TV Sucks Now Articles

The articles on Retrojunk that annoy me the most.

Okay, I haven't been on this site for a full year, but let me tell you that I HAVE HAD ENOUGH of the "TV Sucks Now" articles. The saying "Cartoons Suck Now" was probably around since our grandparents, saying stuff like "I'm sick of Yogi Bear, I want Looney Tunes again." They probably didn't say that, but it's possible. But the articles don't always talk about TV, they can talk about video games, movies, or even life itself, which is why I usually call these kind of articles as "Life Sucks Now" articles, but that's not my point, my point is that we get a lot of these articles, like Disney Go Bye Bye, TV Sucks Now, Cartoon Network's Got Issues, The Best and Worst of times, The Elusive R - Rating, Times have Changed.....Too Much, Is Cartoon Network Rubbish, The Day Cartoon Network Died, Nickelodeon The Good Days, Cartoon Network Too, You Too Toon Disney, When Miracle Channels Go Bad, Toon Disney/Disney Bye Bye, Back in 19 Dickity-Two, Good Bad and Purple Dinos, and a lot more.

First, I'm going to talk about two members who I hate the most for making these kind of articles.

First, there was a member who was banned who wrote articles like "TV Sucks Now" and "Cartoon Network Too". Basically, his articles were either about Cartoon Network or Jetix, and uses no detail or anything, it just says "Jetix, get off Toon Disney" and that's it. This member was banned before I got his name.

Second, Copper20. Copper20's articles never did so good, but there was one article that was a success, "Cartoon Network's Got Issues", and the opening sentence pissed off me, Hiro, and Riddles-In-The-Middles.
Opening sentence: "Our generation was better, the new one sucks." Very misleading.
We're not all from the same generation Copper20, in fact, if you go to his profile, it says that he was born in 1992, and most of the people here were born in the 80s, I wasn't but I know most of you were. Next time think before you write. PS: That picture is one of Copper20's avatars.

Now I'm going to talk about Cartoon Network, Nickelodeon and Toon Disney seperately and say some things about them.

First, Toon Disney. Toon Disney has been criticized ever since Jetix came on. Sure, Jetix did basically ruin Toon Disney for the fact that it runs for 14 hours on the weekdays and 17 hours on the weekends (as of November 2007), and their only original shows that I like are "Yin Yang Yo" and "Super Robot Monkey Team Hyper Force Go", but it's not completely terrible. After all, it's the only station that decided to bring back "Superman: The Animated Series", "Batman: The Animated Series", and "Pinky and the Brain". Sure, none of them are related to Disney in any way, but I still respect them for bringing them back.

Taken from article "You Too Toon Disney":"I somehow doubt it, as if they were they'd be shoved in my face by now by Jetix fans.. Oh who am I kidding, Jetix fans don't exist." Not true.

Jetix fans DO exist, you just don't know anybody who likes it. Just so you know, me and my brother actually sometimes watch Jetix and we have no problem with it. I'm mad that it takes up the majority of Toon Disney, but I'm not saying it sucks.

Second, Cartoon Network. I must admit that it's whacko that Cartoon Network is airing live action, as well as having a live action series called "Out Of Jimmy's Head", which, IMO, is the worst CN show ever, but the network isn't completely terrible, they still have Ed Edd n Eddy, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy, Ben 10 and Fosters, heck, I would even call Camp Lazlo decent. I know that live action isn't right for Cartoon Network but I don't have to write an entire article about it saying that it sucks.
I should also mention Adult Swim. Adult Swim is a pretty good block, and a lot of people on this site only watch Cartoon Network for Adult Swim now, but has it ever ocurred to you that Adult Swim also has bad shows like Saul of the Mole Men? Yes, Adult Swim is good, but the "Other than Adult Swim, Cartoon Network is complete crap." comment pisses me off. In fact, one comment from an article shows on how much this guy hates Adult Swim.

Taken from a comment from the article "There's Nothing Good on TV": Adult Swim is not good under any circumstance. It's basically a black mark on Cartoon Network in my eyes. If you really want to be entertained with pervert humor, go to the adult store or something. Stay off a network that's way better suited for kids. Besides, do you not think kids still tune in on CN at night sometimes? Only to find sex, swearing, and perversion? Cartoon Network lost it's fun and eventually died in my eyes when they started airing perverted shows like Family Guy.

Last but not least, Nickelodeon. Nickelodeon is probably the most criticized of the networks, and I'm getting sick of it. All we hear is "Nickelodeon sucks" this, and "Nickelodeon sucks" that, we get the point, you don't have to keep reminding us. In fact, as of November 2007, an article saying that Nickelodeon sucks now has the highest rating on this site, but I think that there are other articles that are more deserving for the highest rating. I don't know when the biggest criticism for Nickelodeon started, maybe when they started Spongebob, or maybe when they started the Nicktoons, but what I do know is that it's annoying.

Now I would like to talk about Retrojunk itself. Lots of members on Retrojunk think that the 90s is pretty much the best decade ever (including me), but there are other members (i.e. Childofthe1970s and Ducktalesfan1977) who think otherwise. There's one answer to this: different generations. Every generation has different interests, that's what the Retrojunk member Hiro has been telling all of us, and making "TV Sucks Now"/"Life Sucks Now" articles don't get you anywhere. This comment made by Riddles-In-The-Middles in the article Cartoon Network's Got Issues actually has a good point. Here's the comment:

No! Your generations are NOT any better then today's! Your generations had the AIDS the epidemic and other dangerous pandemics, crack babies, the rise of popularity in cocaine and other illegal drugs, came very close to a nuclear war happening, and plenty other things I could list off. There was just as much 'crappy' cartoons back in your generations too! Stop thinking that your generations were all so perfect and dandy, because they weren't just like today's! Very good point.

People fail to realise that there were just as many bad shows in the 70s, 80s, and 90s as there are today, you can't just say "If it's old, it's awesome, and if it's new, it sucks.", because that's completely unfair. If this site was made in the 90s, the "TV Sucks Now" articles would say stuff like "I miss You Can't Do That On Television, now we have crap like Ren and Stimpy." or "I like the old Donald Duck cartoons, but now, Quack Pack? WTF?", and looking at members like Ducktalesfan1977, they'd probably say things like that. They would probably also say "The Simpsons doesn't belong here, it's not retro." since The Simpsons were very popular back then.

Also, 10 years from now, there would be a bunch of people on this site who grew up in the 2000s, saying stuff like "Disney, please bring back American Dragon: Jake Long." or "I miss Spongebob Squarepants, too bad Nick went down the drain." and the "TV Sucks Now" articles would say that they hate cartoons from the 2010s, which would still drive me crazy.

Also, for the banned Retrojunk member who I mentioned earlier, the one who rants about Cartoon Network and Jetix without any detail, I would like to say something to that guy.
YOU'RE DUMB,
YOUR FRIENDS ARE DUMB,
YOUR FAMILY'S DUMB,
YOUR STUPID PETS WILL BE SKINNED ALIVE,
YOUR MOM'S A MORON,
YOU SUCK AT LIFE,
THE WHOLE WORLD HATES YOU,
YOU'RE GOING TO HELL,
LIVE WITH IT.

Oh, and before anyone asks, yes, I took that from the Angry Video Game Nerd, just deal with it.


For the people who make the "TV Sucks Now"/"Life Sucks Now" articles, please don't write another article saying that cartoons suck, if you want to write a comment on a TV show saying that, that's okay, just don't write an article. The only "TV Sucks Now" article that I like is Dalmatianlover's "There's Nothing Good on TV", because the opening paragraph said this:

I'm sure there were plenty of people in their late teens or early 20's who hated the shows we loved to watch back in the 90's. Exactly.

This sentence was the reason why I gave the article a thumbs up, there were a lot of people in their late teens or early 20s who hated the shows that we loved in the 90s, and members like childofthe1970s and Ducktalesfan1977 make that a complete fact. That's what I'm talking about (and Hiro), we're all part of different generations, and we all don't like the same things.

This article might be sent to the back page since it was completely pointless, but I just wanted to release my rage for all of these "TV Sucks Now" articles. I have one more thing to say: These kids channels only suck because you outgrew them, and if you're 25 years old and don't have kids, then you have no reason to bash these shows, they're for 8 year old kids, not 20 year old nostalgia infested adults. Here's a good idea; turn off Nickelodeon, and go watch Seinfeld.
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Comments
    beyrsf Posted 1 year 6 months ago
    The reason why I think "tv sucks" for the since 2006 in regards to cartoons, is that the networks theirselves suck. Think about it, we had over 20 quality animation networks on cable and regular tv from 1990-2005, ranging from ABC Kids (schoolhouse rock era) to Toonami.....but those 20 QUALITY networks..............dwindled to just 2 in 2005 (that were still on top of their A game), which were Toonami and Adult Swim. Then that got worse in 2006 when Toonami started airing live action, UNDERPROMOTING J.L.U., using Sara, Peter Cullen, Absolution and gang less, focusing mostly on Pokemon, Yugioh, & Naruto instead of BALANCING the spotlight on all their shows, etc.

    Then Adult Swim started falling off when Adult Swim started airing more Family Guy etc., to where you had to stay up until 2 in the friggin' morning to watch most anime which is a SPIT IN THE FACE concidering the fact that Anime was what brought Adult Swim to the dance in the first place. That's what also brought Toon Disney down, bringing in non-original Toon Disney shows-----pushing Gargoyles and the gang to the EARLY a.m. slot.

    But I agree that you have to back up your comments especially if you're going to say "tv sucks", give a reason instead of sounding prejudice. Like in school when we're tought when giving class presentations, that even though we have A-list material, we still have to PRESENT THEM WELL to the multiple age audiences. Same thing for our beloved 90s-early 2000's networks. I get so annoyed when the excuse always pops out of people's mouths that "oh those shows still come on".....BULL CRAP! They still suck if you don't present them well, the difference of commercial quality between cartoon networks of the 90s/early 2000s and 2006-2011 should be quite OBVIOUS!

    I also can't stand the fact that we're being BRAINWASHED into believing that the only way to enjoy cartoons is to OVERUSE the convenience of watching shows on the internet. Even at it's most convenience, it's still not better than watching it on a QUALITY network!

    What do you all have to say about this?
    90dude Posted 2 years 5 months ago
    Yeah, to agree, even though I liked some of my favorite 90s shows as a kid. But as an adult, even though I still like them, they aren't as dandy as I remember them. (Like the corny mixture of American/Japanese footage from Power Rangers, the repetitive plot of Pokemon, and that 1995 Spider-Man TV show that has VERY little of something that does with the original Spider-Man comics.) What can we say? We can still love'em, but hey! They are not much as brilliant as we thought they are! (:
    90dude Posted 2 years 5 months ago
    Yeah, not only I grew up in the 90s, I grew up in the 2000s. And I like those 2000s shows like Yin Yang Yo!, Pucca, Codename: Kids Next Door, Naruto, The Fairly Oddparents, Drake and Josh, Kim Possible, Lilo and Stitch: The Series, etc.
    keerjeerclacko Posted 2 years 10 months ago
    Cartoons and TV in general today absoloutley, 100 percent SUCKS! I miss the 90's! One thing that did happen during the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s was a few cartoons of weird or experimental nature did get released. Now look at who the executives were in those companies at those times. Not hip young, up to date guys. These were cigar-chomping old guys who looked at the product that came and said, ‘I don’t know what it is. Oh well, make the cartoon, put it on and we’ll see what happens. We’ll see if it sells’ We were better off with those guys than we are now with the supposedly hip young executives who are making the decisions of what people SHOULD see and hear in the marketplace, with all the stuff cut out as well. The young guys are more conservative and more dangerous to the art form than the old guys with the cigars ever were. …Next thing you know [the hip young executive has] got his feet on the desk and he’s saying, ‘Well we can’t take a chance on this because that’s not what the kids really want and I know.’ And they got that attitude. And the day you get rid of that attitude and get back to ‘Who knows. Take a chance.’ That entrepreneurial spirit where even if you don’t like or understand what the cartoon is, the person who is in the executive chair may not be the final arbiter of taste of the entire population and world. And thats why tv sucks now. It doesn't appeal to anybody.
    jango52577 Posted 3 years 2 months ago
    Your mom sucks...J/K!

    Anyway, I agree with what most people say about no generation being better than any other. It all depends on your experience. I was born in 1985 so therefore I was a 90's kid. I would be more inclined to talk about 90's nostalgia than any other decade. That said, go watch your DVDs!!! And another thing, Adult Swim rules. I usually forget to watch new Family Guy episodes every week or I'm working on Sunday nights, so AS is a godsend for me. Robot Chicken is my favorite original show. I also love seeing King Of The Hill episodes.
    2090s Posted 3 years 7 months ago
    Best article I ever read here. Even surpassing the "My 90s childhood"-themed articles.
    King93 Posted 3 years 8 months ago
    Seriously the best article on Retrojunk 5 out of 5. I couldn't stand these tv sucks articles as I got here. Which is the reaosn why I talk about videogames you can't bash the old and the new.
    Trueblue94 Posted 3 years 8 months ago
    This article rocks like blueluigi's Youtube videos. I don't get why 20-some-year-olds would whine about fucking kids networks when those shows aren't even made for them. If you don't like it, don't watch it, watch your favorite old cartoons on Boomerang if you have it, buy DVDs, or look on the internet. Not all cartoons today suck, and not all cartoons of the past were 100% awesome. Every generation has flaws, but they also have points that shine, including this generation.
    CSI_Twee Posted 3 years 11 months ago
    I appreciate today's cartoons in that they have to appeal to a generation that is harder to please. Our generation grew up on TV, but today's kiddos are growing up on the Internet, where they can access a game on the Disney website faster than they could walk over to the TV to turn on a show. The standards are different now than they were 15 years ago and all the naysayers have failed to make note of it.
    blueluigi Posted 4 years 4 months ago
    Adrift923: I believe the reason why many of the classic shows aren't in as much reruns now as there was back then was because of the rise of DVD sets. There's many old shows being released nowadays and the older stuff doesn't get rerun as much because of that.
    Adrift923 Posted 4 years 7 months ago
    I think one big difference between the 80s/90s generation and those before us, is that most of the cartoons and tv shows from previous generations were in re-runs for decades. But the vast majority of kids shows from the 80s and early 90s were yanked from the air shortly after their initial run, and seem to have been eradicated from the face of the earth (or locked in a network vault somewhere). And hell, I even remember enjoying alot of old TV shows from the 50s-70s when I was a kid (and I still like alot of them), so I don't think kids today would totally crap on shows from our generation if they were still shown.

    So that's the one major reason you can't compare bitter 80s & 90s "kids" with those who came before us.

    Another problem is that cartoons and TV shows in general, have been dumbed down to the point of total mediocrity. For every somewhat dumb 90s show like Ren & Stimpy (which I admittedly liked), we had a somewhat smarter show like Doug (that's probably a bad example but I'm low on sleep...)
    mlw1984 Posted 5 years 3 months ago
    Notice there hasn't been any TV sucks now articles since November. I think you really did it.
    Narf Posted 5 years 4 months ago
    Encore, encore. Great article. All of these Life Sucks Now articles are pretty much the same thing: *kid's channel* sucks now. It was better in the nineties. Rantrantrantswearrantrant. People, the nineties were NOT the perfect decade. As much as I love the nineties, it had its flaws. The nineties had Britney Spears, the Backstreet Boys, N*SYNC, and a lot more. Every generation is flawed. Nothing's perfect. Deal with it.
    Retro4Everybody Posted 5 years 4 months ago
    Hey,I Think I Saw The Your'e Dumb Joke On An Angry Video Game Nerd Game Video.But Somehow I Forgot What It Was.
    Rhandey Posted 5 years 5 months ago
    I was born in '71. I loved the cartoons from the late 70's to the early 80's. But Had I been born in the 90's, I guess I would have loved those cartoons, too. I think we forget that what makes "our" cartoons special is not so much the cartoon itself; it was that we saw it with our youghfull minds at the time that we did. Of course it's hard for us to enjoy cartoons now; we are not of this generation. No one generation is any better or worse. Do you notice that no one writes articles saying my generation's toons are awefull? I wonder why that might be . . . I love that you all share so much of what you have enjoyed watching, and it's great to take a ride down memory lane.
    Frightwolf Posted 5 years 5 months ago
    As I commented on another article, some shows I watched back in the day just because they were on, like Timon and Pumbaa. When I watched an episode of it recently, I realized that it was actually pretty bad. But at the time, it was a cartoon that was on when I went to lay down on the couch, so I watched it.

    In some cases, some things have really gone down the drain. I can watch an episode of Rocko or Rugrats and still find it to be very interesting and funny; they have aged pretty well. I always found those All That and Kenan and Kel episodes to be a riot, as well. But I honestly now feel like the shows aren't as good and that they're deliberately geared toward young children. Before anyone points out the obvious, "Well, they ARE supposed to be geared toward young children," the reason why I like movies like Ratatouille or Lion King or shows like Rocko is because even though they're animated, they have appeal to an older age set. They're just great movies/shows, so as a young adult, I wouldn't feel embarrassed watching any of them.

    But some things have improved. I think Comedy Central is a lot better now than it was in the 90s. South Park episodes are funnier, Daily Show is far better than with the previous host, and Colbert Report is a supremely clever parody of conservative pundits like O'Reilly. Can't wait for the Writer's Strike to end so I can get new episodes of the latter two.

    All in all, people need to realize that some things will be better and some things worse than before. While some things have declined in quality, some have improved, and some things are simply not really as good as you remember them.
    mlw1984 Posted 5 years 5 months ago
    I would have to agree with this article. I only been a member on here for a few hours and I have already read several Nickelodeon/Cartoon Network sucks now articles. All of them are poorly written and just bashes the shows with little explanation on why the shows suck. First off, you all grew up, that's why the cartoons and kids shows of today don't appeal to anyone in our age groups. Second, as much as I don't like most of the shows on nowadays, we can't complain about it since we have no control over who runs the network. Complaining and whining all day isn't going to get you anywhere and either is making these articles. And finally, if you don't like the shows then don't watch them. If Boomerang get the rights to more old cartoons and became more widely available, then there would be less "Cartoons suck now" articles.

    You did a great job, Spongeroks.
    Hiro Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    I'm planning to write an article response to this.
    gustogummi Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    I'm personally sick of the TV sucks now articles too. Write about a show, movie or game you like instead of complaining about today's cartoons. It gets old after a while.
    ChokerZ99 Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    Being born in '84 and having cartoons all the way through the 90s and a couple years of this current decade, I feel like I have favorite cartoons/kids shows in various decades. Anyone that says toons in a certain decade are better than others I think is avoiding a dilemma. Some cartoons cradled 2 decades (ninja turtles, etc.) So which decade is it? I feel trapped in the argument because I liked a lot of the cartoons in the 80s AND the 90s. But honestly, just remembering a crap cartoon from back in the day that nobody watched doesn't make it a good show. What do I remember about _____? I remember changing the channel in hopes that Darkwing Duck was on. Other than that, you can remember it and talk about, but quit calling it awesome and better than shows today.

    A majority of this article is about the arguments that Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network, Disney channel critics constantly have about the current shows vs. older shows. Come on guys, Spongebob is huge. I remember the TMNT being huge too and my Aunt saying "I just don't get it." and my reply was always "They're awesome. You just don't know." It's the same with every generation, but then again, that's why they're called the "Glory Days". It's your youth and it will always be awesome and only understood by you. To agree somewhat with the writer in an offbeat way, guess what folks, a lot of the cartoons from the 80s/90s were remakes as well. Not in the total sense (new animation, new characters), but there sure were a lot of variations and updated cultural settings. The Jetsons. Flintstone Kids. A Pup Named Scooby Doo. Goof Troop (yes, a remake of an old character in a strange way). The reason why a lot these extreme 80s/90s cartoon fans (of which I am, just not the dissing kind) hate todays shows is because many of them are remakes of original cartoons in the 80s and 90s and it's offensive to watch childhood shows become updated again (Transformers, TMNT being the main ones redone a lot recently) Of course, how do you think Bugs Bunny fans liked Tiny Toons? Gotta put it all in perspective.

    Spongebob I think is a pretty good example of todays shows. Random stuff to an older person and perfect for kids who just like to sing stupid songs and laugh at silly jokes. Then again, that was the SAME STUFF I WATCHED! You think Spongbob is weird? Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles anyone? Love'em. Although, I wish I was in the room when they thought them up. Sounds like writers throwing darts at a wall full of hip/cool kid words and they stopped when it just got completely ridiculous. I mean, Splinter? Krang? Ooze? My dad still laughs at how serious people get about the show having paid hundreds of dollars on the silly toys. (which did kick butt. pizza-thrower anyone?)

    Nice article. I, sadly, have to completely agree with most of it. Not too big a fan of today's shows. Then again, I'm not 8 years old. If kids cartoons made sense to someone in their 20s, I'd start worrying.

    To end it, they should make a live-action Dino-Riders movie with the Jurassic Park technology. It'd be insane, insanely awesome to me and only me.
    scamrock Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    For me, a big part of cartoons is Saturday morning. I watch cartoons on Saturday morning with my kid. I like a lot of what is on. But I still feel like its not the same. It doesn't even have anything to do with me not being a kid anymore. Its not that I am partial to the shows of my generation. Well, I am, but that isn't what is wrong. There are far more channels now than when I was growing up. But it still feels like there is nothing on half the time.

    When I was a kid, cartoons started earlier and stayed on later. Don't get me wrong, I love me some Saved by the Bell. Even the crap that accompanied SBTB that was even cheesier. California Dreams, Hangtime, The Guys Next Door, etc. I loved watching it. But a seven year old probably could give a rats about Zack Morris and Screech. But the only reason that cut into cartoon time was a push for more "educational" programming because they thought too many cartoons were rotting our minds. Like watching a live action show is so much less harmful in comparision. Name Your Adventure was okay and all, but be honest, would you rather see that or another cartoon.

    I'd bet you money that if I turn on the tv right now, Spongebob is on somewhere. And I don't mind Spongebob or any of the other stuff on. But it all gets so over played. It just feels like there is a lack of variety, even with more channels.
    Spongeroks Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    Oh shut up Bigaint2.
    Ackman Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    GO SPONGROKS!
    bigaint2 Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    go fuck yourself that aracle you wrote sucked balls nickaloaden is shit carttonetwork is shit jetex is shit and your shit nickaloaden is the most critzed networks becasue all the shows suck even spongebob sucks its to overrated and if you dont like the TV sucks now aracles then GTFO of retrojunk you dickfucker fuck you you naked brothers band masterbater
    joecool85 Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    Well, I usually watch these channels when I was a kid.

    Since they stop airing the shows I watch, I find a lot better things to do in my life. Like, read a book, do some exercise, play basketball or go to the beach.etc Things that every normal human would do in their spare time.

    Sure, I don't like most of the shows we have now but you don't see me complaining about it all day! We need to get on with our lives for once.

    Oh and Spongeroks, you got a point on this article, it so annoying these days. BTW, I like to watch Seinfeld (I own the complete series already on DVD!).

    Hiro Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    I agree with you, cannibalholocaust77. I'm 4 years older than you and I'm also sick of it. Almost all of the cartoons from the 80s are pure garbage. They sucked back then, they suck today. They were nothing more than to sell toys. Same thing with the 70s stuff (except that it all sucks) and the 70s cartoons were watered down. Most people on here just bash the cartoons of today only because they are new. Enough already.

    I can write an article on how much TMNT (original), Transformers G1, The original He-Man, GI Joe (original), Thundercats and Voltron all suck but I won't because it would automatically get sent to the back page because of the 80s nostaglic crowd. Trust me, I know a bad cartoon when I see it and that means more than one episode.

    The best cartoons came out during the 30s-50s, now that's animation. TV cartoon wise, the 90s take it all. The cartoons of that era didn't talk down to kids like and wasn't cheesy unlike the 70s and 80s stuff.
    cannibalholocaust77 Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    I agree with your comments. I'm sick of people who are my age (I'm 30) complaining about cartoons today. First off Adult swim is one of the only redeming true animation on anymore with the exception of South Park. I hate that they like to talk about 80's cartoons as if they where actually properly animated and good. This is bullshit because those cartoons pissed me off as a kid because i liked stuff like tom and jerry and loony tunes ren and stimpy ,not the stuff that had poor animation aimed at trying to sell me another toy. Yes it does ultimately boil down to preference but I'm just sick and tired of people who obviously don't know anything about actual animation making retarded ass claims.
    Saradomin Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    Kudos to bamfingnightcrawler. Maybe I should take a class on TV, work is killing me right now.
    TV1985 Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    If you are tired of hearing these "TV Sucks Now" articles, well hate to say it, but, tough! There will always be an article that someone won't like. Well then don't read them.
    Vermis Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    Second comment on Retrojunk: nice one, Spongeroks. I particularly like your closing paragraph. My sentiments exactly. And a bit of a lol, since I'm 25 with no kids...

    But, as I'm a cartoon-obsessed geek, I guess that qualifies me to speak to the other cartoon-obsessed geeks here: you've turned into an _adult_. That's the problem. Deal with it, and act accordingly, please.

    I'd write a similar article, except it'd consist of one line, and it'd only need one:

    IT'S NOT THE CARTOONS, IT'S YOU.
    PyroPhoenixX Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    Wow so much hate into one article. But I guess your right, so many people write nothing but bs saying that "this network sucks' or "that show blows" you know the usual complaints. Its okay to say what you think, cause you like to share your opinion and back that up w/ facts, but complaining non stop and not backing up what you say, that would be a waste of my time. Other than that, the article was ok.
    ozma76 Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    Hey, everyone's comments concerning this article could be right. It's all a matter of personal preference. But then again, look at Mtv...they used to have music videos that accompanied their marketing bullshit. There's a few modern cartoons I can watch with my kids and enjoy but most seem to be half hour long commercials for pimping the latest line of Slutz dolls or whatever. But I do recall enjoying the hell out of
    those half hour long transforming robot/toaster oven commercials when i was a kid. It certainly wasn't the intellectual Shakesperean shit I enjoy now but...whatever.
    bamfingnightcrawler Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    Acutally more people feel this way about tv now. The 90s was considered the silver age of television and cartoons were considered the second golden age of animation and there is a reason for that: quality. Right now I'm taking a class that discusses tv. I'm in college right now, and one of things I often read about is how when I was younger, college students would watch the cartoons that were on, but I don't hear about that now.
    kekm Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    Your right with the fact that most ppl think that tv sucks because they grew out of it. Those ppl just hav to admit the fact that they actually hav to grow-up. I am not talking about everyone on this site or singling out, trust me I am one of those ppl who isn't ready 2 grow up. Hey at least I am actually realizing this and I am only fourteen.lol! I just can't stand most of the shows on almost every single network now that me and my friends grew up on. My Best Friends I were thinking that they should just create channels for all the shows they discontinued. What are we thinkn' though, not like they are gonna waste money to form another channel. If they actually do that it would probally be like Boomerang. Which is okay, but I think that Cartoon Network should hav another channel. I am just thinkn' maybe tv wouldn't suck as much if the channels had a bit more of a variety. Hey that is just my personal opinions.
    scrymusic Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    .......I don't think so...

    This article... has taken on a life of its own..LOL
    Spongeroks Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    Doiesn't anybody know what I'm talking about anymore?
    childofthe1970s Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    I gave this a thumbs down

    1. calling out people
    2. this would of been a better topic for the forums than an article
    3. if you don't like the "TV sucks now" articles, then don't read them

    if retrojunk was around in the 90s, I'm pretty sure there would of been a lot of TV sucks now articles. I'm pretty sure, the "TV sucks now" articles won't be stopped.
    volkstraum Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    I enjoyed shows like G.I. Joe, Ghostbusters, TMNT, the entire lineup on TGIF because I thought they were cool.

    What I was really getting was an education teaching me about morals, patriotism, dedication, hard work, self-sacrifice etc. And it was OK to see Bart Simpson cry 'eat my shorts!' because the episode ended with a lesson about how stealing is bad, or that pets are really part of the family, or how Christmas is more than just about materialism.

    I agknowledge these subtleties today, even though I didn't see it then, and I feel stronger as a person because of those hours I spent in front of the TV.


    Today's shows offer a dazzling array of explosions, imported waste that wouldn't be shown in its country of origin, raunchy humor and the hyper-sexualization of women beginning at around age 5. And its not subtle about it; it's more like getting your face bashed in with a baseball bat. Watching Spognebob offers a lesson in serving maggot burgers at a fast food place and tricking young girls into liking you.



    Spongeroks:
    Your inability to make a convincing argument without 'calling peeps out' or 'pwn-ing us foolz' proves that the entertainment you subscribe to is not very fulfilling. And it does nothign to build character. So I guess I didn't even need a rebuttal, the proof is already in your childishness.
    Chad1992 Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    Maybe if they haven't of canceled all of the great cartoons on Nickelodeon such as Rocko's Modern Life, Doug, Ren And Stimpy, and CatDog. Then maybe Nickelodeon wouldn't suck that bad.
    Celeste Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    I submitted a rebuttal article entitled "Why Should I Sit Through This?"
    It was very carefully worded so as not to offend anybody. So I hope I was good at not offending anybody and if I did offend anybody then I'm sorry.
    Celeste Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    Different strokes for different folks. I personally fail to see the appeal of Sponge Bob Square Pants myself. In fact I don't even want to know what the appeal is.
    jerbojones Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    why'd that guy get banned anyway?
    missingthe90s Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    You have a good point. The only cartoons that I watch and enjoy are The Simpsons and ocasionally Spongebob. Nickelodeon used to to be so good, but it cancled all the good shows (bring back SNICK!) and replaced it with pathectic ones.
    themangler Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    i think cartoons were way better in the 80's and 90's...Transformers, Voltron, He-Man, G.I. Joe, X-Men, Batman TAS, Superman TAS, Go-Bots, Ren & Stmpy, Beavus & Butthead, TMNT, Simpsons, Dungeons & Dragons, COPS, Ghostbusters, Hulk Hogan's Rock & Wrestling, i could go on and on...the only good thing now is Justice League Unlmited, Family Guy, and a few Adult Swim shows. I would even take the corny shows from the 70's and classics from the 40's-60's over most shows made after 2000....

    Just my opinion though!!!!
    ducktalesfan1977 Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    And keep in mind that the "cartoons suck now" theory isn't a new thing. It's been around for decades only in different words.
    scrymusic Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    I can honestly say that The Simpsons, Code Monkeys and South Park are the only three cartoons that appeal to me today.

    The Simpsons are there because.. well I grew up watching them since day one.. Including when they started on the Tracy Ulman show.

    South Park is simply because it is funny adult humor and it's brilliant comedy. Two reasons are..

    1 Be aware of todays news and pop culture
    2 If your an old fart like me, then you get most if not all of their jokes that relate to 70's and 80's Pop culture.

    Code Monkeys is just Nostalgic Games, mixed with gross humor, and a little history. I love it!
    retromaniac Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    I have to disagree with this article. I think it's pretty obvious that many cartoons these days have nowhere near the quality that they once did. The animation, for one thing...looks horrible in most shows. The characters in them look like they were all drawn by 8 year olds. Good examples are Fairly Odd Parents, Billy & Mandy, and that new show called Chowder. Also, most of these shows are all about silly cornball humor with goofy looking characters constantly spewing out fart and booger jokes. Yeah, not 100% of the newer shows are crap...but a good majority of them are. People can tell me I only look at newer cartoons this way because I didn't grow up with them all they want, but there are many older cartoons that I never watched when I was a kid, that I have recently started watching for the first time on DVD...and I can instantly tell they are much better then crap that's on nowadays.
    Dan5121 Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    I hate those articles b/c I am actually a cartoon fan. I watched the cartoons back in the day, I'm 20 and I still just watch cartoons. Yeah they're different, but they are still good. There and good and bad shows in every era. People who hate all cartoons today usually don't actually watch them, or their tastes have just changed.
    Spongeroks Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    Not every article has to have a lot of pictures, I still made a good point.
    ozma76 Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    I'm gonna have to say this article gave me a goddamn headache. Too many words. Let's have more pictures of things that suck or people sucking. Pictures of people being mad about things sucking. You put up some pictures of sucking and you got yourself a good article...
    Celeste Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    http://www.retrojunk.com/details_articles/1410/

    The only reason why I'm griping about the new is because networks have this talent for putting stuff on that they "think" that the older generations want to see.
    Well, I happen to be of the older generation, and I don't really want to see Sponge Bob Square Pants or Patrick the Starfish in the nude on a weekday afternoon. I especially don't want to see Sponge Bob No Pants in the designated "family viewing" slot.
    In fact there's a lot of shit shows on YTV that I don't really want to see.
    arianit Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    My favourite CartoonNetwork toon is Ben 10
    CheezNapkin Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    fucking THANK YOU.
    scrymusic Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    Listen..

    I was born in the Mid 70's and grew up through the 80's, and there are alot of people of my generation on here, and there are moments when I say this sucks or that sucks but when it is a 90's article or a 70's article from another memeber then I simply stae that Im a little too old or simply can't relate.

    Not everything new sucks! Hell! I wish we had some of this shit when I was growing up, but we didn't. We were in the age of technology and development. So we were simpler than today. I thought a walkman was hi tech, now it is the Ipod. I am not goning to say that the walkman was sooo much better and the Ipod sucks.

    Plus!!! I could care less about Cartoon Network, Disney, etc etc. I never cared or even watched them and for people to get upset or even try to get intellectual about this, is really funny to me.

    Decent article though.
    poohblet1 Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    Another poorly written article complaining about poorly written articles. Jeezus- you people who write this type of crap sound like a bunch old geezers bitching about 'how things were better back in my day.'Bleck! Thumbs down!
    evan2007 Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    i STILL love cartoon network, even if it has gone a bit down hill.
    funguy10 Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    Yes, Cartoon nework Adult Swim is just as much of a scar to Cartoon Network as G4TV's current schedule compared to its TechTV schedule: Permanent sefeation of the station's name. There ARE kids up late at night who want to watch cartoons so they turn on "Cartoon Network" and are exposed to a lot of sex, voilence, cussing, and jokes against religion. All the shows on Adult Swim SUCK altogether exept for Family Guy which to me is only an OK show because of the sex and jokes on God/Religion. There is also that show "Robot Chicken". It is a claymation program that runs for 15 minutes and is FAR worse than Family Guy. THAT FRIGGIN SHOW HAS MADE A MOCKERY OF TIMELESS CHARECTERS LIKE SESAME STREET AND MARIO! A show on the REAL Cartoon Network called "Goosebumps"(obviously based on the book series) is ENTIRELY LIVE ACTION! "Out of Jimmy's Head" at least has cartoon charecters in it. Why coud'nt they put Goosebumps on Disney or something? I would NOT pay them to air it on Nickelodeon.
    devin_b Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    This does seem like it would be more suited for the forum than the articles page yes. But it raises a good point. Does there really need to be so many articles on shows people dislike? Some are even mentioning the same shows and/or networks as each other. Anyone writing articles about that stuff really should do a little more research on previous articles before starting. I'm sure there's plenty of other shows that have yet to be mentioned. I'm not saying anyone's not entitled to express their opinions, it's just pointless to write about something that already has an article about it.

    Personal thought by the way, as far as Adult Swim goes, all their original shows are far worse than anything Cartoon Network has ever aired. Particularly Tim and Eric. The only one I'll ever watch is Aqua Teen Hunger Force, and only if I'm really, really bored. I mostly watch the imported shows like Futurama, Family Guy, and most of the animes.
    Fangarius Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    Actually, if you really want to get down to it. I've always loathed these [insert item] sucks topics--whether in an article or forum--especially when the writer sounds like a drunken Morton Downey Jr. (God, am I showing my age or what?) and doesn't support why he/she feels this way.

    Instead they just sit there and rant incessantly about why they dislike something, then start bashing others needlessly for supporting it.

    As WinnieThePujols best put it, we all end up being the 'senile' Grandperson when we start griping about the negative of 'today's generation' vs. our own. Because in truth, our gen wasn't exactly a bed of roses.

    Yes, today's animation is a combination of things, for a combination of people. Family Guy would've never had made it back then, but what these complainers don't realize, if it wasn't for shows like Wait Til Your Father Gets Home, The Barkleys, and Fat Albert, you probably wouldn't have it, the Simpsons, nor the Boondocks.

    Sure we may complain about the way things are, but as most have pointed out, we forget we originally inspired these shows in some form or fashion. They might have not been the same, but the style and meaning was there.

    In fact, for those who long for Looney Tunes, the funny thing is, they were never designed for kids. They were meant for adults to serve as fillers in movie theaters.

    But I digress, I do like the article because I've seen people gripe about Nickelodeon and CN without giving a solid reason for their distaste, and it makes them appear immature and irrelevant toward the purpose behind their article. Thus, why many despise the format RJ has lately become with some authors.

    And Knites, I do concur, I was under the impression the purpose behind RetroJunkies was honouring the Past, Present, and Future, rather than criticizing it. Because like most of you, I'd rather read about the quirky things we liked in the Past, over someone complaining about Nickelodeon airing the 130th Spongebob Special for the 70th time.

    But hey, that's just me.
    shiroihikari Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    Um...yeah, I think this was probably better suited to a forum topic, not an article. It's pretty inflammatory. I get sick of reading the same old shit too, but this is just going too far, in my opinion.
    mariofan1980 Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    people are entitled to their opinions.
    Knites Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    Well.... Quite a rant. (Fortunately?) your lack of tact does not obscure your point. The thing we need to remember is TV is always changing--usually by a bunch of grown-up overly concerned about money who have a vague or no idea what kids or toon watching adults want to see.

    Anyway, when all is said and done, Retrojunk articles should be less about what "sucks" and more about why we remember something fondly.

    Celeste Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    This looks like a job for me
    so everyone just follow me
    cause we need a little contreversy
    cause it feels so empty without me

    Yeah! :) I would like to think that if you create chaos you get chaos thrown right back in your face.
    arkitect Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    everyone loves controversy

    some people just cant sit down and JUST watch the shows they enjoy. for some reason they seem to know more ABOUT the shows they really dislike, then go into an unnecessary issue.

    arkitect
    rowemedic Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    i am already tired of the i hate people who hate articles. YAWN! i am sure you changed everything.

    none the less i agree with you.
    gustogummi Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    I think Retro Junk would be a much better place if

    1. Stop whining about how much today's cartoons suck. Don't like, don't watch.
    2. Stop making articles about how much the new generation sucks.
    3. Stop making Nickelodeon/CN sucks now threads. Stop whining how much they suck now. We get the point already.
    4. Ban people like Copper20, the dude obviously don't know what he's talking about or make any sense. We all aren't in the same generation, you moron.
    HarryReems Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    I think the "I HAVE HAD ENOUGH of the "TV Sucks Now" articles" are almost as annoying as the "TV Sucks Now" articles.
    juanillo33 Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    true dat
    keneniah6 Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    I agree. As the old saying goes, there are two ways to have the tallest building in town. Build it yourself, or tear all the others down. If you want better story contents in cartoons, make your own! Post them on You Tube or Google Videos etc... and see what you get for comments. Flame On!
    taciturnwes Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    Not a great article by any means but I see your point, it does get tiresome of the constant stream of articles where the writer takes on the persona of the proverbial old guy in a rocker bitching about how much better things were back then. Sure Cartoon Network may not show many shows from my childhood, but they do have shows like Robot Chicken which is nothing short of brillant in the nostalgia department.
    Spongeroks Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    Thanks for your responses everybody.

    I was worried that this would be sent to the back page and I'd put all that writing to waste.

    Thankfully, it didn't.
    Lucedo Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    I believe that corporate greed ruined these channels.

    When it comes to Cartoon Network today, except for Adult Swim, the channel is pretty bad.
    kellylmt Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    i like bacon sandwiches.
    HarryReems Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    Nickelodeon sucks
    sidran32 Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    Quite an entertaining and poignant rant. I agree, people need to lay off on the x sucks now stuff. I have a clue for you guys: The things you had when you were a kid were better because you were a kid at the time. When you are young, things are by default more awesome. I guarantee you if you found an episode of some show you have distant fond memories of and rewatched it, it probably wouldn't live up to expectations (except Pete & Pete, though. My friends rented the DVD and it was still awesome :P).
    Forgotten sin Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    he actually posted in the comments asking if people like Jetix. well, the stuff woulden't be on the channel if there weren't fans. you're not, so live with it, and move on sir.


    Excellent article. these "I Hate this generation" articles are an epidemic that should be done away with.

    Celeste Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    I wouldn't be surprised if Copper20 came back under a different name because you bashed him Spongerok.
    Chronobrain Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    Better suited for the forums. Articles are better suited for media, which is why people talk about the rise and fall of their generations. This place is a time capsule, and every article contributes something from someone else's point of view. The poorly-written, poorly-thought out articles are nixed before anyone can say "Who cares?" So this leaves the articles with actual insight to what the remembered seeing as they grew up. By making this article, you're actually worse than what you're complaining about. At least the other articles provide valid statements. There are reasons for their dismay. We've all let go of our childhoods, but that doesn't mean we enjoy seeing what's happened. So yeah, this article fails at life. Keep your opinions of the site to the forums.
    millerman1983 Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    I usually take the sedated, passive route when it comes to articles such as this but I'll try and voice my opinion this time. I see the argument you're making, and although it was written poorly, you make a valid point. I'm open to each generations' cartoons, but of course I reserve a choice years as my favorite. The article could have been shorter, but nevertheless you wrote what you felt, and that's most important. Let's hope after this, there are no more "TV Sucks Now" articles. Thanks Spongeroks. Keep being heard.
    agentkev Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    ARTICLES SUCK NOW!!!!!!!
    Celeste Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    And for the record spongerok I was born in 1976 buddy which makes me 31. :)
    Celeste Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    When I did my "Old Skool YTV" article the reason why I asked "why would anyone put this on in the family viewing time slot?" is because from 5:00 PM onwards is usually designated as "the family viewing" time slot and Sponge Bob Square Pants is hardly appropriate for "family viewing."
    zrtro Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    I agree with you. But you didn't mention Nickelodeon series Avatar: The Last Airbender. Those that that Gargoyles was a great cartoon show (which is was), if they had an open mind, would see Avatar is a great show, it tells a story, and it is a very deep show, that you have to think as you watch.
    WinnieThePujols Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    The bad: calling people out. You should just leave these people as anonymous.

    The good: a lot. You make excellent points. Its natural that people would be biased towards their own eras, but it's not OK to be a bigot about it (which a lot of people on this site are).

    Yeah, maybe you think programming sucks now. Well what the hell do you expect? You are in your late teens / 20's / 30's now. The shows you're watching now are designed for people that are only a fraction of your age.

    Now someone will try and dispute this by saying, "you say that I don't like shows now because they're not designed for me. Well then Hot Shot, explain to me why I can -- as an adult -- watch old shows from the past and enjoy them, even though those, too, were designed for children?" Simple, guys: you're biased. Whether you're aware of it or not, a big part of the reason you like re-watching these is because there's nostalgic and personal sentiment attached to it!

    There's the classic cliche of a Grandpa looking back in retrospect, talking about the "good old days." The cliche is usually meant to be offensive, as if pops if over the hill. Well guess what? The hunter has now become the hunted. If you bash the current generation, you're now playing the role of the senile, incoherent Grandpa.
    Fangarius Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    Exactly. Think the problem is, when we're young, we tend to forget how bad our era really was. The truth is, no time period is perfect.

    Think about it, I recently watched the first season of the SuperFriends and never realized, compared with today's Justice League, the show was really watered down.

    Seriously, because though the JLA SuperFriends did use their powers for getting out of jams, they never attacked the villains, and apparently they were either talked out of their plans, or giving themselves up.

    Try doing that with The Batman, and see how long the show would've lasted today. Which brings me up to another point: there ARE good shows out there today. Regrettably, we've become so jaded and hypercritical, we tend to overlook them because we prefer what yesteryear had to offer.

    But the dilemma here is, we actually go by OUR memory than the real deal. Case in point, I recall liking a show known as "Mission: MAGIC," thus when Entertainment Rights brought the series out on DVD, I bought it.

    After watching it, I thought, "Man, we 70 kids were really HARD up for entertainment!" Not that the show was bad, but it wasn't exactly what our minds envisioned.

    As for people bashing Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon, the truth is they changed, and many people get uncomfortable with change. Also I guess what bugs me was originally though aimed at the kids to young adult set (8-18), Nick's programming didn't pander to the lowest common denominator, and I feel that's what's really gotten into everyone's craw.

    Though I, myself, do like Fairly Oddparents, I still miss the original Ren & Stimpy and Count Duckula from time to time, but I don't really bash the network because that's what they presume their target audience's want.

    In fact, there is hope, because I've been intrigued with Nicktoons new addition "Edgar & Ellen" which is based on classic children's book and kind of reminds me of a Next Gen 'Beetlejuice/Addams Family' show.

    As for CN, well, I feel they're just going through some experimentation stage all networks go through. I do agree though, "Re-Animated" and "Out of Jimmy's Head's" no "Roger Rabbit," but I do notice they try balancing out stuff with modern and classic programming from time to time.

    Boomerang still shows the classic gems of Cartoon Television. Including shows you never thought existed in the Hanna-Barbera vault.

    Apologies for droning on like Edith Bunker here, but I do agree, rather than waste article time on griping and whining about the shortcomings of an era--whether it's back then, or the present--one should compose articles about what they loved about a certain era than criticize about things beyond their control.

    But that's just me.
    JLAJRC2 Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    I am also tired of these types of articles. Write about something you like/love instead instead of another angry, boring rant. Makes sense to me.
    bamfingnightcrawler Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    I like Jetix since they have shown a lot of the good cartoons that I would watch. The other version of articles that I'm really don't enjoy are top 10s.
    NickelodeonFan97 Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    I noticed you bashed a lot of users in this article. Even if people do say a lot of dumb shit, bashing them is never cool or good.

    Nonetheless, good article....
    Sunni Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    In response to this article, I think the reason why there are so many posts about old TV is that the shows that actually are aimed for us either aren't very entertaining or they aren't on often enough. I know that doesn't justify people saying new shows suck without a reason. I'm just saying that with the exception of the adult swim block and similar lineups, there are not nearly as many shows that actually do cater to our interests as in the past. As frustrating as it is for you to see all the Tv sucks now articles, just please try and remember that it is just as frustrating for us when there is almost nothing good on anymore.
    And just for the record: No I have not written a TV sucks now article and I'm not a big fan of all those New York sitcoms like Seinfeld and Friends because there's too many of them out there and after awhile they all start looking the same to me. Please don't tell other people what to watch if you are going to complain about others who (by writing those articles), do the same to you.
    FilmationGirl Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    I'm glad there was someone to have a fresher say on all the "[insert here] Sucks" articles. Criticism is one thing, but out right whining and moaning only gets you so far. One the one hand, like anything else in life, you will have your good and your bad. Some would say "we had it better", while others will say they do now; who might also when they're older and looking back might not know what they we're thinking , but it doesn't mean bad overcame the good and visa versa. Overall, once again, how we view things are all in perspective, nothing is all in black and white, and that things in history can be muddled if only one voice is heard and early one.
    Caps 2.0 Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    I think Mike + The Mechanics said it all back in the 80s:

    Every generation
    Blames the one before
    And all of their frustrations
    Come beating on your door

    I know that I'm a prisoner
    To all my father held so dear
    I know that I'm a hostage
    To all his hopes and fears
    I just wish I could have told him in the living years

    Crumpled bits of paper
    Filled with imperfect thought
    Stilted conversations
    I'm afraid thats all we've got

    You say you just don't see it
    He says its perfect sense
    You just cant get agreement
    In this present tense
    We all talk a different language
    Talking in defense

    Say it loud, say it clear
    You can listen as well as you hear
    Its too late when we die
    To admit we don't see eye to eye

    So we open up a quarrel
    Between the present and the past
    We only sacrifice the future
    Its the bitterness that lasts

    So don't yield to the fortunes
    You sometimes see as fate
    It may have a new perspective
    On a different day
    And if you don't give up, and don't give in
    You may just be o.k.

    Say it loud, say it clear
    You can listen as well as you hear
    Its too late when we die
    To admit we don't see eye to eye

    I wasn't there that morning
    When my father passed away
    I didn't get to tell him
    All the things I had to say

    I think I caught his spirit
    Later that same year
    I'm sure I heard his echo
    In my baby's new born tears
    I just wish I could have told him in the living years

    Say it loud, say it clear
    You can listen as well as you hear
    Its too late when we die
    To admit we don't see eye to eye
    Copper20 Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    Do people actually like jetix?
    ethandaman24 Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    i'm gonna make a video that's similar to what Spongerocks is talking about.
    pikatob Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    i know you wanted it to be the AVGN tihng withoug the F word but its really like

    You're dead
    Your friends are dead
    Your family's dead
    Your ****ing pets are being skinned alie
    your moms a ****ing wh***
    you suck at life
    the whole world hates you
    you're going to hell
    live with it
    game over
    Spongeroks Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    Nostalgiacjester, I completely apologize, I thought that you were saying that horror movies aren't good anymore, and the comments made it feel more like it was one of these kind of articles.
    RetroToon Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    Well said, Spongeroks.

    While the nostalgic part of me loves the 90's and knows knows very well how things are today I'm usually never the type to just "hate" things. There were some shows that I didn't really care for or today there are a lot of cartoons that look like cheap junk from the start, but most cartoons that I've watched interested to me in some way or another. And even though I know there were far better cartoons in the 90's than Spongebob, Fairly Oddparents or Invader ZIM, some of those modern CN and Nick shows were like the last decent bits of entertainment for me, more so than any other stuff. And I'm sorry if I sound defensive about it sometimes. I guess part of me is caught up with the present but is also in the past as well.

    As for all the "TV today sucks" articles, I don't blame people for wanting to say that but it would be nice if more people wrote about how great things used to be and not just remind everyone about today. People really need to escape from that a bit.
    mrbumpy Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    Mr.BumpyYour article is completly wrong,Spongeroks.
    Squishy:You stink.More than Bumpy.
    Mr.Bumpy:¡Hey!
    Squishy:Sorry,Mr.Bumpy,I(...)
    Mr.Bumpy:That`s okey,Squishman.
    NLogan Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    "Back in my day":
    kid, "That's totally wicked!"
    Teenager "Nowhere near as cool as the stuff we had"
    Parent "You never even had to lock the doors in my neighborhood and there were no child molesters or kidnappers, we trick or treated until the sun came up"
    Alternate version parent "I had to walk uphill both ways in the snow and work for my supper, you whipper-snappers don't know what hard work is.
    Grandparent, "This television business is trash in my day we had good ole radio programs, now that's entertainment."

    Each generation blames the one before or idolizes their own, and rightfully so. Each generation has the keys to happiness for each person in it. Pulls wool over own eyes to delude self that the 80's were where it was at.
    MrCleveland Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    The "TV Sucks Now" will never be unavoided. But It's something about TV that gives someone money and ratings and for the ones who want nostalgia, they get jack.
    ducktalesfan1977 Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    I will admit, I had enough of the why (insert name of kid's network here) sucks now. We get the clue. If RJ was around in the 1990s, I'd probably would of have wrote a "Why TV sucks now" article or two. But I haven't and I won't. Copper20 never knows what he's talking about we all aren't in the same generation. That's why I don't write articles for this site anymore.

    I'm not talking to anymore in particular, but when I read the comments on here and I express my own opinion, I get bashed for it. I mean, come on, we all grew up with different things but people will bash me for my opinion when I said I don't like 1990s Nickelodeon or what not. If you don't like my opinion, don't read my damn comment. Move on.

    This is a good article though, I bet you there will be more "TV sucks now" articles in the future but all we have to do is not read them and rate them low.
    NostalgicJester Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    Hey Spongeroks. I agree with this article almost 100%. There is nothing I hate more than reading an article about how someone hates a network that no longer caters to thier age bracket. Kids now a days like watching whatever is on Nick and CN and it is made for them, not for 20-30 somethings that still watch kid networks. I'm with you I am tired of adults complaining about something that isn't even made for them.

    Now I will tell you why I don't completely agree with you. I am not coming down on you I just don't want one of my articles grouped in with these articles. I wrote The Elusive R-rating. I assume that since you mentioned it that you read it but let me just say this:

    It is not about how movies suck now or how the movies I grew up with are better. I was only saying that the rating system now is so screwed up that it is very misleading. I was upset before Live Free or Die Hard came out because I was afraid that it's PG-13 rating would kill everything that makes Die Hard what it is. Like most of the PG-13 horror movies and so on now are different because the gritty R-rated stuff is removed to expand the audience. However I am not saying that the movies themselves suck because of this just the audience. In fact, I freakin' loved Live Free or Die Hard.

    This is a long comment and I'm sorry. If you haven't read the article please do. If you still feel it is a "Life Sucks Now Article" than I applogize. I hate those articles and I would hate myself if I wrote one. Please don't make me hate myself.

    Seriously, I really did like your article.
    Jason43 Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    Ha. Great article. People do have some prescription strength rose colored glasses when comparing the 80's/90's shows to todays. There is alot of garbage on tv now, but certainly no more than there was 20 years ago.
    oldnickfan Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    Good one! I've read several of your articles and I think this is the best one. And well written. As a 90s kid...Copper20's comment totally screwed up my day. I mean, come on.

    But that's beside the point... I totally agree. Thumbs up!
    dalmatianlover Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    Nice job, Spongey. You really went out of your way to make this article.

    I do agree with most of what you said. These "TV Sucks Now" articles are getting out of hand. I do agree with those people on what Toon Disney and Cartoon Network are like, (I don't care about Nickelodeon anymore) but they didn't go into enough detail or provide valid criticism. That's what I did in my "There's Nothing Good On TV" article, and that's probably why it got such a high rating.

    I also agree, this article may get sent to the back page too like my "Special Article Review" article, but I'm giving you a thumbs up anyway for the passion. I'm working on a response to this article, but it won't be up for a while. Keep in touch.
    Caps 2.0 Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    While it is a little harsh, I've been waiting for someone to say something like this for a long time.

    I'm a hardcore 80s fan and it will always be my favorite decade, but I enjoy TV, movies and music of nowadays as well. TV is just great with me. I dig VH1's "Celebreality" programs and I enjoy "TNA Impact!" when I watch it. There are good shows on cable...Hell, I'll even watch the Disney Channel on occasion. I'm perfectly cool with today's TV, and the "TV sucks now" articles annoy me as well.
    Hiro Posted 5 years 6 months ago
    This is a great article in my opinion. I'm personally sick of the TV sucks now articles too. Obviously, people only bash the TV shows of today because they seem to hate new things and they don't even explain why the cartoons/TV shows of today suck, other than the fact that they suck. There were just as many bad shows back then as there are now.

    Your article does have great points to it. I hope it doesn't get sent to the back page.
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