But Seriously...

If you look closer, you'll find that there's more to comedy than you might think.

I'm not necessarily a funny person. I tried writing comedy of various types for many years, but I've found I really don't have a knack for it. On the same tack, I do enjoy a lot of comedy, but the comedy I enjoy tends to be tempered with seriousness. I find that the best comedy tends to have an element of drama to it. That drama can come about in various ways...Sometimes in scripts, sometimes in performance and sometimes in the real lives of the performers. To the best I know how, I'll be exploring all 3 in this article.

To start off with, I would like to talk about the movie "48 HRS".



This was Eddie Murphy's film debut. For many years before this, he was known for doing comedy, from doing stand-up in his teens to being one of the most memorable cast members of the Jean Doumanian/Dick Ebersol era of "Saturday Night Live". This movie, though, was more of a drama than a comedy. Trailers and commercials advertised this as a comedy, with the boogie-woogie of The Bus Boys' "The Boys Are Back In Town" playing alongside clips of Eddie engaging in jokes and tomfoolery.

If one were to see this movie, though, they would see a movie about disturbed individuals. Nick Nolte's character, Jack Cates, is a drunk and distressed cop who tends to screw up whatever case he's involved with. If a man like that is on the good side of the law, imagine what would happen if he was on the bad side? That's how frightening this character can be.

We then come to the case of Reggie Hammond, Eddie's character. He's a very cynical and greedy character, always looking out for his own best interests and damn whoever else might get involved. Of course, I would feel the same way, too, if I had been in his situation.

He's being sprung out of jail to assist Cates in the case of escaped convicts and former Hammond allies Albert Ganz (James Remar) and Billy Bear (Sonny Landham). Ganz and Bear are in pursuit of a large amount of money, and they'll use any means necessary to get it back.



It's up to Cates and Hammond to stop them, Cates because he needs to redeem himself for screwing up an attempt to stop Ganz and Bear earlier and Hammond because he wants the money.

The way that Cates and Hammond interact with each other starts off as shocking, with physical and verbal abuse abounding. What's hyped up as humor in the trailer comes across as rather hard-edge when viewed with the surrounding text in the movie itself. In the end, though, the two make peace with each other. In a way, it's a hopeful piece. If these 2 can get along with each other, even after going through all they go through, then maybe we can, too.

Sometimes, perception can distort the intentions of a movie. To me, that's the case with the first 2 "Lethal Weapon" movies.



Both of these made occasional appearances on Comedy Central back in 2006, and that was rather perplexing, mainly because of the character of Martin Riggs (Mel Gibson).



I think one of the reasons why many people think these are comedies is because of Riggs. They see his wacky behavior, his smiles, his rapid fire tone of voice, and his love of "The Three Stooges", and they think "He's definitely comedy material".

My theory, though, is that he uses these forms of humor as a way to keep his demons at bay. Scarred by his time in Vietnam, he later endured the death of his wife. Those two events, along with others that I don't think could be explained in the amount of time the movie has, have left a mark on him that can never go away.

With my psychologist, I've been learning about avoidance and how it can only make your problems bigger. That's most evidenced in the first movie when we see Riggs mulling the idea of suicide. He looks down at a picture of his wife, and he plays with a gun, putting it in his mouth and to his head. Playing with the gun is his way of avoiding the feelings of his pain. I've been told that if I'm in distress, I should feel the feeling/thought briefly, and then let it go. Riggs isn't ready to do that yet, and the depression only gets to him more and more.

This movie deals with suicide, drugs and the scars of war, and shows all 3 in explicit detail. Despite this, because of Gibson's behavior and a lot of the dialogue in this movie, it gets to be considered a comedy.

Where's the humor in an exchange like this:

Murtaugh: God must hate me, that's what it is.

Riggs: Hate him back! It works for me!

That doesn't sound like a comedic line...It sounds like the cry of a man in anger.

"Lethal Weapon 2" may seem lighter-hearted, but it, too, is quite heavy. After the end of the first movie, Riggs seems to have inched closer to a sense of normalcy, this being stoked on by his love of the striking Rika Van Den Haas (Patsy Kensit).



My article "Mixing It Up" goes into more detail about her character, but she and Riggs hit it off. It seems like he might be able to move on with her, but when she's murdered by members of the South African embassy that she was eager to betray, Riggs falls back into the trap of anger and resentment. The humor disappears from him, and he says to Murtaugh, as he's off to nail the murderers, "I'm not a cop tonight". The results of this are shown in graphic detail, and it hits even closer to home when he finds out that these South Africans are key to the cause of his pain.

Riggs' opporunities are being exhausted at each turn, and the exhaustion is weighing on him as a man. It's disturbing to watch a man being pushed back to the limit that he hoped to escape from. His torment and his anger can hit a nerve with you, but the jokes and smiles are supposed to obscure that. One needs only watch these first 2 movies to understand that beneath the smile, there's a disturbance that lives in each one of us. Some people are just better at hiding it than others.

I would now like to talk about Steve Martin.



Steve Martin has always been a comedically-oriented person. From working as a magician at Disneyland in his teens to writing for the Smothers Brothers in the 60s to doing his own unique form of stand-up and frequently hosting "Saturday Night Live" in the 70s, he was always making people laugh.

His stand-up comedy was always interesting. Sometimes he would wear bunny ears, and other times he would wear an arrow through the head. He always had an interesting series of lines, tackling both sophisticated and unsophisticated matters with a mostly calm voice, but one that could shift into slack-jawed or slimy at any given moment.

This picture illustrates what he was like when doing stand-up:



After bit parts in films like "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" and "The Muppet Movie", his first solo film success was "The Jerk".



His character, Navin R. Johnson, wasn't a jerk. He was just a simple-minded fellow who, to me, seemed a prototype of "Forrest Gump". Johnson is a man of no particular intelligence who ends up accomplishing some great things, even though his family ends up reaping the benefits more than he does. Still, he's a nice guy and he does what he can. He seems rather Gump-like to me.

Anyway, this movie had all sorts of wackiness to it. From nonsense songs to racial gags to slapstick humor, it was hilarious material.

One might've expected him to continue on in this vein, but his next movie was a shocker. It was a piece called "Pennies From Heaven".



This movie was based on a British mini-series by a writer named Dennis Potter. It concerns a sheet music salesman during the Great Depression named Arthur Parker. Martin plays Parker and does a great job in a serious role. He went from playing a dumb but good-hearted man into an intelligent but vindictive and spiteful bastard. If anybody is a jerk, Parker is. He's after only 2 things...Sex and money. He's manipulative, abusive, perverse and disturbed. This has an adverse impact on his wife Joan (Jessica Harper).



(I couldn't find a picture of Harper in the movie, so instead, I found one of her and Martin being interviewed at a screening of the movie)

Joan is distressed by living with Arthur. He always wants action of all sorts while she just wants to have a peaceful existence. He's always trying to get her to do things she doesn't want to do, and I've never been able to figure out why she doesn't want to leave him. It's been a long time since I've seen the movie, but I have the feeling that she's holding onto him despite his treatment because it's the Great Depression and one needs stability, even if one of them is unstable.

Parker is always looking for something better and he doesn't care what he has to do to get it. This is most evidenced when, on one selling excursion, he falls in love with a school teacher named Eileen (Bernadette Peters, who previously co-starred with Martin in "The Jerk").



She's a sweet individual...One who you wouldn't expect to become a deviant. She has a smile for everybody...A pleasant, wholesome demeanor that seems to attract Parker. He views her as his shot at redemption, but Parker corrupts her to the point that she becomes a hooker named Lulu under the aegis of a smooth-talking pimp named Tom (Christopher Walken).



This movie uses irony on an interesting level. In the movie, the characters lip-synch to Depression-era standards of the type that Parker sells. So many of these are often bouncy and occasionally heart-warming tracks that you would expect to hear them in a wacky 30s-oriented comedy. Instead, these songs are used to illustrate the characters' disturbing thoughts...Thoughts of murder and sexual deviancy, thoughts that we try to keep supressed.

Tom is the most obvious example of this. He uses the classic standard "Let's Misbehave" to lure Eileen into his underworld. As he lip-synchs, he struts around the place, dancing up and down and all over, stripping down to his underwear, as if he's saying "This is what you'll be all about". He's disturbing...The whole movie is disturbing, but quite rewarding. It was underestimated back in 1981, and it's still not highly thought of now, but I think it should be required viewing for any 80s movie fan.

It was something totally unexpected from Steve Martin, and the critics didn't particularly care for it. I guess that no one was ready to see him do a dramatic piece. Times have changed, though, and now comedic actors can be taken more seriously in dramatic roles, just like Jim Carrey, who, 17 years after the release of "Pennies From heaven", starred in a movie that took the frivolity of pop culture and used it as a lens into the human psyche. That movie was "The Truman Show".



Carrey is another actor whom nobody expected to do a role like this...Well, that's not necessarily true. He had done several dramatic roles, but those were for TV movies. This was one of Carrey's first serious assignments for the big screen.

In this movie, he plays a man named Truman Burbank, who is unaware that his life is a TV show. It takes him a long time to figure it out, and when he does, he looks to get out. It isn't easy, though.

Due to Carrey's previous big-screen success, many promotional materials advertised this as a comedy. It wasn't really, though. It did have comedic moments, but those moments came out of Truman's dawning awareness. I think the best moment along those lines is when Truman takes his "wife" Meryl (Laura Linney) for a ride around "town".



He's speaking in a jovial manner about traveling, while she just wants to get home. Watching him getting the clue is rather uplifting. He's finally coming into his own.

Uplifting doesn't always equal funny, though. This is a very intelligent study into what's reality and what isn't. Once again, it may seem like an obvious question, but is it? At times, I think things can be unreal.

A good example is this: A few months after my father died, I walked into the house from school one day. I looked over to the side and I could've sworn I saw my dad smiling and waving at me. It couldn't have been an illusion...I recognized him. He seemed flesh-and-blood, but there was no way I could tell. He was gone just like that. Was that reality or fantasy?

That's sort of what Truman was up against. How could anything be this perfect, normal and perfectly normal? There's something going on. Everybody thinks he's the one going crazy, but the craziness is surrounding him.

Carrey performs a serious role quite well. Up to this point, people thought of him as a loud, wacky and toilet-humor-oriented fellow, but this movie proved there was more to him that talking out of his ass. As such, nowadays he mixes up comedic and dramatic roles. He's not as big a star as he was in the 90s, but in a way, I guess that's good. It allows you to explore different avenues of cinematic culture.

Sometimes, comedies can have dramatic sub-plots. To me, that's the case with "Ferris Bueller's Day Off". The dramatic sub-plot comes from the character of Cameron Frye (Alan Ruck).



Frye is an emotionally disturbed young man, and this disturbance stems from his relationship with his father. One gets the impression that Ferris (Matthew Broderick) is like the father he doesn't have.



Ferris gives advice and encouragement to Cameron. While Ferris does say the occasional hard-edged line, he says it because he cares about Cameron. He sees how Cameron is hurting on the inside and he wants to help out. When talking about this movie, several people have hypothesized that the reason why Bueller took the day off wasn't because he wanted to get out of school, but because he wanted to give Cameron some joy and relaxation.

At first, Cameron objects to Ferris taking his fathers' car for their joyride, but it eventually impacts him in a different way. While they're trying to get the mileage back down on the car, Cameron finally snaps and fucking wails on the car. His screaming "YOU DON'T LOVE ME! YOU LOVE A CAR!" is one of the most emotional moments I've seen in an 80s movie. In its' own destructive way, it's a thing of beauty. Cameron is finally taking charge, and even taking responsibility.

Many people view "Ferris Bueller's Day Off" as a wacky comedy...I view it as a humorous character study of two polar opposites. There's something in the duo's friendship that's serious...College will most likely tear their friendship apart, but they'll make the most out of the time they have together. All of us should be lucky enough to have at least one friendship like that in our lives.

To end this article, I would like to talk about Richard Jeni.



Comedy is often used as a coping mechanism for the problems of the world at large, but sometimes, even jokes can't save you from the encroaching darkness. Jeni was one of the most tragic examples of that.

He was a gifted individual both comedically and academically, but beneath all of that, there was a sick soul inside.

The IMDB says: "Following his death, his family later confirmed that Jeni committed suicide, and that Jeni had recently been diagnosed with "severe clinical depression coupled with bouts of insomnia and psychotic paranoia.".

Before all that, one could see it in his comedy routines. One of his most famous bits was a routine about music to listen to when committing suicide. He outlined methods of suicide while singing snatches of songs like "Against All Odds (Take A Look At Me Now)" by Phil Collins and "She's Out Of My Life" by Michael Jackson.



When this bit first came about many years ago, it was a sterling example of dark humor. For me, though, the humor disappeared with Jeni's death and now it's plainly dark.

It frightens me, because I can be funny, but at the same time, I have rages and thoughts you wouldn't believe. With my psychologist's assistance, I'm getting better at dealing with them, but there are still time when I think of grabbing the knife and booking a ticket out of the real world. I always come back, though, knowing that for all the problems I have, I could be much worse off. The sad thing is that some people just can't see past that. Jeni was the saddest example of that, and his work is much missed.

In the end, all comedy is based on darkness. Whether it be fear of the world or a dim outlook at other people, underneath the idea of humor, there is something frightening. It's something that can't easily be put into words, but it's something that's easy to manage for some people and hard to manage for others.

With that, the floor is open for discussions:

What do you think is the basis for humor? Do you like mixing up comedy and drama? Do you think the two should be separate? Do you use humor to cope with the world, or do you use something else? Do you have different examples of how seriousness can find its' way into comedy?

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    SoberScott Posted 4 years 9 months ago
    No offense but this article shows why you were no good at writing comedy. I could see you writing something like House M.D. though. Anyway...

    So..I wanted to completely disagree with you. I can't because you make some good points. However i think the main point you are missing is that comedy is drama. It's not silly gags without meaning. Without the Riggs of the world there is no comedy. There is always some form of man vs self, man vs man, man vs circumstance in comedy. Conflict can not escape comedy. With characters like Riggs the comedy is greater in certain situations because the stress levels are so high.

    You could analyze comedies like Half Baked and say the same thing about all of those characters. Misguided trying to break from an addiction etc. When you get right down to it, they are a just a bunch of stoners and we find it funny because we know somebody like them and I am sure some of us are them.

    Well thats my piece at 6am...I actually registered for the site just to make this comment. So good article.
    Stickykeys09 Posted 4 years 10 months ago
    Ahem..going to be a little film snob and put my two cents in.

    I'm not one for comedies myself, I like the film to speak to me and move me. Sure, comedies are fun here and there but few are up there on my favorites or even good enough to buy, except Wayne's World of course. I'm more into dramas.

    However, in my opinion the best form of comedy is what you have described here. Films like Black (Dark) comedies, such as the Truman Show, Fargo, or even something for kids like Mouse Hunt.

    Satire falls into alot of films, such as Tarintino's films, or even the horror movie Scream. If they want to make me laugh, they shouldn't try so hard. Being able to make a blatant innuendo about semen every other line is over-doing it, but if they are subtle and use dead-pan humor it works.

    Good article.
    RetroRickster923 Posted 4 years 10 months ago
    Never thought of that...great artcle.
    rustyshackleford01 Posted 4 years 10 months ago
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    cybersix Posted 4 years 10 months ago
    This was an AMAZING article, certainly a lot different then I expected when I clicked on the link to check it out. The seriousness is certainly a lot different then the usual taste of Retrojunk articles.

    Like others have said, maybe take out mentions of your own suicidal thoughts, even if the article has a darker less peppy feel compared to the rest of the ones on the site. That really kinda threw it for a loop. Even if it offers a personal touch to your already awesome writing style, its not the kind of touch people really like.

    Keep up the detailed an thoughtful work.
    AndyP Posted 4 years 10 months ago
    Actually for every article I ever read about The Truman Show the author lists the movie as a drama not a comedy. So opinions must have changed since the movie came out. (I haven't seen it myself so I don't have an opinion.) Overall a good well written article.
    Caps 2.0 Posted 4 years 10 months ago
    Speaking of comedy/drama...Soon, I'll be in possession of a VHS copy of "The Last American Virgin". I had a copy many years ago, but I foolishly got rid of it due to the plotline. With the help of several YouTube clips, I feel that now enough time has passed that I can view it with a more mature eye.

    I find myself thinking of the comedy and drama masks. They're always seen together...That seems like an indication of how it all comes together. It's puzzling, but then again, isn't life altogether?
    Caps 2.0 Posted 4 years 10 months ago
    ^

    I understand what you're saying, but I'm fine with comedy/drama...I just tend to go more for the drama than the comedy. I'm aware that you need both in life, but the duology can be frightening anyway.

    I know that nobody can be happy all the time, just like no one can be sad all the time...This piece was just my take on how the two intermingle.
    thegreatcerebral Posted 4 years 10 months ago
    First off I would have to say that this article is well written but I agree with others that it does not have the "Retro Junk" feel so many have come to expect from this site.

    I would then like to respond by first quoting:

    "Many a true word is spoken in jest."

    I don't know who said that or where I got it from but it is one of the most "serious" statements out there. Take sarcasm for instance... the more you think about it 100% of sarcasm is in fact truth disguised as a "joke"

    The origin for anything artistically whether it be comedy, music, paintings etc. is emotion. So when I listen to Rodney Carrington's "Show them to me" or when he is talking about how his buddy had to eat a "pickled pig's foot" because he lost a bet, the comedy behind that is not hiding some suicidal thoughts. When Kat Williams is talking about "weed" he isn't thinking of killing himself. I do think that as someone pointed out earlier when referring to needing the "comedy" with the "drama" that you do need that in life. It's a give and take relationship. If you have 100% drama then you will be at whit's end and probably are thinking about checking out on life. That's why I think more comedic stuff is so popular right now because the economy is not doing all that great and we have a war going on etc. etc. etc. If you separate the two then you have a "suicidal" side and a "crazy ass whacked out" side, it is a balance of both that keep us in check.

    I personally use various things to cope with the world and "humor" is one of them. Other than that you have all sorts of things that can make things "seemingly" disappear. You can play video games (great for aggression), you can get a hobby, you can immerse yourself in a book etc. etc. etc. The world is at your fingertips with the internet now days so there is an almost infinite amount of things that can be done.

    Seriousness finds its way into comedy quite a lot. Those who can do it, often are the ones that are "on the edge" already (like Farley, Candy, Sam Kinison) and are generally some of the best out there. For instance whomever can make a joke (and a good one at that) out of Heath Ledger's death is someone who is on the edge.

    And here's my joke:
    The teacher asks the class "If there are 5 birds on that telephone line and I shoot one down how many are left?" She calls on Johnny and Johnny says "0 birds are left". The teacher says "how come?" Johnny says "well if you shoot one bird, he'll fall to the ground and the rest will fly away". She then says to him "that IS true but I was looking for 4, but I like the way you think."
    Johnny then raises his hand and asks the teacher "There's three women in an ice-cream parlor eating ice cream. Lady 1 is licking the cone normally. Lady 2 is biting the ice-cream off in chunks. Lady 3 is taking her time with the cone licking from bottom to top." He then asks "Which one of those ladies is married?" The teacher thinks for a second and then she says "lady 3". Johnny then says to her "nope, it's the one with the wedding ring on... but I like the way you think."

    BTW I've been visiting this site for a while now and I just created an account to comment on your article. First Post FTW!
    Caps 2.0 Posted 4 years 10 months ago
    ^

    Thanks for the advice. I can be a little too serious at times, I will admit, but serious writing is what I do best. I've tried doing comedy before, but I just don't have a regular sense of humor...At least I don't think so.

    Here's an example of a joke I find funny:

    A priest, a rabbi, a Buddhist monk, a Muslim cleric, 2 nuns, a boy, his dog, the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders, Barack Obama, John McCain, Chuck Norris, Hulk Hogan, Mr. T, Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan and Britney Spears are riding on a double-decker bus when a cop pulls them over.

    The cop says "You'll all have to step out of the vehicle".

    In unison, they ask "Why"?.

    The cop says "Because you've exceeded the character limit for a tasteless joke!".

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    I actually got that from somebody on another message board and modified it a little, but that's basically where my sense of humor is at. It isn't an everyday type of humor, and that's one of the reasons I don't think I'm that good at doing lighter-hearted material.

    My serious-minded material is what I get the most acclaimed for, though. Here are my Top 5 pieces as of today:

    -"My Life And My Father's Death"-Article Score: 46
    -"Some Of My Fave 80s Women"-Article Score: 29
    -"A Talk With Julie Brown"-Article Score: 24
    -"The Age Old Question"-Article Score: 14
    -"But Seriously"-Article Score (Right Now): 10

    All of these pieces are quite serious, and not coincidentally, are my highest-rated articles.

    Although this decade is a great one for me, I still have many issues I'm dealing with and it's very hard to do. I'm not that light-hearted about retro culture since, to me, it's something to hold on to when things are going insane on various levels.

    I understand what you're getting at, though, and you'll be interested to know that my next piece will (with any luck) be more light-hearted...At least I hope so.
    goblyn Posted 4 years 10 months ago
    Okay, #1, it might interest you to know that part of the reason there is so much drama in 48 Hrs is that it was originally concieved as a straight drama/action movie, but when they decided to cast Murphy in the role, they changed it around to make it a bit more funny, but the story remained very much in the drama/action vein.

    #2, I got the point of your article. You wrote it very well. You expressed yourself well, and you wrote about something very interesting, and here's where I'm going to give you the one critique I keep meaning to give you, but I keep forgetting to give you, you also manage to suck the fun right out of the article with your extreme seriousness. I understand that life is serious, but I think the whole idea behind retrojunk is to have fun with it all. Your articles always leave me feeling very down and depressed! I think you could really benefit from trying a little less heavy handed approach. For example, in this article, nobody needs to know that you've had suicidal thoughts. Just taking that out in itself makes the article much more fun.

    I'm not saying you need to be jokey jokey with everything, but I do think you need to make sure your next article isn't as gloomy. This one and your last one were really both depressing, and I personally don't feel like they fit in with the tone of retrojunk. I'm not trying to be hard just to be an asshole, I'm basically just wanting to see more from you, since you're a pretty good writer.

    So here's my advice in a nutshell: take a leaf out of these movies books and inject some humor into the misery and your articles will be that much deeper and complex than they are now.
    Caps 2.0 Posted 4 years 10 months ago
    ^

    I never said I didn't enjoy this entertainment, and I didn't say that darkness and cynicism is a bad thing. I enjoy all this stuff, but I'm the type of person who does analyze things on a personal level. I analyze these entertainments because I can connect to the material, and I want to explain why I do.

    It's just my own thing.
    cgimovieman Posted 4 years 10 months ago
    Okay, back the train up a bit here. Draw whatever conclusions you want, but I think you're overanalyzing these movies way too much. Just have fun with them and enjoy! It may just be my opinion, but movies should be a departure from your normal life. They should be fun! Which is not to say that you just totally shut your brain off when you go to a movie and don't think about them, but I don't understand how people can really enjoy things if all they do is pick them to death. With some of these too, a little darkness and cynicism isn't necessarily a bad thing. It can be a totally healthy thing too. Anyway, just relax.
    jupi73r Posted 4 years 10 months ago
    sorry that some of the "m's" were missing in my comment..the button on y keyboard is broke :(
    Pearl725 Posted 4 years 10 months ago
    Dramady is awesome! The first time I saw The Truman Show I was expecting pure comedy, and in the mood for it so I was put off by the drama factor. I gave it a second chance though and found I loved it!
    jupi73r Posted 4 years 10 months ago
    great article!..i guess you could say that all "clowns" are crying inside..comedy is just a means to an end for some comedians..wearing a plastic smile helps them cope.

    intresting you entioned 2 fils i have never viewed as comedies even though its purcieved as such..both the lethal weapons and the trueman show are examples of what some would class as "dramadies".
    Dzenan Posted 4 years 10 months ago
    Awesome article, and im glad to hear your getting better! Keep it up.
    pepsiru1es92 Posted 4 years 10 months ago
    Caps, You are an article master!
    Hoju Koolander Posted 4 years 10 months ago
    I definitely agree regarding the Lethal Weapon films. I just watched them for the first time recently and what I expected to be a silly buddy cop comedy was actually an exploration of Riggs and his inner demons. Which is not at all how my friends had explained it to me.

    I really believe that truly great comedy has to contain some element of drama and vice versa. You can't play all one emotion, the audience gets burned out, you have to have the ups and downs.

    I always use Tommy Boy as an example, it is a great mix of stupid physical/sarcastic humor and tragedy/redemption. You actually feel bad for Tommy when his Dad dies and when he's failing on the sales trip, which lets you breathe in between the jokes.

    Speaking of which, "The Chris Farley Show" is a great book that basically deals with this subject exactly. If you haven't read it, check it out-it will really give you a new view on Chris Farley as a human being, not just an comedic actor.
    JLAJRC2 Posted 4 years 10 months ago
    This was a very good article.
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