The Great Hyperconcole Wars. Sega vs Nintendo? I always love this one. Remember "Genesis does what Nintendon't?" Nintendo does what Genesis did. You'll see what I mean. In the '80s, there were three worth mention - Atari, Sega, Nintendo. Atari quckly deflated after the great gaming crash of the early '80s, but still, there was Nintendo and Sega. The Master System boasted superior graphics (doubts? just download the emulators and see for yourself), two types of gaming hardware, and a sleek, black and red case. Nintendo boasted third party support, a snazzy automobile trunk-like apperatus for inserting your games, and that ever-satisfying sound of the cartrige being loaded, then pushed down into place. Both systems had a gun. But again, Nintendo had third party support, as well as that little Gyromite robot, and later such accutraments as the Power Glove, and the Power Pad. Nintendo had advertising, licensing, and power.... later super power. The Master System had a nice, sleek black and red case.
Hands down, Nintendo was going to win this battle, and Sega knew it. So, in the late '80s they began R&D for the first 16bit home console. While Sega sat back and waited, Nintendo grew in power, strength, and fanbase. Link, Mario, Samus and Megaman were looked on with as much love as Hulk Hogan and the Ultimate Warrior, but ever present was the beast that was Sega, and in 1990 they struck. "Turbo Blast Processing" it was called, but it was only due to the 486 processor located within the heart of the NEW sleak, red and black case. Complete with a headphone jack and a volume slide knob, the Mega Drive was ready for action. Upon it's release in the states, Sega utilized what it had learned years ago during it's fight with Nintendo; Sega finally marketed this new console to the masses. The Genesis finally arrived. Not one to be outdone by Sega, God, or ayone in it's way, Nintendo had been working on a monster of it's own. Not that it mattered, really, I mean Sega was doing things that Nintendo..... not necessarilly couldn't, but WOULDN'T do. The packaged title with the Genesis featured a half-naked Greek man fighting the dead and demons, to ultmately (after about 8 minutes of gameplay) be rewarded with rescuing the princess who had a really big nose. We're talking Streissand. See? Sega was down with using ugly chicks... that shows real balls.
1991 rolls around with the Super Nintendo. Oddly enough, despite using such a stupid American name for the system, Nintendo also used the word Super in Japan. I'd have named it the "Shin Famicon", or Famicon no something. Yeah. What was realeased with the SNES is what made me buy the damned thing.... the single (in my opinion) greatest Super Mario title of all time. This was followed after a long wait by the (again, my opinion) greatest, and last TRUE Hyrule adventure, A Link to the Past. Now, most of the kids I knew had one or the other. Me? After a summer of working my ass of I bought both. See, I was fat, had no real friends, and girls didn't like me, so I bought video games. Still, most kids had only the Genesis, because despite Nintendo having these great titles, most people "couldn't be bothered" with Ultraman, or Sim City, or F-Zero when they were playing Streets of Rage, Sonic the Hedgehog, Madden '92, or what have you, so they stayed with Sega. Sega was winning this round!
In 1991, there was an arcade game that revolutionized the gaming world. Street Fighter 2 was unlike aything anyone had dealt with before, and through shrewd planning, Nintendo got "sole rights" to the title. This was the first time Nintendo had gone this far to get a title under it's control... It made a deal with Capcom that would ensure the death of the Genesis with one game, and both Sega an Capcom felt it. Those who didn't have a SNES begged, borrowed and stole to get one, and SNES sales skyrocketed. Genesis sales went nowhere. Until, that is, when it was announced in 1992 that Capcom had found a loophole in it's Nintendo contract, and announced a Genesis release of "Street Fighter 2: Special Champion Edition." Now, it was Sega's turn. Most of us were tired of stacking a Game Genie with an Action Replay just to use glitched, disfigured versions of the SF2 boss characters on the SNES, so Genesis sales increased, again. Wolfenstein comes out for the SNES. No blood, and the dogs have been turned into giant mutant rats, and they lose ID software. Skipping a lot of things, let's move to the first Mortal Monday. Snes. NO blood. Huhh. People were realizing the lack of balls in the Nintendo office, while also noticing the vast amount of blood on the Genesis version. Strike one. Square also grows weary of Nintendo's marketplace warmongering. Foul ball. Nintendo is working with Sony to develop something to compete with Sega's CD console adapter. Attrocious to look at today (and, does anybody really know who shot Johnny Rock?) the Sega CD was top of the line, and scared people because it was new, expensive, and CD. You ever wonder what that little port in the underside of your SNES was for? A project that was later called the Playstation. Nintendo succeeded in driving Sony away. Strike two. Sega would later release the 32X, much to the glee of boys (especially fat ones like me) who had no women to look at and let the VCR record Showtime while we slept at nite so that the next day we might see some boob. Okay, maybe that was a little much. Anyway, while Sega was trying to "improve" it's existing console (a little thing I like to call 'Genesis evolution'.... try finding another sentance with those two words so close together), Nintendo released the Superscope. And then, to combat Sega's ad campaign, Nintendo turned to untrue grunge music, twill beanie-wearing greasy stoner chicks (you know they didn't shave ANYWHERE), twacked out, scwany unattractive skateboarders, and other representatives of a Geration X I kow I didn't belong to. Nintendo relied on Star Fox, a remake of Punch Out!!! and the long-forgotten Donky Kong to keep it going. Fortunately DooM ad Mortal Kombat had blood, so Nintendo it seemed was finally coming around. A little too late, though.
It looked like Nintendo had won yet again, as Sega ran out of peripherals to not support. Sega does what Nintendid. Think about it - How may games were developed, released and sold for the the little Gyromite robot, or the Zapper, or the Power Pad, or the Power Glove (and actually worked with the damned thing) and the Superscope? About as many as were made for the 32X. If memory serves, only 13 titles bore the 32X logo. These two titans were so busy fighting eachother, they never paid attention to Phillips, or the beast from their past, Atari. Now understand, the CD-i was like the 3DO was like the Jaguar. Under normal circumstances, these consoles would never have seen the light of day, due to their heafty pricetags, lack of quality games, and fear that the Jag controller would set off a nuke, somewhere. But with Sega welcoming you to the next level, doing what Nintendon't, bragging about "turbo-blast processing" (which was nothing, really... think about it - do you actually believe Sonic moved that fast because of the time it took to load a stage?) Nintendo was reassuring it's base that now we were playing with power... super power, and asking, "Why go to the next level, when you can go lightyears beyond?" During this Mario vs Sonic bitch fight, the rest of us watching Beavis and Butt-Head were wondering during commercial breaks, "I wonder how good Burn Cycle really is"
1995/96.that area. The Genesis is dead. Did Nintendo kill it? Nope, it was Sega. The Saturn has been released, and nobody cared. Sega does what Nintendid, only Nintendo never let their contraptions exceed $200, only to be abandoned by it's makers. Well, I'm not sure how expensive the Virtual Boy was..... that thing looked to dangerous to buy, though. Sega, however flooded the market with Genesis modifiers, only to abandon them in favor of more R&D on newer technologies. People did buy the Saturn though and they even liked it, but they felt betrayed by Sega. For almost six years, Sega loyalist emptied their collective pockets to buy the newest Genesis goody, only to feel dejected by the company months after purchase. The SNES was still gowing strong, and Nintendo was working on their next big console. Let's move ahead, shall we?
Remember that company that Nintendo pissed off? No, not Id, they made up. No, not Square, the fathers of Final Fantasy still had nowhere else to go. Say it out loud..... SONY! It's now 1997, and Nintendo's about to be bitch slapped. Enter the Sony Playstation (PSX for the gaming cool). The PSX (yes, I am the gaming cool) single-handedly changed the way things were done. Better graphics, true digital sound, true 3D processing, and an open door policy to third party manufacturers. NOW Square had a place to go. And, so did Capcom, for that matter. When you lose the company that saved your ass in 1991, you know you're in trouble, and Nintendo rushed to keep up with this new monolith. Their answer was the Nintendo 64. What an answer it was.... a, uh.... well.... it was..... it was a cartrige system. Huh. I miss somethin', here? Even Sega knew cartriges were obsolete. Not Nintendo, though, NO! And commanding their new flagship was? Mario. Well, I guess if something works for twenty years, why change it, right? And then, though they were epic, the new Zelda games were released. They had nothing to do with Zelda. I actually found all twenty heart containers in A Link To the Past, still play the second quest on the original Zelda, and learn the downwards thrust BEFORE fighting that horse-head boss dude in the Adventure of Link. I know my Zelda.These new titles were Hyrule for the sake of sales. Ocarina of Time is still probably the only reason to own a 64, tough I do think it's funny that the only other games that really shine are both (again) rehashes. Mario Kart 64 was fun, as was Smash Brothers. Four franchises based on twenty years of use. That's all it really had Sad. Well, my Girlfriend really liked Turok, though I don't know why..... it was just as bad as "Charles Barley's Shut Up and Jam"
Now, with the loss of true support, Nintendo was hurting, but still not as bad as Sega.... this is where Sega made it's fatal mistake. Had they waited and released this console instead of the Saturn, I think that today we would have a four-way battle in the console gaming world. Alas, Sega decided to bombard the marketplace with too many consoles, in too short a time. Now comes the days of the Dreamcast, arguably the best console ever created up to that point(and I happen to argue in favor of the statement). The Dreamcast was the first true 128bit system. A real step in the right direction, the Dreamcast offered true onlie play via a modem, boasted crisper, clearer graphics than the PSX, had those fantastically Japanese titles (Chu Chu Rocket? Hell yeah!), was Windows-based, and offered USB support. Not to mention all the things you can do to a Dreamcast, but there's forums for that. Here was a twist for Nintendo.... Capcom was releasing titles on the PSX and the Dreamcast, and NOT the 64. Final Fantasy was a PSX exclusive, and would remain a Sony exlusivefor years. Eidos worked with Sony and Sega, bringing the Tomb Raider and Legacy of Kain series to everyone but Nintendo. I imagine that after nearly twenty-five years of gaming godliness, Nintendo was feeling the urge to go back to making Pokeman-like card games. Something was wrong, though. In it's desire to beat it's oldest foe, Sega had done itself in. Young and fresh was the Playstation, and most gamers denied Sega it's profits for fear that the demigod would again abandon it's current console in favor of a new one. This is the critical point where Sega decides what to do next - it decides to phase out of the console building market. They had in their possession a system that would have carried Sega into the next millenium, but due to Nintindo-like barbarism and short-sightedness, Sega had slit the Dreamcast's throat. The greatest console at the time to date died due to the poor planning of it's parents. Nintendo had won by default, though it's battle wasn't over, yet. Again, let's move ahead.
Here, at last, was the PS2. Meaner, stronger, and a little quicker than it's predecessor, and learning from Sega's mistakes, Sony made it backwards-compatible. What made the PS2 so great? The same thing that made Nintendo systems of yore great - third party support. All I need to say is I wasn't going to buy a PS2 until I played a bit of Final Fnatasy X, then it was over. Gand Theft Auto? Sold. Soul Reaver 2? I'm there. Street Fighter Alpha 3? Hell yeah. Nintendo? Who?
November, 2001. Two months prior, the Twin Towers had fallen, the Pentagon had been heavily damaged, and America, for the first time was afraid. Hell of a time to release a system, but the creators of the XBOX didn't care. Moreso than the system itself, which is sad to say, Halo had arrived along with Dead or Alive 3, the triquel to the ever popular PSX and Dreamcast fighting titles. I feel it necessary to mention only those titles, as Nintendo would have never bothered with Halo, and even after all the success with it's Ninja Gaigen franchise on Nintendo systems, (which later moved to the XBOX) Tecmo wouldn't even talk to the fathers of video gaming as we know it. Nintendo was hurting, bad. The 64 had flopped (I don't care what anybody says, the 64 was a failure. You can't make up for poor gaming by showing me profit quotiants, I care about games, not money). The XBOX, ironically enough owes a lot to Sega. Also utilizing a built-in modem, USB compatablilty, and an honest-to-goodness operating system to support it's superior processing power, I have to wonder if somewhere in the XBOX department there isn't a dissected Dreamcast being studied by Microsoft engineers. Nintendo would later release the Gamecube, which was admittedly geared to a younger audience. And a little homosexual. I mean, seriously. The console, controllers, and GUI look like they were created on an un-aired "Surprise by Design" for G4 during E3. It was launched with... yeah. Mario. It has... yeah. Another noting-to-do-with-Link Zelda title. It has... yeah. Another Smash Brothers. It has... more colors than the XBOX. It has.... wait a minute. YEAH! A NEW METROID! OOOHHH..... a great remake of Resident Evil! I guess Capcom Made up with Ninendo? Probaly had something to do with the fact that the former Nintendo Final Boss quit, and a new boss called the shots. Hey, a Final Fantasy on a Nintendo system? Bad. Seems Nintendo might survive this war, after all.
Something about playing a Sega game on the XBOX, or the PS2 , or even the Gamecube makes me smile. Here was a company that didn't break rules, it wrote rules with Nintendo. It would seem that now it's "Sega died but Nintenwon't." But, without Sega, where would we be? There would never have been any true competition, and Nintendo would be our only solution for our home gaming needs. Titles like Halo, Resident Evil, DooM3, the Legacy of Kain series, Fatal Frame, Grand Theft Auto, Silent Hill and a lot of others might never had been made were it not for Sega always being there to remind Nintendo that it's a sissy. Now, Sony and Microsoft have that honor.
Here's the Jerry Springer-esque final thought:
Arguing over Sega vs Nintendo is pointless. Those arguements are the reasons such consoles as the Turbo Grafx 16 never got noticed in America. I mean, seriously. If you've never played Splatterhouse (the first one), Devil's Crush or the TG16 Fantasy Zone, you are missing out. The age-old Sega vs Nintendo debate is as idiotic as the timeless Chevy vs Ford debate. I was a mechanic for a long time and I can tell you this: they're both peices of crap. And the bottom line is: Games are games. Play them or don't, but if you choose not to, make that choice based on the games, not the console. People on both sides missed good titles because they felt that the "other system" had no good games because they only played Revolution X or Zero Wing.
For those wondering, I own:
NES, SNES, N64, Gamecube, Genesis with the Sega CD and 32X, Dreamcast, Plastation2, XBOX, Turbo Grafx 16
Sega vs Nintendo
Someone told me I should post this as an article, so here goes.
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Comments
segaboy09
Posted 3 years 8 months ago
Mariofan
Posted 4 years 9 months ago
I am a Nintendo fan for life. Nintendo and Sega were the only companies to put imagination and reality escapism into their games. I owned an Nes, SNES, N64, Gamecube, Gameboy, Nintendo Ds, Wii as well as all of the Sega consoles. Sony and Xbox were nothing but army traning devices. I refused to buy them for the fact that their games were too realistic for my likeing. Give me a plumber bashing blocks with his head or a blue hedgehog fighting Dr. Robotnic (NOT EGGMAN) and I'm a happy guy.
SonicRacer
Posted 4 years 11 months ago
The Genesis will always be the best,in my opinion, If SEGA didn't quit early they would have "won" by a landslide.
starfox81
Posted 6 years 4 months ago
and microsoft shoud stick with pc sure the 360 and xbox are selling good but the online play can be a bit confuseing, they were always good with computers
starfox81
Posted 6 years 4 months ago
great article man and by the way my favorite game company is sony but nintendo does have good consles like n64 nes and snes gamecube had good games but not the best consles out there ps the wii does have some cool stuff like virtual consle
Arcee23
Posted 6 years 9 months ago
I was always a Sega fan in my youth, I had a Game Gear, I always wanted a Megadrive but I never got one. I was quite devestated when Sega stopped making consoles, I loved the Dreamcast. I'd hardly ever played a Nintendo console until I was 16.
IronLizard
Posted 7 years 7 months ago
Not a bad article but there are a few galring mistakes. First off the Genesis came out in 1989. Secondly it used a Motorola 68000 and not a 486. It ran circles around the Snes processor the 65816. Sega, Snk, Capcom, Apple, Commodore and many others all used the 68000. This is the chip used to power Street Fighter 2 and the Metal Slug series. Also it wasn't until 1994 when Snes sales fianlly surpassed Genesis sales.
Copper20
Posted 7 years 7 months ago
I have a Megadrive (This came from UK), an SNES, a Gamecube, an XBOX, a Gameboy Advance SP, and a Nintendo DS.
RyogaXvX
Posted 8 years 4 days ago
Great article! First rate all round! I could not have said it better myself! I look foreward to seeing a follow-up part 2 article in the future as the battle continues. Who knows? Sega is not dead yet. They possibly could release a new Console, and add to it much like the genesis, sega cd, and 32x. only this theoretical time, maybe they will learn from thier mistakes. maybe it will work. I dont know about anyone else reading this article. but much like the genesis with its addond, I have been adding on to my PC since I have first owned a PC ;]
mlaheji
Posted 8 years 12 days ago
:'-)
Great Article
Twenty years from now...I wonder how an article about the 360, PS3, and the Wii will be written...
Great Article
Twenty years from now...I wonder how an article about the 360, PS3, and the Wii will be written...
Jake 1079
Posted 8 years 6 months ago
unlike all you sega owners I'm someone who's grown up on the super nintendo,It was basicly the console my whole family grew up on and althrough sega had more action titles one thing the NES had was tones of RPG's,and even the great final fantasy series began it's life with nintendo,there was secret of mana,crono trigger,illusion of gaia,seveth saga,even nintendo's mascot mario had an RPG outing(which is even somthing sega hadnt thought of yet)the only RPG I can think of that sega had is the phantasy star series,you could say my whole family enjoys fine RPG's rather then that blood and guts junk.
pokinsmot
Posted 8 years 6 months ago
i liked Sega more simply because i was sick of hearing about Nintendo... i wanted something different...
LivinLegend85
Posted 8 years 6 months ago
ummm NINTENDO....even though i hate everything about the NINTENDO REVOLUTION...i loved nintendo but i think their new controllers are gonna break the camels back...i mean...they look like dvd controllers...or mattell fishing games...goodbye nintendo....i loved you but you didnt love US back
cap
Posted 8 years 6 months ago
nintendo yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!
i own an atari 2600,nes,supernes,nintendo64,gamecube,dreamcast,
neo-geo(thats right),and 3DO
i own an atari 2600,nes,supernes,nintendo64,gamecube,dreamcast,
neo-geo(thats right),and 3DO
Vanilla_
Posted 8 years 6 months ago
Sega announced that they will be relising golden axe next year. Does anybody know if they will ever again relise home console?
Sega was great. However, The NES version of Street Fighter II was better. So, I ended up spending time with the NES too.
dalmatianlover
Posted 8 years 6 months ago
I don't think the dates are exactly right, but you missed some facts, like the year the NES retired: 1994.
Jake 1079
Posted 8 years 6 months ago
one thing that nintendos always been good at is hand held consoles,even though there homes console aint winning any awards there hand helds like the GBA for example has tons of 3rd party support,even sega had to make there next 2D sonic games for nintendo cause they were doing realy bad with sales and ltes face it there hand held consoles were to expensive not very portable and had very little 3rd party support,what made nintendos game boy so successful was they were always afordable for all ages and have a huge choice of games some complety awful but some awsome ,like GBA Doom witch had the same grafices as the first doom, and remakes of good classics like final fantasy 1 and 2 super mario bros 2 and 3 and metriod,
Vanilla_
Posted 8 years 7 months ago
I think one of the best systems ever made has got to be Sega Genesis. When I play these old retro games I enjoy them more than these new animated games. I had N64, PS1 and 2, Dreamcast, NES but Genesis left a mark. Yes I played Super Nintendo at my best friends house but I didn't enjoy it as much as Sega. Nintendos controller was better than Segas 3 button but not better than 7 buttons, especially when you play MK3, Arcade Wrestlemania and many more. Sega was very popular in Europe and Brazil and it was number 1. The real problem they had is trying to stay 2 steps ahead of competition. That’s what ruined them. I wish Sega makes another console just to see how well it would do against Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo.
crinos43
Posted 8 years 7 months ago
Everytime someone asks me if I'm going to buy the next big system, I always tell them "maybe."
Sure the three new systems coming out (XBOX 360, Revolution, PS3) look cool, but due to the technology inside them, i'd need to go on Millionauire to be able to afford even one of them, and frankly, I cannot just randomly do that.
What owuld be nice is to see systems start much cheaper. Maybe then more people would be able to enjoy the games that are out for them.
Sure the three new systems coming out (XBOX 360, Revolution, PS3) look cool, but due to the technology inside them, i'd need to go on Millionauire to be able to afford even one of them, and frankly, I cannot just randomly do that.
What owuld be nice is to see systems start much cheaper. Maybe then more people would be able to enjoy the games that are out for them.
Allison_SNLKid
Posted 8 years 7 months ago
Mumra, a great article--debates about systems at the video store were legendary. My ex-boss there (I left a year ago) was a gamer w/two children, and she was a great authority on video games. I'm partial to Nintendo, but I love Sonic the Hedgehog (I'm into video game mascots). Also, like Knites said--a picture or two would have done some justice. It's easier on the peepers. I also own a Game Cube--Mario games are my bag, ESPECIALLY Super Smash Bros. Melee!!!!!!!!
millerman1983
Posted 8 years 7 months ago
Wow! Great article. It's refreshing to read something from somebody that obviously has a much more detailed opinion and knowledge of the past... and not to mention in my favorite category: Video Games!
Knites
Posted 8 years 7 months ago
I miss Yars' Revenge for the Atari 2600. Only two levels, but I played it for hours. Games are what makes a system, not the sytem itself. Good article. Still would've liked a pic or two though.
Futureraven
Posted 8 years 7 months ago
Just wanted to add a little comment about Sega killing itself. The week that they announced the end of the Dreamcast was also the first week they had beaten the PS2 in terms of console sales. I can't remember if it was in 1 teritory or worldwide.
Just when there was some hope that they could ride out the bad spell and turn the corner, they quit. Once again trying to be 2 steps too quick and tripping over their own feet.
Just when there was some hope that they could ride out the bad spell and turn the corner, they quit. Once again trying to be 2 steps too quick and tripping over their own feet.
warriorman
Posted 8 years 7 months ago
All I got to say is, I will always be a nintendo fan no matter what happens even if people try to tell me differently. I give this article a 5 star rating, because just by reading this you can tell he or she put alot of time and effort into the research and writting this up just so us loyal retrojunk fans can relive old and great memories of the past. 100% great article dude.
Jake 1079
Posted 8 years 7 months ago
hey vengance athought you may have not liked the zelda series very much there are still alot of us that do and its not always the same dungens and items all the time,in each game there are certain items that are not from the earlyer games like most of the items from the NES version were not in the SNES version,and also its not always the same land of dungens in each,if you've played as many versions of zelda as I have then you'd know that,and also they did try something differant for its secuel zelda 2 on NES it has entierly new gameplay but us fans didnt like it so they keeped the old gameplay that made the series good to begin with,also the gameplay in the four swords on the gamecube is also something new and in majoras mask you had a differant boss at the end,not ganon,so you mind laying off
Lucas2600b
Posted 8 years 7 months ago
I have equal fond memories of both systems, I still own both in my collection and have different memories of both. I loved all the Arcade translations in the early days of the Genesis, and then the SNES took over in this area - Final Fight, Street Fighter 2, Darius Twin, etc. I also loved the fact that the Genesis came back into popularity w/ the first Mortal Kombat. Everyone loved to come over to play the "blood" version of the game, even though that was a trivial point I believe it to be one of the best moves made by SEGA in their final days of supporting the Genesis. Another good move was the Genesis version of "Earthworm Jim" you got an extra level!
Vanilla_
Posted 8 years 7 months ago
I agree with vengeance about the new Nintendo with the weird joystick. That thing looks like remote control and it looks bad. Also it will compete with PS3 because if I am not mistaken they are both coming out in the same year maybe couple of months difference. To me Sega Genesis is the best system of all times. Maybe it was because I was younger back than and enjoyed playing games more, but still even today when I play classics like sonic 2. Streets of Rage 1, 2 and 3 I enjoyed them more than this new animation crap. Sega was very powerful back in the early 90s so it left a mark. I would like to see new console from Sega just to see how well it would succeed today. Great article Mumra.
mrs.link
Posted 8 years 7 months ago
Hey, that was a great article, very informative...but when it comes down to systems, my fav has gotta be the playstations....final fantasy, tomb raider, i mean, they have some of the best games! The only reason i like nintendo is cuz of Zelda...thats why i like it, but we have 20 other titles somewhere. So i am the nintendo/playstation fan
. Great article dude, good job.
nitronicman
Posted 8 years 7 months ago
Good article, but you have forgotten 2 important things:
Rareware (amazing game company)
Handheld consoles, Gamboy versus Gamegear(i think that was sega)
Rareware (amazing game company)
Handheld consoles, Gamboy versus Gamegear(i think that was sega)





















































































