirby came to Game Boy screens first. I like Nintendo and Sega. Sonic 2 blew away all competition at the time.
    Deleted Posted 3 months 22 days ago
    Exactly. There were so many blatant rip-offs back then. I am sorry that it is lacking in information. I was just trying to list some gripes I had with these times. Those who were offended did not have to read this article.
    Orangejuice90s Posted 3 months 22 days ago
    Your comment is almost as backwards as the article. You say the 90s had rip-offs but you'd be hard pressed to say that the 80s or even the 70s didn't have rip-offs of their own from the 50s and 60s. Besides, some of these so-called rip-offs aren't even rip-offs at all. Pokemon is an original of its kind. Rather, I've suspected for years that Digimon was a rip-off of Pokemon. At least in terms of variety, the 90s was probably the best decade. The charts had Grunge alongside Europop and teenagers alongside grandparents. You possibly underrate a lot of the music of the 90s too. Some people may be surprised to realize just how meaningful the verses of MMMbop by Hanson are or the fact that they wrote their own songs. Video games did not suffer, in fact PlayStation was explosively popular in the late 90s. Maybe you need to get some facts straight as well.
    WoWAddict Posted 3 months 22 days ago
    I know next to nothing about the 70's and I only know a little bit about the 80's because of my parents. I was not criticizing those decades at all. I'd rather base my opinion off of what I know rather than go off nothing.
    Deleted Posted 3 months 22 days ago
    There were more animated spin-offs in the 1980's. You had the ALF and Punky Brewster cartoons playing off the popularity of the titular characters. Those cartoons never made up the majority. The mid 1980's pop culturally had Rainbow Brite, the Transformers, and My Little Pony representing those times. Digimon was somewhat unique for the time. I believe that Digimon is a rip-off of Pokemon also. I guess Kirby was just the first Nintendo monster. So, when I see Pikachu use his thunderbolt action, I think of Kirby sucking in his enemy. I realize that the Spice Girls and Hanson were around, but I was angered by the label given to Michael Jackson by then. PlayStation is still popular today, but it is in its third incarnation now.
    WoWAddict Posted 3 months 22 days ago
    I also meant to say that I mean video games in general. Not all of them were terrible, I meant the obvious ones like Aero the Acrobat were bad.
    CaramelMan Posted 3 months 22 days ago
    Ever heard of coincedences? If I wear an orange shirt and see someone in town wearing an orange shirt, does that mean one of us copied the other?
    Deleted Posted 3 months 22 days ago
    Yes, I have heard of them. I suppose there is nothing wrong with trying to find repeated success.
    Orangejuice90s Posted 3 months 22 days ago
    Not at all, but that doesn't mean they copied.
    daash Posted 3 months 22 days ago
    I'm opting to not rate this. Mostly because it's nearly indistinguishable from your other 90's articles. You give us all these wonderful references to the times, but I have a hard time believing you were actually there and living. And yeah, you are making all these wild assumptions based off public opinions that seem made up and based off of stereotypes.

    But to give you some constructive criticism. Make it more personal. Instead of just listing things that happened in the 90's, come up with a story about how it related to your life. Most of us know how things were back then, what we are curious about is how you reacted to them back then.
    daash Posted 3 months 22 days ago
    And Boy Meets World was almost exclusively aimed at 90's kids.
    Deleted Posted 3 months 22 days ago
    I know that, thank you.
    Deleted Posted 3 months 22 days ago
    I did not care for much back then. I see the mid 90's as the start of the 21st Century. They had Moviefone and an attempt at bombing the World Trade Center. There was a lot that was not to like about those times. They felt rather dull to me. They could not compete with the late 80's/early 90's at all. Here is someone who agrees with me on this:
    http://exiledonline.com/90-reasons-to-hate-the-1990s-an-exile-classic/
    I am glad to know that I am not alone.
    Orangejuice90s Posted 3 months 22 days ago
    "I did not care for much back then" - is there a chance that you just got older and started growing out of kids things? But then again you commented on real monsters (it's actually Aaahh! Real Monsters for your information) when you "don't remember" certain details.
    Deleted Posted 3 months 22 days ago
    No, most teenagers were still watching MTV and Nickelodeon then. Both channels were new in the 1980's. Many people stuck with those channels as time went on. You are correct, I could I have used the title of the show in that sentence. I simply chose not to do so.
    Deleted Posted 3 months 22 days ago
    Too many mistakes here. There was a lot going on in 1994. From shows, underground music, toys, new trends etc... I feel this missing in your article. 1993-1994 was not part of the 21st century or what came be known as the mid 1990s. It's arguable to say 1994-1995 was the start of the mid 1990s in many respects. The end or latter part of 1994 was the start, which was also based on the accumalation of starting or evolving trends and technology at that time yet it was still rooted in the early 90s vibe and not distinct like 1997-1999. These new trends didn't entirely reflect this year and it wasn't evident at the time. . Secondly what is missing in these articles is the darker side of the 90s, the underground subcultures and so forth. The latter or end of 1998 could been seen as the 21st century based on internet trends and usage, cell phone mainstreamization, strong shift in popular music and movies and fashion that were pretty much synonymous with 2000-early 04 popular trends.
    Deleted Posted 3 months 21 days ago
    How can there be mistakes in one person's gripes? The 90's were the last decade of the 20th century. They were the decade closest to the 2000's. The 2000's had to be set up in advance until their arrival. The Bush years (1989-1992) set up the overall atmosphere of the 1990's before that arrival in '93. When the first World Trade Center bombing occurred in 1993, most had no idea it would happen again. It wasn't until 2002 that most became aware of the transition in the 1990's. Most of my friends see 1993 as a split year. Clinton was president first in 1993. It was the start of the mid-90's pop culturally. The Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers, Beanie Babies, and Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman all belong to mainly the mid-1990's (1993-1996). I remember people making fun of the 1980's and early 90's (the Roxette days) long before 1997. 1995 was year that many teenagers began to get nostalgic for the 1980's. The new 1990's were too touchy feely (think Dave Matthews) and tried to be edgy.
    Orangejuice90s Posted 3 months 22 days ago
    Do you honestly expect to be taken seriously? Aaahh! Real Monsters performed "scares" for class assignments. That doesn't sound like a Rugrats rip-off to me. If anything, Aaahh! Real Monsters might have inspired Monsters Inc. in the early 2000s. As for Pokemon, there were 151 in the original series. With that large number there is bound to be some characters looking similar to other characters. Did trainers of Battle Beasts go to gyms to fight other trainers and did Battle Beasts evolve into other Battle Beasts through elemental stones or experience? What sums up this article best is "I do not even remember much about the real monsters," and "I never understood the fascination with Pokemon". Because you ignorantly make assumptions on what you don't remember and don't understand.
    Deleted Posted 3 months 22 days ago
    Yes, but the real monsters had one sole enemy (similar to Angelica). There was a short, bald-headed leader (like Tommy). I do not remember the Battle Beasts having any trainers. They were part of the awesome Transformers universe. I remember both the Real Monsters and the Pocket monsters, but I do not care for them. I am sorry if I offended you. I was only trying to list some gripes I had with the Nineties.
    Orangejuice90s Posted 3 months 22 days ago
    It doesn't matter if I am offended or not. What matters is that you are mistaken. Pokemon was very original regardless of how you twist it. Like you said, you don't remember Battle Beasts having trainers, Pokemon did so you are hard pressed to say it was a rip-off.
    Deleted Posted 3 months 22 days ago
    The creators of Battle Beasts were the first to use fire, wood, and water for the symbols. I felt as if Pokemon was not original in that regard.
    Orangejuice90s Posted 3 months 22 days ago
    Doesn't Mah-Jong use elements? I think you'll find a lot of games/shows/card games and so forth use elements. Also, Pokemon had about 15 elements back in the 90s, and wood wasn't one of them. Do you finally understand why people RESEARCH things?
    Deleted Posted 3 months 22 days ago
    Yes, it does matter if you were offended. I was not trying offend anyone with this. I just wanted to list my gripes with the 1990's somewhere. They are just my gripes, but I made some broad statements that were too derogatory. I soon realized that Retrojunk was not the place to do so. I just thought someone would agree with me. It turns out that there are many people who love the 1980's AND 1990's.
    daash Posted 3 months 22 days ago
    Dude, chill out. Everyone is getting entirely too worked up about this article. If you've already downvoted it and said something, you should probably move on. This is just getting weird.
    Orangejuice90s Posted 3 months 22 days ago
    What's weird? Calling a spade a spade? No, that's not weird, that's just plain telling it the way it is. The article is filled with false information and I'm just correcting the mistakes - you know, like an honest person would. If you are going to post here, why not either do your research to verify your claims or expect to get flak for false information.
    daash Posted 3 months 22 days ago
    So far, a lot of what has been presented is just opinion with other opinions to back it up. I'm all for posting here, and obviously this article missed a few points. And yes, I weighed in on it too. I voiced my opinion and tried to be constructive with my criticism.
    Orangejuice90s Posted 3 months 22 days ago
    But I haven't really touched on my opinion. For example, when I mentioned that Pokemon originally had 151 Pokemon (Bulbasaur to Mew) that is just a standard fact. When I said the 90s had both Grunge and Europop amongst other genres, that is just a standard fact. I'm correcting mistakes. There is a saying - honesty is the best policy. I'm holding to it.
    Deleted Posted 3 months 21 days ago
    Thank you for the insight, Orangejuice 90s. I welcome constructive criticism from everybody anytime. Honestly, I do not believe in any ages of innocence. The late 80's early 90's were pretty cheesy despite how progressive they were. There is something wrong with every decade. I guess some people do not see it that way. You are correct, it is important to call a spade a spade.

    I love Pixar, and this article angers me a little bit:
    http://www.retrojunk.com/content/article/10407/index/

    Pikachulover let me in on his opinion of late 80's early 90's shows here: http://www.retro-daze.org/site/article/id/59
    1990boy Posted 3 months 22 days ago
    i loved the 90s
    Deleted Posted 3 months 21 days ago
    I miss the 1890's.
    daash Posted 3 months 21 days ago
    the dream of the 90's is alive in Portland
    Deleted Posted 3 months 21 days ago
    Thank you, kind fellow, for that fact.
    daash Posted 3 months 21 days ago
    It's off the show Portlandia.
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